Sheriff: FBI is investigating law enforcement threats in Bundy showdown

[struggle4progress]

Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal

By JEFF GERMAN
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL

FBI agents have opened a criminal investigation into the April 12 confrontation between Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy and his armed supporters and law enforcement authorities, Sheriff Doug Gillespie confirmed Thursday ...

He said agents expected to interview every law enforcement officer who was present during the April 12 standoff. That includes agents with the U.S. Bureau of Land Management and a slew of Las Vegas police officers who were there to keep the peace.

Among those interviewed within the past week was Assistant Sheriff Joe Lombardo, who was in charge of police officers during the disturbance.

The FBI investigation, Gillespie said, is in its early stages ...

Read more: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/sheriff-fbi-investigating-law-enforcement-threats-bundy-showdown

[onehandle]

1. Round up these domestic terrorists who promised to use women as human shields.

Round up Sean Hannity/Fox News idiots, and elected Republicans who backed these lawbreakers.

Throw them in federal prison.

GOPNRAteahadists have a lot in common with Al Qaeda.

[A Simple Game]

10. Now, now, the Republicans don't want terrorists in federal prisons,

at least not one's on the mainland. We have a special place for them. Gua, Gwan, Go... You know, somewhere below Florida I think?

I hear it's a nice place, the prisoners get lots of sunshine and fruit.

[Quixote1818]

34. They didn't just promise to use women they USED both women and children up front with the men behind

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Listen to the officer in this video: Official:

[struggle4progress]

2. FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute

Posted: Thursday, May 8, 2014 6:52 PM EDT Updated: Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:47 PM EDT
By George Knapp, Chief Investigative Reporter

... The 8 News NOW I-Team ... has confirmed that FBI agents have launched a formal investigation into alleged death threats, intimidation and possible weapons violations that culminated with a dangerous showdown on April 12, and the first people to be interviewed by FBI agents are Metro Police, starting with Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillispie ...

"The federal authorities are conducting an investigation and I am pretty confident it is going to go into the future," Lombardo said.

&quot Would there be consequences for somebody there on video tape, on a news camera pointing a gun at a Metro officer, pointing a gun at a federal ranger?) Yes, there is definitely going to be consequences, definitely. That is unacceptable behavior. If we let it go, it would continue into the future," Lombardo said ...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25469579/breaking-news-fbi-investigating-bundy-supporters-in-blm-dispute

[Snotcicles]

3. It might be early but I kinda feel like this is a cool thing. nt

[struggle4progress]

8. The Crazies may really be in deeper than they think

[Snotcicles]

15. As Ralph Kramden would say. ha, hamin, hamin'a nt

[freshwest]

26. I want all the fools playing sniper in the third picture in jail. No excuse. n/t

[struggle4progress]

4. FBI Investigating Bundy Supporters Actions

Posted: Thu 6:17 PM, May 08, 2014

... Bundy supporters have denied pointing weapons at authorities and say that BLM rangers were the ones pointing guns ...

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/Bundy-Supporters-In-Question-By-FBI-258563641.html

[csziggy]

6. So who was this guy pointing his weapon at?

Protester Eric Parker from central Idaho aims his weapon from a bridge next to the Bureau of Land Management’s base camp where seized cattle that belonged to rancher Cliven Bundy are being held near Bunkerville, Nev. April 12, 2014. U.S. officials ended a stand-off with hundreds of armed protesters in the Nevada desert on Saturday, calling off the government’s roundup of cattle it said were illegally grazing on federal land and giving about 300 animals back to rancher Bundy who owned them.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/bundy-ranch-standoff-nevada-jerry-delemus-2014-4

[struggle4progress]

9. I suspect the FBI will want to ask Mr Parker that question

[freshwest]

27. Pretty damn obvious from the description. I want him in jail. n/t

[StarryNite]

42. I'm sure he'll say

he was just plinking at cans.

[SunSeeker]

19. What matters is he was pointing a gun at SOMEBODY, and it certainly was not in self defense.

That cretin should be in jail.

[PatrickforO]

23. My, Eric certainly has a big gun...

It probably shoots lots of bullets really fast.

Eric needs to be arrested for threatening law enforcement officials and others with a deadly weapon.

[freshwest]

28. And not in the heat of gunfire, but ambushing them.

[steve2470]

31. so glad this asshole is now ID'ed

Hopefully he will be sitting in prison sooner than later. If this man were black, he'd be UNDER the jail by now or dead.

[Cryptoad]

7. Have you noticed that

every sniper had a unarmed women with them ,,,,,,,,,

[freshwest]

29. They didn't have their NRA convention dummies with them, had to have a body for cover. Warning:

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Graphic Picture at the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022810234

They also sold dummies that looked like Obama. All with packets to 'bleed' like blood. You can't convince me these knuckledraggers aren't just itching to kill someone, they are mentally preparing for it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002894485

[jwirr]

39. Groupies.

[dem in texas]

11. Grown Men Playing GI Joe

But - someone is going to end up being killed - for real.

[Thinkingabout]

12. It would be interesting to investigate how many of the militia is on disability. If they are

able to hang out on our federal roads with guns for several days then they are able to have a job to support them. Get off of the backs of others, go to your fellow anti-gubermint friends and let them support each other.

[Hekate]

24. Some of them are whining online that they've lost their jobs. And wives. My heart bleeds, I tell you

Read it here several days ago, sorry no link.

[freshwest]

30. They won't lose their disability checks. We're more humane than them. n/t

[Thinkingabout]

32. I don't think they have staffing agents where they have lined up and doubt there will be any lining

up there. I feel badly for those who have lost their jobs but unless the story the Koch brothers paying them is not a rumor then I guess they can add Bundy Militia to their resume.

[joe_stampingbull]

13. about time

these FOX sponsored terrorists were all rounded and sent to Guamtanamo

[central scrutinizer]

14. The latest reincarnation of the "wise use" zealots

Long history of anti government actions

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Lock those fuckers up

If they fail to comply, use whatever necessary force.

[mountain grammy]

17. Meantime, in NYC, a young woman exercising her rights to protest, faces jail for elbowing a cop..

who assaulted her. Does anybody see how completely and utterly insane this is? I swear, sometimes I wonder if I've stumbled into some Twilight Zone episode.

[struggle4progress]

21. The jury decided the prosecution had proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt,

based on the evidence presented to it. And (BTW) McMillan's testimony was that she did not remember very much of that day, that she was actually drinking with a friend to celebrate St Patrick's day, and that she was not protesting at the park. The prosecution OTOH provided evidence from several medical exams to support its theory that the bruises on McMillan's chest were caused by some event several days after her arrest and produced a video that seems to show McMillan running through the crowd and then jumping and turning to elbow the man in the face before being taken to the ground several steps later. So there were competing narratives here. Since I wasn't on the jury and didn't see the case presented, I don't know what persuaded the jury. But as McMillan testified she was drinking, and as both sides agreed the officer got elbowed in the eye, my impression of the video is that it really might show a drunken jerk running through the crowd to clock a cop

The cases are entirely unrelated. One involves kooks in NYC, one of the more densely populated portions of the US, facing off against city police, with a drunk woman, who claims not to have been involved in any protest that night, convicted of assaulting an NYPD blue. The other involves an armed standoff two years later between kooks and the BLM in Bunkerville, one of the less densely populated portions of the US, over thousand miles from Zuccotti Park, when the BLM (following two decades of litigation) sought to enforce a court order after posting a Federal Register notice. It is true that McMillan's supporters claim (somewhat incoherently) she was a nonviolent protester reflexively protecting herself and that the Bunkerville kooks are similarly claiming they were brutalized by the BLM, but such similarities simply reflect the kookiness of American culture. The cases are widely separated in time, place, ideology, and jurisdiction

[heaven05]

33. kookiness? I say the total

use of american 'freedoms' to terrorize, using insane and potentially dangerous RW/teahadist ideolgy in which, if this continues, will cause violent death for any and all involved in the shootout. And Hannity will be on the air spewing his racist hate along with limpdick. Wonder why zimpig is not at that ranch. He'd get a chance to shoot at black BLM agents. Oh he'll probably show up soon. True on the time, place, ideology and jurisdiction.

[catnhatnh]

36. Please show links...

for video and the medical reports testimony.

[struggle4progress]

43. Here are some links

... Cecily McMillan told the jury she had been out drinking green beer for St. Patrick’s Day on March 17, 2012, and she doesn’t remember much of what happened that day. But the 25-year-old claimed she went to Zuccotti Park to meet a friend, not to join the protest ...

... McMillan claimed that she swung her arm back instinctively only after having one of her breasts grabbed from behind while she was walking out of the park ... McMillan said that she had “no memory” of the moment her elbow struck Bovell ...

... When Officer Bovell entered the park with dozens of his colleagues, he said, he saw a young woman in the crowd, flailing her arms and shouting curses at a female officer. Officer Bovell approached the shouting woman and, he testified Monday, calmly tried to inform her that she had to leave the park, which, he added, was scheduled for a cleaning. He said he told her that she was “more than welcome” to return after the cleaning was done ... Officer Bovell said that as he tried to escort the woman, Cecily McMillan, from the park, she whirled around and her elbow hit him — “pretty hard,” he put it — in the eye. Ms. McMillan, who has been charged with assault, said it was an accident. She contends that she unintentionally struck Officer Bovell after he accosted her from behind, grabbing her right breast ... “As I’m walking her out,” Officer Bovell testified, “I remember her saying to someone: ‘Are you filming this? Are you filming this?’ Then I remember the defendant crouching down and lunging with her elbow and hitting me in the eye” ...

... Choi also challenged McMillan's recollection of the event, and noted how, while on the witness stand, McMillan remembered where she went that day, what she ate, what she drank, and what she wore - but doesn't remember throwing the elbow. "She remembered everything - except when she committed a crime" of assaulting a police officer, Choi said. "How convenient for her" ...

... At trial, the jury saw the incident in grainy video footage ...

... Four different doctors never once diagnosed the seizure an Occupy Wall Street protester claims to have suffered after she was arrested on a felony charge of assaulting an officer, she admitted on the stand Wednesday. Cecily McMillan also conceded that her medical records do not mention a hand-sized bruise on her breast ... During cross-examination by Assistant District Attorney Erin Choi on Wednesday, the 25-year-old McMillan said she had never filed a formal complaint with the department about Bovell's treatment of her ... Choi, the prosecutor, emphasized that nowhere in records from doctors, a social worker or a psychologist who treated McMillan in the hours after her arrest is there an allegation that a police officer grabbed McMillan's breast ...

... If McMillan was truly grabbed, Choi said, the young woman would have reported it right away. She pointed out that she spoke to a social worker and a psychiatrist in the hospital after she was arrested, and didn't mention the incident to either of them ... The prosecution's case had also relied heavily on McMillan's medical records, which did not mention a bruise on her breast ... McMillan also told one doctor shortly after the arrest that she wasn't in serious pain ... "This defendant is not reliable and cannot keep her story straight," Choi said. She added that the first time McMillan's bruised breast was noted by a doctor was three days after the incident, when McMillan saw her own doctor at the Institute of Family Health ...

[lark]

41. I wouldn't deem OWS protestors as kooks.

They are non-violent, did our country a favor by highlighting income inequality and different treatment for the 1% vs. the 99% and are still doing good deeds via their OccuyMortgages project. Those Bundy supporting people in NV - kooks all the way!!

[savalez]

18. Start by arresting that assh#le on the bridge overpass. n/t

[arely staircase]

20. ah when the real world comes crashing down

In this case FBI agents, federal grand juries, laws and such. But of course those don't exist so nothing to worry about.

[PatrickforO]

22. Good!

Bundy is little more than a parasite, but these 'militia' are nothing but lawless, anarchistic thugs. If we want to live under the rule of law, this cannot be allowed.

[Hekate]

25. 'Bout time.

[JJMacNab]

35. The use of women and children as human shields

I discussed this in my second article on the Bundy standoff - be sure to click on the video links. My fourth article in the series will have some information that hasn't been in the news yet, and will post on Forbes in a couple of hours.

Here are the links to the various articles:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jjmacnab/2014/04/30/context-matters-the-cliven-bundy-standoff-part-1/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jjmacnab/2014/05/02/context-matters-the-cliven-bundy-standoff-part-2/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jjmacnab/2014/05/06/context-matters-the-cliven-bundy-standoff-part-3/

[Trajan]

37. Welcome to DU

Very well written articles ... good to have you aboard ...

[JJMacNab]

38. Thank you Trajan.

[freshwest]

40. Thank you for posting a thoughtful and informed article here. Much appreciated.

[Sunlei]

44. This issue is spill-over from Nevada/Utah's efforts to take all our public lands away.

The FBI better be harsh & quick over any crimes committed or we'll be back in the days of the wild west.

Where the sight of any Federal management of OUR public lands will be met with the armed Mormon cults that live off our public lands in those remote areas.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

45. About damned time