Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:37 PM Mar 2014

Zuckerberg Voices Frustration Over 'Damage The Government Is Creating' With Surveillance

Source: Associated Press

By BARBARA ORTUTAY | Associated Press | 23 minutes ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg says he has called President Barack Obama to express his frustration over what he says is long-lasting damage caused by the U.S. government's surveillance programs.

Posting on his Facebook page Thursday, Zuckerberg wrote that he's been "confused and frustrated by the repeated reports of the behavior of the U.S. government. When our engineers work tirelessly to improve security, we imagine we're protecting you against criminals, not our own government."

Though Zuckerberg does not name the National Security Agency, the post comes a day after the news site Intercept reported that the agency has impersonated a Facebook server to infect surveillance targets' computers and get files from a hard drive. The report is based on documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

The NSA called the report "inaccurate."

"NSA uses its technical capabilities only to support lawful and appropriate foreign intelligence operations, all of which must be carried out in strict accordance with its authorities," the agency said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.newser.com/article/83f029fd79d149cb8e54586356d87097/zuckerberg-voices-frustration-over-damage-the-government-is-creating-with-surveillance.html

23 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Zuckerberg Voices Frustration Over 'Damage The Government Is Creating' With Surveillance (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2014 OP
Says the guy who is collecting data on every user for profit? A bit much coming from him. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #1
Yes, but he has not done it behind any user's back. cosmicone Mar 2014 #4
My thoughts exactly! denvine Mar 2014 #6
Yeah, attention anti-surveillance community. Having Zuckerburg as the poster boy to oppose okaawhatever Mar 2014 #13
TOS and End User Agreements Earth_First Mar 2014 #19
ever heard of Terms of Service? frylock Mar 2014 #21
So if the NSA gives us terms of service what they do is okay? I'm not saying what Facebook does is okaawhatever Mar 2014 #22
Yeah, that's a little like the pot calling the kettle black..... Pinkflamingo Mar 2014 #2
Oh, that's rich! frazzled Mar 2014 #3
See poat No. 4 n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #5
Who cares what this TWIT says about anything warrant46 Mar 2014 #7
Zuckerberg went out to say Renew Deal Mar 2014 #8
Lolz. Good one. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #14
The Baziollionaire hasn't much cred when it comes to the collection of data. SoapBox Mar 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2014 #10
The same guy who tried to route all the world's emails through his website, in secret? arcane1 Mar 2014 #11
Original AP article link below Tx4obama Mar 2014 #12
I guess I should get used to NSA apologists overrunning DU Trajan Mar 2014 #15
+1 Thank you Trajan. In this sea of shit responses, yours is one of the few reliefs. n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #20
This calls for marions ghost Mar 2014 #16
That's what pisses me off the most... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #17
This is hilarious. idendoit Mar 2014 #18
Despite some of the irony, it is pretty messed up the lengths the NSA is going to in order to penultimate Mar 2014 #23
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
4. Yes, but he has not done it behind any user's back.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:49 PM
Mar 2014

Whatever he collects is in the TOS of Facebook and you have an option to not join facebook.

denvine

(799 posts)
6. My thoughts exactly!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

I'm certainly not defending government surveillance, but concerns coming from this guy is a joke.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
13. Yeah, attention anti-surveillance community. Having Zuckerburg as the poster boy to oppose
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:57 PM
Mar 2014

gov't surveillance is like having Charlie Sheen as the poster boy for clean living.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
19. TOS and End User Agreements
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:34 PM
Mar 2014

You have the choice to participate or not.

Whereas free access to information without meta data points being collected are miles apart in their privacy infringements.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
22. So if the NSA gives us terms of service what they do is okay? I'm not saying what Facebook does is
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:15 PM
Mar 2014

illegal, nor am I saying what the NSA does is okay. But just because Facebook met their legal requirements by telling people they may collect their data, doesn't mean that what they've done is okay. Do you think if scotus rules that what the NSA has done is legal that it's okay? (and let's face it, with the current scotus they'll probably find for the NSA)

My comment is based on the fact that, in general, Facebook and Zuckerburg are not pro-privacy. There's no getting around that. Yes, they're meeting their legal requirements but that's not the same as being concerned about privacy. I also distrust the businesses who claim to support reforming the NSA legislatively when they make their profit off of data collection. I think their ultimate aim is to draft legislation that scales back the NSA but doesn't touch them. They don't want anyone coming in and writing laws that may affect all data collection and by extension, their profit.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. Oh, that's rich!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:44 PM
Mar 2014

From the guy who has made his fortune entirely out of ... collecting data on kazillions of people. He knows who your friends are.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
7. Who cares what this TWIT says about anything
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:52 PM
Mar 2014

Kind of like every time LOSER Palin opens her BIG PIE-HOLE and Bloviates CRAP

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
11. The same guy who tried to route all the world's emails through his website, in secret?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:55 PM
Mar 2014

Pot, meet kettle.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
15. I guess I should get used to NSA apologists overrunning DU
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:00 PM
Mar 2014

While Zuckerberg has some culpability on the private sector for over using his tools to capture personal information of FB users ... His sins do not give a PASS to the government to violate our rights as citizens ...

It's that a choir I hear? ... who left the fucking gate open? ...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. That's what pisses me off the most...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:09 PM
Mar 2014

because Snowden refuses to involve corporate culpability in the releases, they get to "play dumb" and deny everything...

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
23. Despite some of the irony, it is pretty messed up the lengths the NSA is going to in order to
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:49 PM
Mar 2014

collect information on citizens....if true, that is.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Zuckerberg Voices Frustra...