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Jgarrick

(521 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:44 PM Apr 2014

SAF wins injunction v. N.M. “citizens only” CCW requirement

Source: Examiner.com

The Second Amendment Foundation notched another court victory today, this time in New Mexico, where a section of that state’s concealed carry law was hit with a permanent injunction for violating the Constitution’s equal protection clause, while in neighboring Colorado, a federal court this morning began hearing a challenge to that state’s new gun control laws, passed in 2013.

The SAF case was Jackson v. Eden, and it challenged the New Mexico requirement that all applicants for carry licenses be U.S. citizens.

Chief U.S. District Judge M. Christina Armijo issued the order Monday morning in Albuquerque, noting that the state can sever the offending requirement and still enforce the remainder of the carry statute, which has other legal requirements that all applicants must satisfy.

John W. Jackson is an Australian citizen who resides permanently in Rio Rancho, a community just north of Albuquerque. With the exception of his citizenship status, he is otherwise qualified to obtain a concealed carry license, the court ruled.

Read more: http://www.examiner.com/article/saf-wins-injunction-v-n-m-citizens-only-ccw-requirement

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SAF wins injunction v. N.M. “citizens only” CCW requirement (Original Post) Jgarrick Apr 2014 OP
Let me see if I've got this straight KamaAina Apr 2014 #1
Nah, they just didn't mean to catch a white person in their net. /nt Ash_F Apr 2014 #3
He would have a permanent resident green card kmlisle Apr 2014 #6
Oh, well, that explains it KamaAina Apr 2014 #7
My partner is Chinese and has a permanent green card kmlisle Apr 2014 #10
But does s/he want a gun? KamaAina Apr 2014 #15
No but apparently he is entitled to one if he did want it kmlisle Apr 2014 #16
Oh, I almost forgot KamaAina Apr 2014 #20
Thanks! ;-) kmlisle Apr 2014 #21
The case would have been decided the same. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #14
This is not new. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #12
Anyone standing on American soil Callmecrazy Apr 2014 #2
Right to vote? GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #4
Voting is granted only to American citizens... Callmecrazy Apr 2014 #11
Sure, just not in federal elections. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #13
Guns, guns, guns!!!! SoapBox Apr 2014 #5
IIRC it was an equal protection violation- not necessarily second amendment bossy22 Apr 2014 #8
Unfortunately, many would trash the Constitution because they hate guns... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #9
The Bill of Rights applies to all on our soil. NutmegYankee Apr 2014 #17
Fuck the SAF and the rest of the gun nuts jpak Apr 2014 #18
How eloquent... Jgarrick Apr 2014 #19
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. Let me see if I've got this straight
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:59 PM
Apr 2014

the gun lobby is now advocating for the rights of undocumented immigrants?!

kmlisle

(276 posts)
6. He would have a permanent resident green card
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:26 PM
Apr 2014

It would be interesting to see what would have happened in court if the plaintant had been Latino. Of course New Mexico is Not Arizona on this issue.

kmlisle

(276 posts)
10. My partner is Chinese and has a permanent green card
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:42 PM
Apr 2014

He chooses not to be an American citizen and has lived here since he was 17. He is documented because of the green card not undocumented. We have millions of legal documented people from other countries living in the us. Thousands live in my home town because it is a big university with thousands of documented students with mostly temporary green cards. No sarcasm needed.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
15. But does s/he want a gun?
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:41 PM
Apr 2014

I see the UU Flaming Chalice below your name. Surely you don't want everyone walking around armed?

kmlisle

(276 posts)
16. No but apparently he is entitled to one if he did want it
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:02 PM
Apr 2014

I'm not sure how Florida officials would react. But I do have vet and hunter friends who are armed and have no problem with their choices. As a UU I try to stay open and respectful to other people's points of view.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. The case would have been decided the same.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:04 AM
Apr 2014

There is Circuit appeals level precedent already in place. Trivial matter to decide.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. This is not new.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:02 AM
Apr 2014

In Washington State, after 9/11 they suspended, indefinitely, the alien firearms license program. 2AF sued and got it going again.

And this isn't strictly about undocumented immigrants, it applies to legal, resident aliens as well.

Essentially, the constitution applies equally to all persons within its sphere of influence.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
2. Anyone standing on American soil
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:04 PM
Apr 2014

enjoys the rights granted to us by our Constitution. Regardless of where you are from, you are here now and subject to our laws.

And where does it say he's undocumented?

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
11. Voting is granted only to American citizens...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:52 PM
Apr 2014

And he has stated that he is an Australian citizen. I'm sure he can vote absentee in Australia.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
8. IIRC it was an equal protection violation- not necessarily second amendment
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:33 PM
Apr 2014

on edit: it would be "sick" if they carved out a special exemption in the equal protection clause to allow such a law to stand...

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
9. Unfortunately, many would trash the Constitution because they hate guns...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:38 PM
Apr 2014

...and as we've seen, some of them post here at DU.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
17. The Bill of Rights applies to all on our soil.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 07:57 PM
Apr 2014

The 14th amendment requires "equal protection of the law". That goes for anybody, even undocumented immigrants. All share in the protections of the Bill of Rights.

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