Student shot dead in Valencia, north Venezuela

[ChangoLoa]

Source: El Universal

Jesús Enrique Acosta, an engineering student at the University of Carabobo, was shot in the head and killed in La Isabelica, Valencia, the capital of Carabobo state, north Venezuela.

Jesús Enrique Acosta and his cousin, Luis Acosta, were warned that a group of armed motorcyclists were approaching the place where they were. When both started to run away, Jesús Enrique Acosta fell to the ground, after being shot in the head. He died while rushed to hospital, said Luis Acosta, as quoted by daily newspaper Notitarde.

Read more: http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/140312/student-shot-dead-in-valencia-north-venezuela

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One more kill for Maduro's paramilitary groups.

[ChangoLoa]

1. Here's Maduro calling the irregular paramilitary groups to act against the protesters on March 5

During the daily national mandatory broadcast:

[another_liberal]

2. What proof, exactly, do you have of a link to Venezuelan President Maduro?

Is he responsible for every street crime committed by an individual on a motorcycle?

[joshcryer]

3. The video was posted.

He literally called the armed collectivos (paramilitary groups) to go out and inact street justice.

"Hago un llamado a las UBCH, a los consejos comunales, a las comunas, a los colectivos: candelita que se prenda, candelita que se apaga."

"Candelita que se apaga" means "to put out their games."

[another_liberal]

5. And that comment links him to this crime?

You consider a call to, ". . . put out their games," as an order to, ". . . inact street justice?"

I hope you are never a criminal prosecutor.

[ChangoLoa]

7. Of course he's responsible of calling out armed paramilitary groups to repress protests

Especially when those groups kill people in front of the security forces, who watch them passively.

[joshcryer]

8. The intent is obviously lost in translation.

You don't understand the diminutive tone he used when he said candelita, and "their games" is more of a western interpretation to facilitate the discussion, it's more like calling the protesters "hot headed whiny b***es."

"Put out" is unambiguous. "Snuff out" would be an adequate representation of the words used as well.

[7962]

24. Hope you're never a defender...other than for Maduro

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/1/egypt-s-morsi-chargedwithincitingmurderofprotesters.html

Incitement can be prosecuted.

[ChangoLoa]

4. Street crime? Coincidentally in the middle of a protest?

And the criminals don't do anything more than shooting at protesters?

There was a big protest in Valencia and one of the "battle units" came to stop it. Two people are dead and 15 are wounded by bullet.


The student was killed by the "battle units" Maduro called to intervene.

[joshcryer]

10. Ahh, the ever present sea of red shirts.

At least they identify themselves.

[ChangoLoa]

6. Actually it's 2 dead and 15 wounded by bullet in this protest

One National Guard who was also shot and died in Mañongo (same state, different town).

[joshcryer]

9. Unarmed, untrained collectivos.

Probably responsible for the GNB death too.

These students don't have guns but I heard some prans and other armed block thugs were siding with them (rumor). Hopefully the protest side keeps the reactive self defense to a minimum. You don't win these types of protests by shooting back.

[ChangoLoa]

11. Absolutely

Protesters are denouncing more and more the presence of "uncontrolable violent individuals" no one had seen before in the protests.

Vecinos denuncian infiltrados en destrozos de la Torre Británica
http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/protestas-en-venezuela/140312/vecinos-denuncian-infiltrados-en-destrozos-de-la-torre-britanica

[Comrade Grumpy]

38. You're blaming the Chavistas for killing the GNB guy?

Ballsy.

[joshcryer]

39. They arrested SEBIN guys for murdering a collectivo.

It's hardly far fetched.

[spanza]

42. There have been around 20 GNB officers arrested after they refused to follow orders

The GNB has a natural aversion for the colectivos and even more for the UBCH, who are violent gangs with war weapons. Everyone with common sense, chavista or not, agrees they should be disarmed. Don't you?

[spanza]

44. Colectivo la Piedrita

These are the guys they send to "control" some protests



You will also hear the chavista screaming against injustice when someone tries to "demonise" their boy scouts.

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. Your OP doesn't say it was a protest

Maybe it's just a crappy newspaper, and you have a different source that says this was in a protest.

[joshcryer]

13. It's tagged "protests in Venezuela" on the site.

However, you're correct they weren't part of the protest.

Some reports were that he was asking about what was going on: http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/protestas-en-venezuela/140312/capriles-lamento-muerte-de-estudiante-jesus-enrique-acosta-en-valencia

Later reports suggest he was merely sitting inside his home when it happened: http://www.ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/actualidad/sucesos/asesinado-un-universitario-durante-protesta-en-la-.aspx

Regardless he was killed by fire used at the protest.

[bitchkitty]

14. OMIGOD Maduro shot another student???!!!1111!!!!!

Oh, wait...never mind...

[joshcryer]

15. Hilarious!

Just ROFL funny!

[bitchkitty]

17. No, what's hilarious is you and your friends.

The death of this young man is not funny. The death of this young man is tragic, made even more so by the right wingers salivating over the fact that they have yet another martyr to hold up on political forums.

[joshcryer]

21. I'm not the one laughing bitchkitty.

[bitchkitty]

23. I'm not laughing.

Right wing propagandists make me sick to my stomach.

[joshcryer]

26. OMIGOD They do???!!!1111!!!!!

[bitchkitty]

28. Unfunny and unoriginal as always. Yes, you do. n/t

[joshcryer]

29. Authoritarians mocking death disgust me.

[ChangoLoa]

27. Right, we should keep this secret.

...

[ChangoLoa]

18. Came back to celebrate more killings by Maduro's militias?

It's important you do this, so that people see what exactly is madurismo.

Keep on the demonstration.

[bitchkitty]

22. Much more important that you keep us informed.

So grateful we have you for firsthand knowledge.

[dotymed]

16. The corporate crooks

and the entrenched elites don't have to put too much effort into getting their desired propaganda effects.
For some balance on the unrest in Venezuela, an open minded (maybe even a poster on a liberal/progressive site), might look at some reputable alternative News sites.
democracynow.org and therealnews.com have some interesting reports about who is behind the destruction of Venezuela's economy and resulting riots.
This has happened before in most South American countries, the elites usually get what they want.
The propaganda, riots, etc. usually end in in RW regime take-overs...wow what a coincidence.
Any death is too much.
At least read, CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HIT MAN, by John Perkins. It is truly unbelievable the lengths that the "powered elite" will go to.
America (coincidentally) has a line item in "our" budget, just for Venezuela. No other country....

Hell, why bother?

[bitchkitty]

19. Balance? Who needs balance?

ChangoLoa KNOWS. He lives there! He's from there! He said so!!!!

[ChangoLoa]

20. Sure... the corporate crooks disguised as Maduro's militias are the ones who killed this young guy

on ed.: why, brother? because I've seen with my own eyes how Maduro's paramilitaries come to a protest and shoot innocent people in front of the placid National Guard.

I'll give you a hint, you can oppose both imperialism and local systems of power, even when they claim to be anti-imperialist.

What would happen otherwise? When in power, it would be sufficient for a politician to declare himself an "anti-imperialist". Any opposition to him would represent the anti-national interests of the Empire and, therefore, opponents become traitors to the country.

The necessary and useful paranoia of the internal enemy.

[EX500rider]

43. "At least read, CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HIT MAN, by John Perkins."

I think you mean it's truly unbelievable what lengths some authors go to to sell a book.

"Columnist Sebastian Mallaby of The Washington Post reacted sharply to Perkins' book:"This man is a frothing conspiracy theorist, a vainglorious peddler of nonsense, and yet his book, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, is a runaway bestseller." Mallaby, who spent 13 years writing for the London Economist and wrote a critically well-received biography of World Bank chief James Wolfensohn, holds that Perkins' conception of international finance is "largely a dream" and that his "basic contentions are flat wrong".For instance he points out that Indonesia reduced its infant mortality and illiteracy rates by two-thirds after economists persuaded its leaders to borrow money in 1970. He also disputes Perkins' claim that 51 of the top 100 world economies belong to companies. A value-added comparison done by the UN, he says, shows the number to be 29. (The 51 of 100 data comes from an Institute for Policy Studies Dec 2000 Report on the Top 200 corporations; using 2010 data from the CIA's World Factbook and Fortune Global 500 the current ratio is 114 corporations in the top 200 global economies.)

Other sources, including articles in The New York Times and Boston Magazine as well as a press release issued by the United States Department of State, have referred to a lack of documentary or testimonial evidence to corroborate the claim that the NSA was involved in his hiring to Chas T. Main. In addition, the author of the State Department release states that the NSA "is a cryptological (codemaking and codebreaking) organization, not an economic organization" and that its missions do not involve "anything remotely resembling placing economists at private companies in order to increase the debt of foreign countries". Economic historian Niall Ferguson writes in his book The Ascent of Money that Perkins's contention that the leaders of Ecuador (President Jaime Roldós Aguilera) and Panama (General Omar Torrijos) were assassinated by US agents for opposing the interests of the owners of their countries' foreign debt "seems a little odd" in light of the fact that in the 1970s the amount of money that the US had lent to Ecuador and Panama accounted for less than 0.4% of the total US grants and loans, while in 1990 the exports from the US to those countries accounted for approximately 0.4% of the total US exports (approximately $8 billion). According to Ferguson, those "do not seem like figures worth killing for"

"Confessions of a imaginative author"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

[7962]

25. Another day, another story. Im sure poor Mr Acosta just was another Koch-paid "plant".

Because the problems in VZ are all made up. False shortages and oppression. Anything thats wrong is just being used by the rich right wing. Move on, folks, nothing to see here. Just a strong leader of the people trying to stop outside interference and keep the wonderful revolution on track for the NEXT 15 years. They just need TIME to fix the capitalist problems. Come on, folks, just give them the time they need, its hard work!

Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Sad to think that its looking like DU may need an "We support Maduro" section.

[COLGATE4]

30. I think we already have one. nt

[bitchkitty]

31. Because everyone knows that

the media NEVER EVER EVER lies about Venezuela.

[ChangoLoa]

34. This old trick... in that newspaper, they wrote it was a montage. They didn't lie, they made irony

About Chavez's violent speech with a rose in his hand. It was on all national TV as a mandatory broadcast, everyone saw the rose.

Do you get the nuance?

You're not showing anything here.

[7962]

35. True, I guess the guy could really be alive. Or killed by his own.

[ChangoLoa]

45. I think his wife may have been bought by the Koch brothers, she declared what happened on TV

earlier today.

Waiting for youtube...

[7962]

47. You're on a roll!

[JackRiddler]

32. You have no evidence for your statement...

that Maduro or one of the Bolivarian self-defense groups is involved.

That makes you a very cheap propagandist. It's possible that this student was murdered by supporters of the government, of course. But your rush to judgement signals merely that you are willing to exploit any death that happens in Venezuela you are willing to immediately exploit. Not a surprise, given the awesome lies already deployed by the pro-oligarchic movement in their shameless propaganda.

Examples of incredible lies by the minority Venezuelan right-wing opposition

http://imgur.com/a/RluPo/noscriptrt.com/on-air/ukraine-central-kiev-protest/

who seek to overthrow the democratically elected government so as to reestablish oligarchic government with real death squads killing thousands, as before Chavez.

(Click on that link, you've never seen such a bunch of lies!)

Most of the killings in the present upheaval have of course been by the right-wing pro-oligarchic protesters seeking to overthrow the democratically elected government.

[ChangoLoa]

33. Random twitter accounts of unknown people to describe what the opposition says? Your post is a joke!

This is a total joke. Random twitter accounts and a provincial newspaper from Spain? Is that all you've got to demonstrate the "incredible lies" of the opposition???

How ridiculous!
Maduristas in DU hit a new low...

Do you understand that you're just showing how little material you have to accuse the actual opposition of anything? Quite counterproductive for the worshipers, I find.

Who the hell cares what silly falsehoods someone goes find in social networks? Twitter and fb are full of that BS, what you show has strictly zero value. The only FACT here is that you can't link any of those with the opposition, or can you?

Please share it with us if you actually have something worth considering. But my guess is that you're manipulating with useless material, which is quite transparent and foolish. People here are not 8 year old kids.


Do you want real propaganda on national TV, prime time?
Here you go:

Diodado Cabello's picture showing war weapons held by anti-chavista is a fake!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110826651

Venezuela govt lying and manipulating the information once again! New record
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1108&pid=26734


PS: I tend to believe what family members say about the killings, believe our Ministry of Information all you want. If you're on the "students shoot themselves" side of the argument, there's very little to discuss with you.

[spanza]

41. The wife of one of the two murdered men was talking on TV today.

According to her, a group of around 50 men in motorcycle came shooting their guns in their neighborhood, her husband was in the street near a barricade, he tried to escape but they caught him, beat him and finally killed him. They thought he was a "guarimbero", he tried to convince them that he wasn't one but they didn't believe him, so they executed him.

[Judi Lynn]

36. Who can forget that poor lamb, and anti-Chavez skinhead, Julio Soto, shot into the hereafter

to instantly become the focus and inspiration of loud howling, posturing for publicity purposes, a mawkish funeral procession, and all styles of theatrical chewings of the scenery by fellow anti-Chavez students in Zulia?

[center]



Julio Soto



Julio Soto's vehicle[/center]
Venezuela detains 6 in anti-Chavez student's death

CARACAS, Venezuela – Venezuela says six people, including three army intelligence officials and a police officer, have been detained in the killing of an opposition student leader.

Justice Minister Tarek Al Aissami says two civilians were detained along with the intelligence employees and officer, who had been suspended from Venezuela's scientific and investigative police for disciplinary reasons.

He said Thursday that the presumed murder weapon has been recovered, and that authorities are investigating two additional suspects.

University of Zulia student Julio Soto died Oct. 1 when his vehicle was sprayed with gunfire.

More:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3548419


The local university students surged into the streets, bellowing their rage against Hugo Chavez, holding him responsible for the murder of their student leader, a 32 year old law student, with over a million dollars in his bank account, sounding off to the media, using his murder as a real anti-Chavez festival of hatred, only to learn, as detectives pursued the phone numbers in Julio's phone, that he was completely involved with some local criminals, some dirty cops, and had been selling on the black market government-funded bus tickets, meant for allowing students to travel by bus at low rates, stolen cars, drugs, etc. He had bribed local dirty cops, even sent one on trips to Mexico, Panama, Barbados. His partners in crime did him in.

Was there any statement of apology by the local anti-Chavez protesters? Of course not.

[ChangoLoa]

37. LOL! 6 year old news... that's all you've got?

Resident worshipers more and more desperate, I see...

[Judi Lynn]

40. I used it as an example of right-wing "character."

There actually aren't any examples of GOOD right-wing behavior, are there?

[ChangoLoa]

46. What I see is you trying to present a bald crook as a skinhead...

[ChangoLoa]

48. "MY HUSBAND WAS MURDERED BY THE COLECTIVOS (paramilitary)"

The wife of G. Sanchez speaks: "MY HUSBAND WAS MURDERED BY THE COLECTIVOS (paramilitary)"

Luis Acosta speaks too, he says the colectivos killed his cousin, Jesús Acosta. He also describes: "they came to remove the barricades and to disperse the group of people who was protesting there. What they did is a massacre in Isabelica's sector 7"

http://www.ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/actualidad/politica/a-mi-esposo-lo-mataron-los-colectivos-dijo-viuda-d.aspx
http://yoyopress.com/2014/03/12/la-esposa-de-guillermo-sanchez-hablo-a-cnn-no-fueron-francotiradores-fueron-colectivos-quienes-lo-asesinaron/
http://www.visionglobal.info/gina-rodriguez-a-mi-esposo-no-lo-mataron-los-francotiradores-fueron-los-colectivos/
http://www.el-nacional.com/sociedad/Gina-Rodriguez-marido-mataron-colectivos_0_371963021.html