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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:29 AM Mar 2014

Earthquake: 5.3 quake shakes Los Angeles, Southern California

Last edited Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:55 PM - Edit history (5)

Source: LATIMES

A shallow magnitude 5.3 earthquake was reported Friday evening one mile from La Habra, California, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. The temblor occurred at 9:09 p.m. Pacific time at a depth of 0.6 miles.

Updated at 9:16 p.m.

The quake was felt across a large swath of Southern California. There were no immediate reports of damage. The Los Angeles Fire Department said it is going into emergency mode and looking for signs of damage or injuries.

According to the USGS, the epicenter was one mile from Brea, California, three miles from Rowland Heights, California, three miles from Fullerton, California and 337 miles from Phoenix, Arizona.

In the past ten days, there has been one earthquake magnitude 3.0 and greater centered nearby.

This information comes from the USGS Earthquake Notification Service and this post was created by an algorithm written by the author

updated ; http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/earthquake-53-quake-strikes-near-la-habra-california-k2al0i,0,5399191.story#axzz2xKDu5ac7



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Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/earthquake-53-quake-strikes-near-la-habra-california-k2al0i,0,5399191.story#axzz2xK2plnyk



http://bigstory.ap.org/article/magnitude-51-earthquake-shakes-los-angeles

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2014/03/29/us/ap-us-california-earthquake.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/29/us-earthquake-california-idUSBREA2S03H20140329?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/ci15481673#summary

https://twitter.com/SkyAlertMx/status/449769875636879360/photo/1

https://twitter.com/ObservingSpace/status/449772073506729984/photo/1

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/5-1-earthquake-shakes-los-angeles-area-usgs-says-n66721

http://www.10news.com/news/magnitude-54-quake-hits-southeast-of-la

and of course CNN is wondering : http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/28/opinion/kuchins-obama-putin/index.html?eref=edition&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=cnni

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/29/earthquake-strikes-near-los-angeles?CMP=twt_fd
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Earthquake: 5.3 quake shakes Los Angeles, Southern California (Original Post) MindMover Mar 2014 OP
Oh man, I felt that one Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2014 #1
Felt it in San Diego bananas Mar 2014 #4
I'm in So. Pas PasadenaTrudy Mar 2014 #26
USGS event page bananas Mar 2014 #2
Orange County Iliyah Mar 2014 #3
Palmdale area...whooo hooo!!!!!! Xolodno Mar 2014 #5
I'm in Covina ripcord Mar 2014 #6
Welcome to DU, ripcord! calimary Mar 2014 #9
I'm fine ripcord Mar 2014 #10
Oh that's nothing, lol. I lived just a couple miles from the Northridge epicenter kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #30
Didn't feel a thing this time! calimary Mar 2014 #7
LOL. I remember him ducking below his anchor desk. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #15
I was still working at the time. He took a lot of crap from others in the business, locally, for calimary Mar 2014 #34
I don't think it was much of anything aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2014 #8
Minor household damage antiquie Mar 2014 #50
Felt it pretty good here in Redondo Beach, news just said was actually 5.1... winstars Mar 2014 #11
Fracking? Trillo Mar 2014 #12
No PasadenaTrudy Mar 2014 #25
Perhaps. Using Google Earth, 33.929N 117.922W, it's just houses at the epicenter. Trillo Mar 2014 #41
California is threatened by fracking marions ghost Mar 2014 #47
Faults run under houses and bldgs n/t PasadenaTrudy Mar 2014 #53
We don't need fracking to get earthquakes. kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #31
Uh huh. Wikipedia has a more interesting entry.... Trillo Mar 2014 #46
Earthquakes predate fracking in this area by millions, if not billions, of years. kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #56
Thank you PasadenaTrudy Mar 2014 #58
"... if you are going to blame these SoCal quakes on fracking and not plate tectonics ..." Trillo Mar 2014 #60
It woke me up, but I didn't really feel it tishaLA Mar 2014 #13
Me, too. In the few years leading up to Northridge we had a number of these kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #32
Burbank here. Felt it. But the wine I'm drinking Beaverhausen Mar 2014 #14
Knocked down a few pictures and a clock broke after it fell over. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #16
any tremor less than 3.5 can't be felt by humans. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #20
That's not true Beaverhausen Mar 2014 #27
I just checked, and the aftershocks I felt were 3.4 and 3.6.. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #28
within .1 of 3.5. Which is what I said. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #37
I've felt ones in the 2.0's as well. What you said is wrong. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #38
Can you feel an earthquake with the magnitude of 2.0? Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #39
Quakes below 2.0 can be felt by people bananas Mar 2014 #40
Yes. I can. Your Wikipedia cite does not contradict that. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #42
False. Several years ago there was a Northridge aftershock of just 2.0 kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #33
every university level geology book i've read says opposite, but i am am wrong, i am wrong. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #36
There is no arguing with actual reality and physical experience. kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #55
three miles from Fullerton, California and 337 miles from Phoenix, Arizona. Jack for Sanders Mar 2014 #17
No. George Strait's prediction won't happen yet. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #19
I said the same thing to my husband catchnrelease Mar 2014 #23
the pressure along the conservative San Andreas plate boundary has been building for years Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #18
i'm in NC barbtries Mar 2014 #21
Western S. Bernardino Co. Scairp Mar 2014 #22
I hate earthquakes. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #24
My son's in LA. silverweb Mar 2014 #29
Uhhh...missed it. SoapBox Mar 2014 #35
CNN's wondering if it was caused by a UFO... nilram Mar 2014 #43
It was a long wavy one. Felt it strong here in the SFV. TeamPooka Mar 2014 #44
I was driving at the time right near LAX Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #45
My cats think it's something I caused, and they stay away from me for hours. meti57b Mar 2014 #48
Lol...cat logic BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #51
Yeah, there was a thread about earthquake warnings...... DeSwiss Mar 2014 #49
Felt it pretty big in West Hollywood. nt broadcaster75201 Mar 2014 #52
More than 100 aftershocks rattle Calif. after strong quake jakeXT Mar 2014 #54
....and another one tishaLA Mar 2014 #57
K&R. Mr_Jefferson_24 Mar 2014 #59

calimary

(81,189 posts)
9. Welcome to DU, ripcord!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:45 AM
Mar 2014

Glad you're here! Things really are shakin' around here lately! We were on the Westside and were jolted pretty noticeably during the most recent one that was centered in Encino. But this one - not noticeable at all. You're okay, I hope.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
30. Oh that's nothing, lol. I lived just a couple miles from the Northridge epicenter
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:23 AM
Mar 2014

and was in the loft bedroom of my 3rd floor condo when that sucker hit.

That was definitely an E-ticket ride.

calimary

(81,189 posts)
7. Didn't feel a thing this time!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:43 AM
Mar 2014

The anchor on Channel 9, Kent Shocknek, said it could be a foreshock of something bigger -

He was a morning anchor on the NBC O&O here in L.A. during the 1994 quake. They called him Kent Aftershocknek.

calimary

(81,189 posts)
34. I was still working at the time. He took a lot of crap from others in the business, locally, for
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:29 AM
Mar 2014

doing that. Tons of teasing and snarky remarks. The only difference between him and the rest of those shitting their pants that morning was - he did it live on TV.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
8. I don't think it was much of anything
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:45 AM
Mar 2014

I live in Huntington Beach, not far from La Habra where the quake was centered. It was a gentle rolling that lasted about 8 or 9 seconds. I remember the big quake of 1971 known as the Sylmar earthquake, where I think more than 30 people died and 40,000 were evacuated because of the severe damage to a dam. That one occurred early in the morning and was extremely frightening. That one felt like the roof of the old house I was in at the time was going to fall down on my bed. That one seemed to go on and on forever. The entire house was creaking loudly, twisted back and forth and you could hear the loud rumbling coming up from the ground. This was was nowhere even remotely scary like that one, although you always wonder if it will get worse until it stops shaking.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
50. Minor household damage
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:53 AM
Mar 2014

in Buena Park (rocked hard enough to bust the upstairs toilet) and here in Yorba Linda we have pictures and knickknacks down in most rooms. It was a little bit bigger than not much of anything. Add in the rest of the swarm...

winstars

(4,219 posts)
11. Felt it pretty good here in Redondo Beach, news just said was actually 5.1...
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:47 AM
Mar 2014

I was in West Hollywood in 1994 for the Northridge Earthquake, now that was ROCK AND ROLL...

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
41. Perhaps. Using Google Earth, 33.929N 117.922W, it's just houses at the epicenter.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:37 AM
Mar 2014

Here's a short quote from an article:


"In other states, injection wells located 7.5 miles from a fault have been shown to induce seismic activity, points out Andrew Grinberg, the oil and gas project manager for Clean Water Action.


Thus, if that is accurate information, it seems a 7.5 radius or 15 mile diameter should be drawn around the area. That is a much larger area, with the epicenter in the center of the circle, and incorporates a lot of undeveloped, and what looks like hilly, land. It's also worth noting there are plenty of industry advocates who assert there is zero danger of increased magnitude quakes from fracking, and of course there are opposing advocates. So, one expert cancels another: I'd be curious to know if there are or were any fracked wells in that particular circular area!

From the reading I've done, it has been asserted that fracking increases the magnitude of quakes. I do agree that California has always had a lot of quakes (I was born in and lived in SoCal my entire 50+ years, and I felt this particular quake some 50 miles away.)

Just to make the issue even more complicated, very long distances between earthquakes and linked fracking have been reported:

The study said there was a direct connection between a 9.0 earthquake in Japan in 2011 and a swarm of smaller quakes in a West Texas oil field that used fracking. A 4.1 quake near fracking wells in Prague, Oklahoma, was linked to an 8.8 quake in Chile in 2010. The Chile quake also shook the ground in Trinidad, Colorado, near natural gas fracking sites.

The earthquake threat doesn’t come from the hydraulic fracturing itself, but from the disposal of waste water and chemicals used in the fracking. It is these injection wells that have been linked to earthquakes.

A second study, also just published in Science, states that, “Microearthquakes (that is, those with magnitudes below 2) are routinely produced as part of the hydraulic fracturing (or ‘fracking’) process used to stimulate the production of oil, but the process as currently practiced appears to pose a low risk of inducing destructive earthquakes.”

However, the long-distance effect from major earthquakes could change the whole scientific and political dynamic surrounding fracking.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
47. California is threatened by fracking
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:03 AM
Mar 2014

"Fracking has been around for decades but is coming under increased scrutiny as California ponders tapping The Monterey Shale, a repository of oil that could top 15.3 billion barrels and may represent 60% of all shale oil in the country. It is pretty much unregulated in the state, while the energy industry fights rules that would force them to identify where they are fracking, give notice where they intend to frack and disclose what toxic chemicals they are pumping into the ground with millions of gallons of pressurized water.

Critics say fracking has been linked to groundwater contamination, air pollution, releases of methane gas, micro-earthquakes and sink holes. A 2011 report from the Committee on Energy and Commerce in the House of Representatives identified 29 known or suspected carcinogens used in fracking between 2005 and 2009."

(from your article)

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
31. We don't need fracking to get earthquakes.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:24 AM
Mar 2014

They happen all on their own without the assistance of man.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
46. Uh huh. Wikipedia has a more interesting entry....
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:21 AM
Mar 2014

Pretty sure its within a few miles distance, but I could be wrong. It looks like its just north of Brea, in the hills without housing tracts, within a few or couple of miles from the epicenter, and that most of the field is within 8 miles radius:


Next quote from Brea-Olinda Oil Field.

Some enhanced recovery technologies have been used since the 1960s, particularly in the Miocene and Pliocene producing horizons. Steamflooding of the Pliocene commenced in 1973, a method useful for decreasing viscosity of heavy oil and encouraging it to flow to pumping wells. The Miocene pool has been subject to cyclic steam, steamflooding, waterflooding, and fireflooding.[8]

Unocal operated most of the field until March 1996, at which time it sold off all of its California assets to Nuevo Energy.[14] Nuevo operated the field for seven years, finally selling its portion of the field in 2003 for $59 million to BlackSand Partners, L.P., prior to themselves being acquired by Plains Exploration & Production.[15] At that time the field was producing 2,269 barrels per day. BlackSand ran operations on the field for a little over three years, and in 2006 Linn Energy bought it from BlackSand for $291 million.[16] In February 2007 Aera Energy LLC transferred its 654 wells on the field to Linn Energy, leaving Linn as the largest operator on the field.[17] As of 2009 Linn remained the principal operator with 361 active wells, followed by BreitBurn with 73 wells, Cooper & Brain with 21, and Thompson Energy Resources, LLC, with 18.[2]


It is interesting to me that the word "fracking" does not occur, yet it is unclear what techniques may have been used by the latest operators in that second paragraph of the excerpt.

According to Physicians for Social Responsibility:

Right now, we know at least two large oil fields are fracked: the Brea-Olinda field near the city of Whittier, and the Inglewood field in the city of Los Angeles.
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
56. Earthquakes predate fracking in this area by millions, if not billions, of years.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 03:39 PM
Mar 2014

Yesterday's quake was on the same fault that gave us the Whittier quake prior to Northridge.

I agree that fracking is a horrible thing, but if you are going to blame these SoCal quakes on fracking and not plate tectonics, you're just delusional.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
60. "... if you are going to blame these SoCal quakes on fracking and not plate tectonics ..."
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 03:22 AM
Mar 2014

Last edited Sun Mar 30, 2014, 03:56 AM - Edit history (1)

I'm sure I didn't say that. You might want to scroll up and carefully reread my posts.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
13. It woke me up, but I didn't really feel it
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:49 AM
Mar 2014

if you know what I mean. I only knew afterwords that it was the earthquake that inspired the end of my nap.

Anyhow, I'm kinda worried about these recent quakes, especially because both of them have been shallow. I have a sense of foreboding.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
32. Me, too. In the few years leading up to Northridge we had a number of these
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:26 AM
Mar 2014

moderate quakes in the area, after years of nothing.

Same pattern seems to be happening now. I am quite nervous.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
16. Knocked down a few pictures and a clock broke after it fell over.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:59 AM
Mar 2014

And a glass of water tipped over and got our bills wet. My husband and son were driving and didn't feel it at all. But I really felt it since I was home, on the 2nd floor of our house here in Seal Beach (just south of Long Beach). It lasted at least 20 seconds. Still feeling little 2.0 aftershocks.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
28. I just checked, and the aftershocks I felt were 3.4 and 3.6..
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:21 AM
Mar 2014

They're saying this quake was very shallow, i.e. close to the surface, so people felt it more.

Anyway, I'm human and I definitely felt the 3.4.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
38. I've felt ones in the 2.0's as well. What you said is wrong.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:11 AM
Mar 2014

Humans can definitely feel 2.0's

How big does it need to be for a person to feel it?

What an earthquake feels like depends on many factors: the magnitude, your distance from the hypocenter (considering the depth of the quake), the type of soil or rock you are on, the building you are in or if you are outdoors & what you are doing at the time. Under ideal conditions, you are lying or sitting still in an upper floor, right on top of a shallow earthquake, you might feel a 1.8 if you were paying attention. Usually, however, it takes at least a magnitude of 2.0 for multiple people to notice a quake & recognize it as a quake. A 4.0 usually gets a lot of public attention if it happens under a populated area.


http://www.scsn.org/faq.html#measuring

I can't believe you're arguing with me over this.





 

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
39. Can you feel an earthquake with the magnitude of 2.0?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:19 AM
Mar 2014

No. Worldwide, over 8,000 earthquakes of magnitude 2.0 or less occur every day, and nobody ever feels them. Earthquakes can start to be felt over 3.0, but even then they are very weak and rarely cause damage. To put it in perspective, all the earthquakes that cause major damage are usually in the 7.0-9.0 range. These quakes are millions of times stronger than a 1.9 quake would be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale#Richter_magnitudes

I hate using wikipedia, but I'm going to get an abscess dressing changed and have no desire to continue this.

You might feel it, but more than likely, if you were not paying attention, you would not.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
40. Quakes below 2.0 can be felt by people
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:32 AM
Mar 2014

Thanks for linking to wikipedia, it says you're wrong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale#Richter_magnitudes

Less than 2.0 Micro I Microearthquakes, not felt, or felt rarely by sensitive people.

2.0–2.9 Minor I to II Felt slightly by some people.

3.0–3.9 II to IV Often felt by people, but very rarely causes damage.


SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
42. Yes. I can. Your Wikipedia cite does not contradict that.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:39 AM
Mar 2014

Of course most people don't feel small earthquakes. My husband and son did not even feel the 5.1 because they were in a car. But this is shallow fault. I am on the 2nd floor and am in a flat, liquifaction prone area by the beach. All that makes smaller tremors feel much stronger.

Liquifaction is why a beach town like Santa Monica had such terrible damage from the Northridge quake even though the epicenter was miles away in the San Fernando Valley.

You shouldn't assume you know what people feel, especially when you're not here.

I hope your abscess heals soon.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
33. False. Several years ago there was a Northridge aftershock of just 2.0
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:28 AM
Mar 2014

that happened directly underneath my little rental house, lol. I thought it was The Big One for about 3 seconds. But a mile away people barely felt it.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
55. There is no arguing with actual reality and physical experience.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 03:32 PM
Mar 2014

I am reading the same things online. They say people "do not normally" feel quakes under 3.0. That is completely different from saying that we CANNOT. If you are up and moving around you probably won't feel a little one. That same little quake WILL be felt by someone sitting quietly at rest.

 

Jack for Sanders

(46 posts)
17. three miles from Fullerton, California and 337 miles from Phoenix, Arizona.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:01 AM
Mar 2014
337 miles from Phoenix, Arizona?

What an odd thing to include in the report.

Unless they know something they're not telling us.

Should I be buying ocean front property in west Phoenix or something?

Just askin' for a friend.
 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
19. No. George Strait's prediction won't happen yet.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:02 AM
Mar 2014

And Arizona will get a tremor dogs will feel, but not people. 2.0 maybe.

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
23. I said the same thing to my husband
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:08 AM
Mar 2014

When I read that, I said "Is that the most important landmark they can come up with? Phoenix??"

Felt like we were on a boat here in Long Beach.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
18. the pressure along the conservative San Andreas plate boundary has been building for years
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:01 AM
Mar 2014

It hasn't moved much. It's beginning to slip. The big one might be on the way. All that has to happen is the joint holding the energy back to break or give away and LA is looking at a minimum 7.0 - 7.5 slip fault, shallow focus Earthquake.

For someone that teaches plate tectonics in his geography class, this is a fascinating time in California.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
22. Western S. Bernardino Co.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:08 AM
Mar 2014

We felt the one before that and then the larger one, which is very unusual. Rattled our windows, dogs barking. Still, not that big of a deal, IMO.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
24. I hate earthquakes.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:09 AM
Mar 2014

We don't really have them here in FL, but Ive been through many back home. They SUCK

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
29. My son's in LA.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:21 AM
Mar 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Westwood, to be exact, and he didn't feel anything. Just lucky, I guess.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
54. More than 100 aftershocks rattle Calif. after strong quake
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 03:21 PM
Mar 2014

LOS ANGELES — More than 100 aftershocks continued to rattle Southern California on Saturday after a stronger earthquake the night before displaced dozens of residents.

Among the strongest aftershocks, the U.S. Geological Survey reported a magnitude-3.4 struck at 9:02 a.m. PT Saturday, centered close to La Habra near Los Angeles, which took the brunt of the larger quake Friday night.

The strong earthquake was felt widely across the region shortly after 9 p.m. PT Friday. The USGS said the epicenter was 1 mile from Brea, located about 20 miles southeast of downtown Los Angeles, and 3 miles from Rowland Heights and Fullerton. The main quake was preceded by two foreshocks registering at magnitudes 3.6 and 2.1, scientists said.

USGS seismologist Lucy Jones at CalTech in Pasadena told the Los Angeles Times that the 5.1 quake has a 5% chance of being a foreshock of an even larger quake.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/29/quake-calif-la-orange/7045563/

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
57. ....and another one
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:43 PM
Mar 2014

about 10 minutes ago. I cant find it on the USGS map, though, so I have no idea of its intensity or epicenter

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