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alp227

(32,004 posts)
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 04:42 AM Mar 2014

Santorum: GOP loses when it picks moderates

Source: AP

OXON HILL, Md. (AP) — Former Sen. Rick Santorum says Republicans lose elections when they nominate moderates.

Santorum ran for president in 2012 as a social conservative and is weighing another bid. He said Friday the GOP should not sacrifice conservatism in an effort to expand the party's appeal.

The former senator says John McCain and Mitt Romney were moderate nominees who still lost.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/santorum-gop-loses-when-it-picks-moderates



Politico goes in depth about Santorum's CPAC speech.
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Santorum: GOP loses when it picks moderates (Original Post) alp227 Mar 2014 OP
Slight correction for more truthful accuracy: truthisfreedom Mar 2014 #1
Keep choosing unelectable wingnuts, asshole. The GOP will go the way of the Whigs! Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #2
Let's hope yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #27
Whigs, Federalists, Republicans, ... StoneCarver Mar 2014 #28
So the perfect GOP candidate is one who will condemn women, gays, blacks, immigrants, the poor TeamPooka Mar 2014 #3
Of course the GOP loses when it turns to moderates: They have to go outside the party to find one... Journeyman Mar 2014 #4
Ding ding ding! truebluegreen Mar 2014 #26
Sure hope they listen to him. JohnnyRingo Mar 2014 #5
Santorum is a sick person, as his his party. If this were hundreds of years ago, they would be the lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #6
When they elect moderates, people like him lose.... Uben Mar 2014 #7
There are very few moderates in the GOP anymore davidpdx Mar 2014 #8
weighing another bid? Helen Borg Mar 2014 #9
Yeppers, the way to win is to nominate right-wing ideologues. Proven strategy. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #10
So, McCain and Romney were too moderate William Seger Mar 2014 #11
In reality, DLC Democrats are as far right as most swing voters are willing to go yurbud Mar 2014 #22
They still believe their Silent Majority bullshit NickB79 Mar 2014 #35
"Weighing another bid"?What an ego! He'll be campaigning from his coffin! Divernan Mar 2014 #12
Reminds me of Harold Stassen. calimary Mar 2014 #32
When a bunch of losers pick a loser to represent them, what do you expect to happen? SkatmanRoth Mar 2014 #13
How does that really work out for the Republicans, Ricky? Jack Rabbit Mar 2014 #14
But how will he engage blah people? What is his strategy for getting blah votes? hatrack Mar 2014 #15
And Rick Santorum is an expert at losing... brooklynite Mar 2014 #16
Yes, PLEASE run extreme candidates, GOP! SunSeeker Mar 2014 #17
No, they lose because they are lying assholes and nobody (except Texans) are buying their bullshit. olddad56 Mar 2014 #18
As if the scourge of extremist Republicans is limited to one state. Paladin Mar 2014 #19
they can't hang on to their base of old angry white men AND attract anyone else yurbud Mar 2014 #20
What would you expect an extremist (Santorum) to say?? WhoWoodaKnew Mar 2014 #21
"the GOP should not sacrifice conservatism in an effort to expand the party's appeal" underpants Mar 2014 #23
It never occurs to them that their "conservative values" are the problem Skidmore Mar 2014 #24
YAY!!! angrychair Mar 2014 #25
Irrational. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #29
Who? TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #30
Consider where he was when he said that jmowreader Mar 2014 #31
No rick, you all lose when your moderates try to embrace the massive number of nutjobs in your party cstanleytech Mar 2014 #33
Hey Santorum, When did a righty ever win? Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #34

truthisfreedom

(23,138 posts)
1. Slight correction for more truthful accuracy:
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 04:50 AM
Mar 2014

"He said Friday the GOP should not sacrifice extremism in an effort to expand the party's appeal."

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
27. Let's hope
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 05:55 PM
Mar 2014

November 2014 will be very telling. This could be the end forever for the Republicans or it could be a renewal. Let's hope for the end.

 

StoneCarver

(249 posts)
28. Whigs, Federalists, Republicans, ...
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 06:48 PM
Mar 2014

It's the left wing order of things. Society always marches to the left -eventually! But it's not linear and the road is hard. Who will replace the Democrats or progressives? Green Party, Independence Party? Who know, But the republicans are finished and the democrats are the new right. Mark it!

TeamPooka

(24,204 posts)
3. So the perfect GOP candidate is one who will condemn women, gays, blacks, immigrants, the poor
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 05:26 AM
Mar 2014

and still get the majority of the country to vote for them.
hahahahahahahahahaha

Journeyman

(15,023 posts)
4. Of course the GOP loses when it turns to moderates: They have to go outside the party to find one...
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 05:29 AM
Mar 2014

All snark aside, whenever the Republicans lose an election or their office holders are turned out, they always explain that it was because the candidate/politician was "insufficiently conservative."

Criminy, they dumped on George W. as being deficient after he left office -- not deficient as a human (which he most definitely was) but deficient in his conservative bonafides.

Ever the same with these slime balls: they won't own up to their own self-responsibility (much as they claim its a core of their beliefs) and always denigrate their losers and their disappointments as being insufficient ideologues, as though can reset the clock by denying their core.

JohnnyRingo

(18,614 posts)
5. Sure hope they listen to him.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 05:52 AM
Mar 2014

Throw Herman Cain in as Veep and they'll have a winning ticket.

hahahahahahahahahaha

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
6. Santorum is a sick person, as his his party. If this were hundreds of years ago, they would be the
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 06:28 AM
Mar 2014

first in line to burn people at the stakes. There time has come and gone, and they are essentially obsolete

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
9. weighing another bid?
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 07:04 AM
Mar 2014

That's the fun part. To see somebody like Santorum keep banging his head against reality.

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
11. So, McCain and Romney were too moderate
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:33 AM
Mar 2014

... so more people decided to vote for Obama instead? What a fucking idiot.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
22. In reality, DLC Democrats are as far right as most swing voters are willing to go
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 03:00 PM
Mar 2014

When the last people who remember Jim Crow fondly die, the GOP will no longer be a viable second party, and the Democrats will either become the equivalent of the PRI in Mexico, or split into a progressive New Deal party and a corporate party without the GOP nuts.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
35. They still believe their Silent Majority bullshit
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 12:56 AM
Mar 2014

Somewhere in America, hidden from all the polls and surveys, there are tens of millions of white, middle-class Teabag patriots just waiting for the day they can finally cast their votes for a REAL American conservative candidate.

All they have to do is run a candidate so batshit crazy it will bring them out of the spiderholes and doomsday bunkers they've been living in since Clinton won office, like a wave of rats emerging from a sewer grate overflowing with shit and piss.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
12. "Weighing another bid"?What an ego! He'll be campaigning from his coffin!
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 09:40 AM
Mar 2014

The man's ambition is completely out of control and out of touch with reality.

calimary

(81,085 posts)
32. Reminds me of Harold Stassen.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:20 PM
Mar 2014

Perennial candidate for public office - ran many times including at least twice for President. Lost pretty much every race except a couple of terms as governor of Minnesota. He became a running joke - always the political bridesmaid. I remember reading that in Mad magazine of all places - where some cartoon character's line was - "…sure, just like I believe Harold Stassen will be president some day." And funny enough, he too was a GOPer.

http://www.archives.upenn.edu/people/1900s/stassen_harold_edward.html

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
13. When a bunch of losers pick a loser to represent them, what do you expect to happen?
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 09:47 AM
Mar 2014

When every player on the bench is stupid, there is no way to put a 'smart' one up for consideration.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
14. How does that really work out for the Republicans, Ricky?
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 12:35 PM
Mar 2014

Let's ask Senator Sharon Angle and Senator Christine O'Donnell about it.

hatrack

(59,570 posts)
15. But how will he engage blah people? What is his strategy for getting blah votes?
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 12:39 PM
Mar 2014

Judging the the minority outreach crowd at CPAC, this is something they're really working hard on!

?w=230

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
19. As if the scourge of extremist Republicans is limited to one state.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 01:55 PM
Mar 2014

Be happy in your hatred. This Texas Democrat could give a shit.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
20. they can't hang on to their base of old angry white men AND attract anyone else
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 02:35 PM
Mar 2014

the minute they reach out to minorities, those who remember the Jim Crow era fondly howl like stuck pigs.

On some issues, the right's outrage is manufactured by right wing media, but the racism is real and visceral for a large chunk of their base, and doesn't need to be fanned into a flame--it's always burning.

underpants

(182,588 posts)
23. "the GOP should not sacrifice conservatism in an effort to expand the party's appeal"
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 04:47 PM
Mar 2014

You know that the NUMBER of votes is what counts in each state, right?

angrychair

(8,677 posts)
25. YAY!!!
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 05:25 PM
Mar 2014

Three cheers for Santorum!!!! I see a Santorum/Cruz or Cruz/Santorum run in our furture. Please! That would be so great!!!




For us....

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
31. Consider where he was when he said that
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 10:52 PM
Mar 2014

CPAC is not the place to find squishy-soft people; they probably pull Ted Nugent over when he shows up and ask him, "are you sure you're really a conservative? You DO make your living playing hippie music..."

I would really like to see Rick Santorum and Rand Paul on the GOP ticket. It would be the easiest 450-vote Democratic victory in the history of the Republic.

cstanleytech

(26,224 posts)
33. No rick, you all lose when your moderates try to embrace the massive number of nutjobs in your party
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:26 PM
Mar 2014

in order to secure the nomination.

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