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thecrow

(5,519 posts)
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:17 PM Mar 2014

Distraught Relatives of Missing Flight 370 Passengers Dragged Away From TV Cameras by Malaysian Offi

Source: NYT

As my colleague Chris Buckley reported, distraught family members of passengers on the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 were forcibly dragged away from reporters on Wednesday after they unfurled a banner accusing the Malaysian government of “concealing the truth” and spoke of their grief.

Jonah Fisher, a BBC correspondent reporting from the hotel in Sepang, Malaysia, observed that Malaysian government officials “are not used to having their authority challenged like this,” and appeared unable to moderate their response to the protests from the relatives of Chinese passengers. “This was not a message the Malaysians want the world to hear,” Mr. Fisher said, “and they crudely stepped in and dragged the women kicking and screaming out of the room.”

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I just watched the story of TWA 800 and it really makes me wonder.
I read this and it just breaks my heart. What *are* these relatives being told?
Then too, now it is being turned over to the FBI, just like TWA 800 was, except in a foreign country.
What jurisdiction does the FBI have in Malaysia???
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Distraught Relatives of Missing Flight 370 Passengers Dragged Away From TV Cameras by Malaysian Offi (Original Post) thecrow Mar 2014 OP
TELL THE TRUTH! RussBLib Mar 2014 #1
My heart breaks for these alsame Mar 2014 #2
VIDEO from link is heartbreaking, hearing the cries of the mother: freshwest Mar 2014 #11
I hope they are alsame Mar 2014 #14
Barisan--and the state it built--is a lot like the PRI or INC MisterP Mar 2014 #3
Yup! SoapBox Mar 2014 #4
K&R.....Thanks for posting red dog 1 Mar 2014 #5
Imagine yourself in the position of the authorities. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #6
"Answers will come"? red dog 1 Mar 2014 #7
Yes, when they find the plane. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #9
But WE DON'T KNOW what they do or don't know. rocktivity Mar 2014 #8
The last thing you will ever hear anyone in a position of authority say AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #10
I agree with this post. IMO, they just don't know what happened. WhoWoodaKnew Mar 2014 #12
the FBI is involved because the Malaysian govt asked them rollin74 Mar 2014 #13

RussBLib

(9,003 posts)
1. TELL THE TRUTH!
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:33 PM
Mar 2014

That was the crawl on the TV in the breakroom. Relatives demand they "TELL THE TRUTH!"

alsame

(7,784 posts)
2. My heart breaks for these
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:37 PM
Mar 2014

people. The horror of not knowing what happened to their loved ones must be unbearable.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. VIDEO from link is heartbreaking, hearing the cries of the mother:
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 03:16 PM
Mar 2014


In addition to the natural feelings of mothers, fathers, family and friends, perhaps another factor is involved with why they are fighting so hard to find out where their loved ones are.

China had a one-child policy for many years. This was or is (hopefully adding the present tense in case they are alive) likely her only child, now grown to manhood, and she will never have another.

In the back of my mind, I hope the reason information is being withheld, and authorities are not giving closure, is that the governments of the region know where they are being held hostage. There may be negotiations going on and authorities don't want to endanger their lives by saying where they are, or negating the value of their lives to their captors by declaring them dead and of no use to them.

There was an OP here about a Muslim leader in China who fled to Pakistan and is now being touted as a new leader of jihad in Pakistan. He vowed to attack China for suppressing them as they want to secede to form an Islamic state.

One of the pilots onboard the plane was alleged to be acting strangely as he left his gated community, having given a military salute instead of his normal farewell to the guards there. If stories of his off work studies of flight training at home, which are now said to have been wiped off his system, he may have saluted them as he considered himself a soldier going to battle that day in an unconventional way.

It turns out that about twenty passengers are specialists in cyber warfare and related technology, per an OP posted here on DU. Of those, eight were Malaysian nationals and 12 were Chinese, but it would seem they worked for the Carlyle Group. Thus the western involvement in this case by the FBI, perhaps.

At least I hope they alive. As do their relatives. The cries of that mother made me cry, too.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
14. I hope they are
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 03:36 PM
Mar 2014

alive too. But if not, I hope they find out as soon as possible. These poor people are in agony.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
3. Barisan--and the state it built--is a lot like the PRI or INC
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:42 PM
Mar 2014

"don't question us and we'll make a techno-utopia--and especially don't bring religion or forests into the equation"; that's the Wellsian perspective they operate on

red dog 1

(27,781 posts)
5. K&R.....Thanks for posting
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:49 PM
Mar 2014

I heard on NPR that Malaysian government officials have turned down offers by the U.S. for the FBI to help in the investigation.

My heart goes out to these grief-stricken family members.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. Imagine yourself in the position of the authorities.
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:49 PM
Mar 2014

They don't know. They can't know. How do you reassure people whose loved ones have vanished, that you are doing everything that you can?

This event just sucks, for everyone.

I don't know where your mother is. I don't know where your child is. I don't know. I don't know. We're looking. And meanwhile, the people asking are victims themselves, having lost what is most important in life to any of us.

Who wants to be the PR guy to stand up and field that stuff? Who could?


And when people fail, they fall back to cultural decorum. Which means, people get removed as disruptive.
Sucks.

What can anyone do? Find the plane. That's all anyone can do. Find the plane, find the people, answers will come.

red dog 1

(27,781 posts)
7. "Answers will come"?
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:55 PM
Mar 2014

Answers sure as hell aren't coming from the Malaysian government.

My gut feeling is that they know a lot more than they're letting on.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
9. Yes, when they find the plane.
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:59 PM
Mar 2014

As I specified.

Till then, this shit is all professional speculation, really.
That's all the Malaysian government really can do.


Find the plane, find the answers. Till it is found, till the people or their remains are found, people are just guessing.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
8. But WE DON'T KNOW what they do or don't know.
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 02:58 PM
Mar 2014

They're telling us what they want to tell us and denying what they want to deny.

The PR department can't tell anyone what the "authorities" aren't telling them.

All we can do is wait until they're ready to tell us what they want to tell us -- and hope that it's true.


rocktivity

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
10. The last thing you will ever hear anyone in a position of authority say
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 03:00 PM
Mar 2014

is:


"We don't have a clue. We're just guessing at this point."

Partially because, that's the last damn thing anyone ever wants to hear.

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