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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:46 PM Mar 2014

Former NSA chief Hayden apologizes to Germans, but not for spying

Source: Deutsche Welle

Michael Hayden has issued an apology to Germans in an interview with news magazine Der Spiegel. Yet he said he had no regrets about the NSA's surveillance practices, only that the group failed to keep its actions secret.

The former NSA director Michael Hayden told this week's Der Spiegel that attending the recent Munich Security Conference made him realize how much value German people place on their privacy.

"I admit that we Americans did not just underestimate the effects on the chancellor, but rather on the whole German population," Hayden said. "Perhaps the Germans have some different sensibilities because of their history. During the Munich Security Conference I sensed that the Germans regard their privacy in a similar way that we Americans see perhaps the freedom of speech or religion."

In an interview with DW during the Munich Security Conference earlier this year, Hayden had also mentioned how he was struck by "the depth of feeling" on the issue.

Germans retain comparatively fresh memories of oppressive secret police services, first under Adolf Hitler and then in former Communist East Germany. Parliamentarians in the Bundestag this week unanimously approved launching a special parliamentary inquiry into the extent of NSA espionage.

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Read more: http://www.dw.de/former-nsa-chief-hayden-apologizes-to-germans-but-not-for-spying/a-17515696

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Pholus

(4,062 posts)
1. Wow, I didn't know you'd take it that bad. Sorry for that.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:48 PM
Mar 2014

But just the same let me get the proctoscope lubed up...

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
2. The subtext loud and clear is that Americans approve of these actions.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:59 PM
Mar 2014

And only the germans are sensitive to this. It's as if the fourth amendment does not exist.

Fuck you Hayden!

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
3. Since monitoring stifles speech, it IS a free speech issue!
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:09 PM
Mar 2014

But instead we have to trust Hayden and his ilk to collect it all yet not be petty enough to try to use words that offend them to extract revenge.

Yet I see no evidence that they're any less petty than old J. Edgar himself.

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. Are other countries who are spying on Germany apologizing as well?
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:44 PM
Mar 2014

What about all the other counties who were listening in on Merkel's cell phone?

I'm just askin'...

 

bongiver

(35 posts)
8. This
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 10:29 PM
Mar 2014

This is the same jack ass that did not know the 4th amendment even though he had taken an oath to protect it.
Arrogant to the core.
When will these out of control agencies like the NSA, CIA, etc. be shut down?

 

pragmatic_dem

(410 posts)
9. Wow, Michael Hayden is quite the fucker isn't he? I guess he forgot about Stasi, Nazis, KGB
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:37 PM
Mar 2014

but what Hayden really, really hates about Germany is their health care system, low rate of violent crime, robust manufacturing and high tech sector, high standard of living and banking regulations.

Clearly, they can't be trusted.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
10. Gee, discrediting a country on the spying issue, that has had experience at being a police state.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 12:00 AM
Mar 2014

Way to go there Mike. What else are you missing, besides understanding our Constitution, that is?

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