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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Fri May 2, 2014, 05:49 AM May 2014

Janice Hahn storms out of National Day of Prayer gathering over James Dobson’s abortion ‘rant’

Source: LA Daily News

Janice Hahn storms out of National Day of Prayer gathering over James Dobson’s abortion ‘rant’
By Donna Littlejohn, LA Daily News
Posted: 05/01/14, 8:03 PM PDT | Updated: 41 secs ago

Harbor Area Rep. Janice Hahn stormed out of Thursday’s National Day of Prayer gathering on Capitol Hill, saying she was outraged by what she later characterized as a “hateful political rant” by one of the speakers.

Evangelical Christian radio host James Dobson delivered strong words to President Barack Obama, who was not in attendance, over his administration’s position on abortion, calling Obama the “abortion president.”

“When the ranting and rambling started about Planned Parenthood, I was like, ‘Are you kidding me?’ ” Hahn said in a telephone interview with the Los Angeles News Group later in the day. “So I stood up and shouted, ‘This is completely inappropriate for the National Day of Prayer’ and stormed out.”





Read more: http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20140501/janice-hahn-storms-out-of-national-day-of-prayer-gathering-over-james-dobsons-abortion-rant

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Janice Hahn storms out of National Day of Prayer gathering over James Dobson’s abortion ‘rant’ (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2014 OP
Good for her! The guy is a hateful ass. n/t woodsprite May 2014 #1
WTF is Dobson doing there anyway? TreasonousBastard May 2014 #2
Preaching to his choir, and making bucks while doing it JHB May 2014 #7
Got it-- I should have known... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #22
I also think that a national day of prayer is completely inappropriate. trusty elf May 2014 #3
Me too. TxDemChem May 2014 #6
Agree 100% pure BS Exposethefrauds May 2014 #11
SPOT ON! nt Plucketeer May 2014 #20
You lie down with dogs, you get fleas skepticscott May 2014 #4
Dobson prime suspect for IRS revoking all tax write off for his "religious" organization. nt kelliekat44 May 2014 #5
Would be long past time JHB May 2014 #8
That Dobson... shenmue May 2014 #9
i realize reason is out of the question, but it's Dobson & extremists who are the abortion people SleeplessinSoCal May 2014 #10
Really? What the hell did she expect? Le Taz Hot May 2014 #12
Exactly. It's not as if Dobson doesn't have an infamous track record. (nt) Paladin May 2014 #19
EXCELLENT!! It's about time this cozy little 'National Day of Prayer' crap Nay May 2014 #13
Dobson is a loon. Archae May 2014 #14
The same thing happened at "The National Day of Reason" assembly. progressoid May 2014 #15
I suspect TNNurse May 2014 #16
Who does she think she's fooling, she willingly showed up to bow to an infamous misogynist and bigot Bluenorthwest May 2014 #17
Janice Hahn 'I was told there would only be raging anti gay rhetoric of the sort Dobson is famous Bluenorthwest May 2014 #18
may we all show that kind of courage dembotoz May 2014 #21
You are SPOT on! SoapBox May 2014 #23
Sorry, but the real courage skepticscott May 2014 #24
sometimes events are hijacked dembotoz May 2014 #26
This event was hijacked from Day One skepticscott May 2014 #28
He was blasphemous and coarse when I saw him years ago adored by a crowd of women on CSPAN. freshwest May 2014 #25
Good! BigDemVoter May 2014 #27

JHB

(37,154 posts)
7. Preaching to his choir, and making bucks while doing it
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:04 AM
May 2014

Last edited Fri May 2, 2014, 10:08 AM - Edit history (1)

There have been occasional ad hoc DOP's since colonial times, but it was religious conservatives that made it a regular thing in the 1950's (y'know, back in McCarthy's heyday. Who in politics would stick their neck out and get called "godless commie!" by opposing it, for effectively no gain?)

Evangelicals in particular made it a rallying point in the 80s. In 1983 they founded the National Day of Prayer Task Force to coordinate events and activities. Dobson in particular has extremely strong ties to the NDPTF:

The National Day of Prayer Task Force (NDP Task Force) is an American evangelical conservative Christian non-profit organization which organizes, coordinates, and presides over Evangelical Christian religious observances each year on the National Day of Prayer.

Mrs. Shirley Dobson, whose husband is James Dobson, an evangelical conservative Christian author and the founder of the politically conservative evangelical Christian organization Focus on the Family, has been Chairwoman of the NDP Task Force since 1991.[1]

***
The headquarters of the NDP Task Force is in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Offices were located at Focus on the Family until 2009. The website of the NDP Task Force states that “its business affairs remained separate” from those of Focus on the Family, but also that “between 1990 and 1993, Focus on the Family did provide grants in support of the NDP Task Force” and that “Focus on the Family was compensated for services rendered.” [4]


Let's review, kiddies:
1) NDP provides a "nonpartisan" opportunity for Dobson and other evangelicals to push their version of religion.
2) Promoting it was (maybe still is) a money-maker for Dobson.
 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
11. Agree 100% pure BS
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:41 AM
May 2014

Things like this make me want to be POTUS so I could stop all government involvement in the event for at least my term but forever would be better


 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
4. You lie down with dogs, you get fleas
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:08 AM
May 2014

Is Hahn really that clueless about what the National Day of Prayer is all about? How can it possibly surprise her that it's infested with right wings fundy wackos?

JHB

(37,154 posts)
8. Would be long past time
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:16 AM
May 2014

From an article by Gil Alexander-Moegerle, Dobson's original co-host for the Focus on the Family radio program:

Consider the story of two book publishing companies, Focus on the Family, Incorporate(;, and Word, Incorporated, one of the largest publishing houses serving the conservative Protestant world. Both solicit, sign, publish, and pay authors for manuscripts and then publish and sell those books in commercial bookstores, making a profit in the process. Both solicit manuscripts from exactly the same pool of author-- those written by conservative Christians on subjects that would be considered of religious or spiritual help to the reader. Both produce books for sale in exactly the same bookstores. Both advertise and promote. Both enjoy revenue from such sales. However, one of these companies does all the above and pays its fair share of taxes while the other insists that it should not have to pay taxes and does not do so. This second business claims that it has a right as a 501(c)3 to opt out of its share of taxes but still uses the government services that taxes pay for. Why? What is the difference between Focus and Word with regard to the book publishing enterprises of each? Is one a national treasure like the Grand Canyon that we've all decided to preserve and subsidize while Word is on its own to sink or swim in the great competitive marketplace? Are we, as American taxpayers, interested in digging a little deeper into our pockets when our tax bill arrives in order to support the publishing efforts of Focus on the Family, all the while discriminating against the equally valuable work done by Word by not subsidizing their enterprise?

***

Christopher Chang, a member of the staff of the city of Pomona, California, office of economic development supplied me with a report analyzing the precise impact on that city of the loss of property taxes, not to mention other taxes levied on normal businesses, when Focus on the Family was occupying office space in Pomona several years ago but not paying taxes. The report shows that Focus owned property with a valuation of $5,115,660, on which the property taxes during their three-year stay in Pomona would have totaled approximately $150,000. An estimated $150,000 in city services were used, but were not paid for by Focus on the Family. So who paid them?

The median annual household income in Pomona was $31,000 when Focus was located there. Pomona's population was 75 percent minorities. So minority families trying to survive in the Los Angeles area on $31,000 a year were given no choice but to pitch in a little extra so millionaire businessman Dobson, who lived twenty miles away in an upper-class white neighborhood, didn't have to pay any property taxes. Focus has not been able to sell its Pomona headquarters building since leaving town for Colorado in 1991. So that piece of property is still off the tax rolls to this day, and those neighbors are still paying for the street light in front of the vacant complex at 801 Corporate Center Drive. We can do better than that.

***

Another specific problem that our experience with Dobson highlights is the ability of so-called religious organizations to defy the standards of fair employment practices our society has established: to invade the privacy of a company's employees, to coerce them unfairly with threats of termination, to breach even internal company policy, and to obstruct justice and block all avenues to due process when employment grievances arise all in the name of religion, Surely we can provide American workers a fairer workplace than that.
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/fofcult4.htm

That last part is especially important to highlight in a world with the Hobby-Lobby case going to the Supreme Court.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,082 posts)
10. i realize reason is out of the question, but it's Dobson & extremists who are the abortion people
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:20 AM
May 2014

They turned regular forms of contraception into "abortion". Fact is contraception protects women from unwanted pregancy and potential abortion.

Dobson is the problem.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
12. Really? What the hell did she expect?
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:17 AM
May 2014

If it's fundamentalist, it's misogyny and homophobia. And she's shocked?

Nay

(12,051 posts)
13. EXCELLENT!! It's about time this cozy little 'National Day of Prayer' crap
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:27 AM
May 2014

is shown up for what it really is -- a meeting sponsored by that shadowy, creepy bunch called "The Family." And good for Hahn for storming out and calling them out. There's still hope for this country.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
16. I suspect
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:38 AM
May 2014

That millions of Americans would not be welcome at this "National Day of Prayer".

They only pray for certain people, they wish pain and suffering on others. They are pseudo-Christians and unfortunately are not smart enough to know it. Very scary.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. Who does she think she's fooling, she willingly showed up to bow to an infamous misogynist and bigot
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:38 AM
May 2014

at an event organized by the bigot's wife. Hahn should not have been there at all, no decent person would be. To attend such events is to endorse horrific hate and homophobia. Janis Hahn should resign, go home, stop pretending to have a beating heart and admit she's a Republican.
I am so sick of these politicians who are so happy to sit with monsters year after year. She did not object to the bigotry, just to political comments about Obama. So insulting, she might as well BE Dobson.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. Janice Hahn 'I was told there would only be raging anti gay rhetoric of the sort Dobson is famous
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:42 AM
May 2014

for, so when he got partisan that was deeply offensive to me. Why he could not stick with the ranting against gays I do not know, but I made a scene and next time Dobson will know to stay with the anti gay materials all Washington holds so dear.'

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
21. may we all show that kind of courage
Fri May 2, 2014, 09:47 AM
May 2014

we tend to be too polite

we saw occupy movement--we smiled and did nothing

we saw wendy davis --she receives no help from dem govs

in wisconsin -a dem candidate for gov wants to hand out kkk hoods outside the gop party convention --the state dem party is throwing a royal fit.

the bible says the meek shall inherit the earth-but i am not counting on that in my lifetime

i am just getting more and more fed up

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
24. Sorry, but the real courage
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:52 PM
May 2014

would have been to not attend and lend support to this right wing farce in the first place.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
26. sometimes events are hijacked
Fri May 2, 2014, 05:16 PM
May 2014

i attend a mens prayer breakfast from time to time at a local church

it is a good group

i would attend more often but it is not at my church and at times i hear of the event after it has taken place.

guess i should switch churches.....

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
28. This event was hijacked from Day One
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:50 PM
May 2014

And Hahn would have had to be very dense not to have known that. It has no other purpose than to let conservative politicians show off to their brain-dead rabble how pious and god-fearin' they are, and to promote the notion of America as a Xstian nation.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. He was blasphemous and coarse when I saw him years ago adored by a crowd of women on CSPAN.
Fri May 2, 2014, 03:04 PM
May 2014

Last edited Fri May 2, 2014, 04:14 PM - Edit history (3)

They doted on his every word, and he overcame what I feel would be natural disgust as he bragged about shooting a bear that he saw in the morning eating berries outside a cabin he'd rented for a vacation.

The bear was not a threat, just because he had a gun and it was in range and it was his right to kill it. He made it plain that anyone who didn't like it just could fuck off. And the women looked at him, their eyes all showingi admiration. That is RW religions's version of manliness, just shoot and insult anyone who dares to comment in any other way than enthusiastic approval.

Then there were several times other Republicans had their meetings covered on CSPAN where they did such stunts as pretending to have God on the other end of a cellphone and telling him how they were going to stop the Democrats, and alleging God was giving His approval and instructing them to do more on the other end, that He was listening to their corny routine. It was full of 'Yes, Sir, we'll get right on that, yes, we will.' I never forgot those shows, they were utterly disgusting. The cupidity of these people is not only amazing, it's very dangerous.

Here's some on Dobson and his ilk:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/people/ryan-dobson

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2005/spring/a-mighty-army

Read the horror in the minds of these people. It's why I told a friend and her BF, and she is churched and he is not, that I can't feel comfortable in any church anymore. This stuff will pop up eventually. This is a cancer eating the minds of this nation.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
27. Good!
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:29 PM
May 2014

Why are those Shit Sacks even invited anyway?

Kind of like that old fossilized fraud, Billy Graham, who was continually invited year after year after year after year. . . Despite the fact that he was caught RED HANDED viciously & maliciously demeaning Jewish citizens with "I'm Not a Crook, Tricky Dick."

All of those hateful assholes need to be banned from speaking at any kind of "national" anything. It gives them a free podium to broadcast their SHIT, and none of the rest of us should be forced to listen to their uneducated fuckery. . .

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