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TexasTowelie

(112,142 posts)
Sat May 31, 2014, 06:31 PM May 2014

Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit

Source: AP

NEW ORLEANS —

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has won the latest 2016 presidential straw poll at a conservative summit in Louisiana.

Cruz took 30 percent of the vote at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans. He edged out conservative speaker and author Ben Carson.

Organizers at the annual conference say about a third out of 1,500 delegates voted in the straw poll. Delegates had to pay to register for the conference and vote in the straw poll.

Cruz promised delegates Saturday to continue his uncompromising approach on Capitol Hill.

Read more: http://www.statesman.com/news/ap/top-news/cruz-wins-presidential-straw-poll-at-gop-summit/ngBSs/



Carson did not speak at the summit. My only question is who let Cruz keep his passport when he was overseas this week?
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Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit (Original Post) TexasTowelie May 2014 OP
That headline made me laugh right out loud. LOL! Yes, please nominate him, GOP, please. Demit May 2014 #1
And they paid for the privilege to vote for him! TexasTowelie May 2014 #2
And if the Democratic candidates plane crashes two weeks before the election, A Simple Game May 2014 #16
Oh yes indeedy. I think we have a deeper bench. Demit May 2014 #22
Two weeks from the election the bench probably doesn't matter anymore. A Simple Game Jun 2014 #45
Have it your way. Demit Jun 2014 #46
And wishing Ted Cruz to have a 50-50 chance to be President isn't peculiar? A Simple Game Jun 2014 #47
You are very argumentative. Demit Jun 2014 #48
If I wished Ted Cruz on you would you be happy? A Simple Game Jun 2014 #51
Oh! SoapBox May 2014 #3
That's pathetic. Solly Mack May 2014 #4
Well he possess wonderful family values.. busterbrown May 2014 #5
LMAO! Thank you! Solly Mack May 2014 #6
Excellent. Kingofalldems May 2014 #7
Great News Roy Rolling May 2014 #8
May I congratulate President Clinton. Good luck to her. Jack Rabbit May 2014 #9
Have to agree Android3.14 May 2014 #10
I hope you appreciate how hard it was for me to type that . . . Jack Rabbit May 2014 #11
I think I do Android3.14 May 2014 #12
I just can't see the Republicans being quite that stupid. They're close...but not quite there yet. StevieM May 2014 #23
I'd like to see her version of this: freshwest Jun 2014 #42
Please! Please! Let him win the Republican Nomination dem in texas May 2014 #13
Oh my goodness oldandhappy May 2014 #14
Too good to be true? NastyRiffraff May 2014 #15
LOL. (nt) pinto May 2014 #17
Ted Cruz Can't Be President Wolf Frankula May 2014 #18
+1 area51 Jun 2014 #39
Certainly he can, and it's a bad idea for our side to spread such silliness. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #56
The right wingers know they are wrong too treestar Jun 2014 #58
You give the right wingers more credit for intellect than I do. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #60
I understand your point but I don't think it's a tactical mistake. mac56 Jun 2014 #64
What a pathetic, sorry bunch. mountain grammy May 2014 #19
So...they want Ted Cruz to be President of the Straws? Ken Burch May 2014 #20
Just the short straw. Blue Owl May 2014 #21
Didn't bachmann win it last year? Those rw straw voters in Iowa sure have Cha May 2014 #24
She won the Iowa in 2011 for the 2012 election stuff... titaniumsalute May 2014 #29
Oh right.. "last year".. meaning Cha May 2014 #35
How Wonderful! n/t TygrBright May 2014 #25
Carnival Cruz is more laughable than Mitt Romeny Skittles May 2014 #26
The birther party wants Texas's Canadian Senator for president. jwirr May 2014 #27
Meaningless titaniumsalute May 2014 #28
Was that for President of Canada? LynneSin May 2014 #30
That only matters.... abakan Jun 2014 #55
How much do these people hate America? JeffHead May 2014 #31
The Canadian Born Ted Cruz krobar659 May 2014 #32
Since when............ MyOwnPeace May 2014 #33
Exactly. Some of the fancier birther arguments treestar Jun 2014 #59
Destroying America To Build A Better Hard Right Theocracy! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #34
Fruitloop walkingman Jun 2014 #36
Nice to know that they're still going with stupid and crazy. 6000eliot Jun 2014 #37
The straw poll winner seems to be one of the first to drop out davidpdx Jun 2014 #38
that is because the straw poll winner is a straw man olddad56 Jun 2014 #49
Capt. Rafael Eduardo Cruz bearssoapbox Jun 2014 #40
Surprising really Turbineguy Jun 2014 #41
Paying to vote GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #43
Oh I hope so, oh I hope so........... Swede Atlanta Jun 2014 #44
Ted Cruz would be the kind of president seen in Idiocracy. Helen Borg Jun 2014 #50
nice!!! I say all democrats, progressives and liberals need to beachbum bob Jun 2014 #52
I Wonder if he was travelling on a US or Canadian passport? dballance Jun 2014 #53
Hurrah!! Scurrilous Jun 2014 #54
Now what was that about the GOP 'establishment' wresting control from the Tea Baggers???? LongTomH Jun 2014 #57
The gods cannot possibly be that good. Arkana Jun 2014 #61
It would be difficult to lose to Ted Cruz in a national election yurbud Jun 2014 #62
"He (Cruz) edged out conservative speaker and author Ben Carson." yellowcanine Jun 2014 #63
The Cruz as the Republican nominee? Beacool Jun 2014 #65

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
16. And if the Democratic candidates plane crashes two weeks before the election,
Sat May 31, 2014, 07:31 PM
May 2014

do you still want Cruz to be the Republican candidate.

I want and would hope the Republicans would nominate their best candidate, I can remember when we actually had to study the candidates to figure out which one was best, but then I'm old.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
22. Oh yes indeedy. I think we have a deeper bench.
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:38 PM
May 2014

I think the Republicans will be figuring out who is their least worst candidate.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
45. Two weeks from the election the bench probably doesn't matter anymore.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 09:57 AM
Jun 2014

A new candidate can be nominated but in hurry up politics who gets the nomination could be scary. The Republicans supposedly would use a hurry up convention and the Democrats would let the DNC nominate someone but the method used is not really known. In either case it probably would be hard to play catch up. If the tragedy were to happen less than two weeks out then probably you would be stuck with the Vice Presidential candidate.

I always hope for the best candidates to run, you never know they may win. A good Republican may not be as good as a bad Democrat but is still better than a bad Republican.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
46. Have it your way.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jun 2014

Although I would say that, if you're devising a Plan B in case your candidate dies just before the election, hoping the other side is running a strong opponent is a peculiar way to go about it.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
47. And wishing Ted Cruz to have a 50-50 chance to be President isn't peculiar?
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:23 AM
Jun 2014

To each his own. There are people that would vote for him, some enthusiastically.

Say this out loud, "I wish one of my choices for President to be Ted Cruz." How does that sound to you? If I told you how it sounded to me my post would probably get hidden.

But you're right, have it your way, I can't stop you for wanting the candidates you want.

As for what I hope for; I hope the worse candidate isn't horrible. If I have to have the worse candidate I would certainly hope for an Eisenhower or a Ford instead of a Cruz, but that is just me. Your preferences may vary.

Oh, Oh, I have an idea! Let's hope that stupid Bush guy runs against Gore, Gore will slaughter him! It won't even be close. Yeah, that worked out pretty well didn't it?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
51. If I wished Ted Cruz on you would you be happy?
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 12:03 PM
Jun 2014

If you can't understand the logic there's no sense in continuing this conversation.

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
8. Great News
Sat May 31, 2014, 06:55 PM
May 2014

This follows in the footsteps of 2012 President pretender Michelle Bachmann winning the Iowa Caucuses.

I mean, really. It could not be more obvious than if they were to officially rename their clan "The Stupid Party".

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
23. I just can't see the Republicans being quite that stupid. They're close...but not quite there yet.
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:40 PM
May 2014

I think they may be crazy enough to nominate Rand Paul. But Ted Cruz seems a bridge too far.

I actually think it will come down to Huckabee and Jeb Bush.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
13. Please! Please! Let him win the Republican Nomination
Sat May 31, 2014, 07:26 PM
May 2014

Proves what nut cases the Republicans have become, that they would even consider such a sorry person. Hello, President Hillary Clinton!

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
18. Ted Cruz Can't Be President
Sat May 31, 2014, 07:35 PM
May 2014

He's not an American citizen. He shouldn't be even a senator.

And what's a Ben Carson?

Wolf

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
56. Certainly he can, and it's a bad idea for our side to spread such silliness.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jun 2014

Under the law as it stood when Cruz and Obama were born, a person born outside the United States, to one citizen parent and one noncitizen parent, would automatically be a U.S. citizen at birth, provided that the citizen parent met certain residency requirements. It's virtually certain that Cruz's mother, a U.S. citizen, met those requirements, although producing documentary evidence all these decades later might be difficult.

Incidentally, it is certain -- no "virtually" hedging needed -- that Obama's mother did not meet those requirements. Therefore, the birthers, demented though they be, are at least not being inconsistent. If you believe that Obama was born in Kenya and that Cruz was born in Canada, the most sensible conclusion from those premises is that Obama was ineligible but that Cruz is eligible.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
58. The right wingers know they are wrong too
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:55 PM
Jun 2014

I don't think we are serious when we say that, but we should get to say it and make right wingers hear their hypocrisy.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
60. You give the right wingers more credit for intellect than I do.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jun 2014

Remember, these are people who, in many instances (according to polls in which they report their own views), don't believe in evolution but do believe that ACORN stole the 2012 election for Obama, some years after ACORN had ceased to exist. Far from knowing they're wrong, they sincerely believe that Obama was born in Kenya.

You want to make them hear their hypocrisy? A noble objective, but my money is on their being deaf.

Beyond that, I think it's a tactical mistake for us to make the debate about Cruz center on his eligibility. That's a debate we'll lose (and will deserve to lose). Its only practical effect is to distract people from the serious reasons to be horrified at the prospect of a Cruz victory.

mac56

(17,566 posts)
64. I understand your point but I don't think it's a tactical mistake.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jun 2014

I think it's quite possible to multitask: point out Cruz's many shortcomings, AND bring up his eligibility at every turn.

Cha

(297,175 posts)
35. Oh right.. "last year".. meaning
Sat May 31, 2014, 11:30 PM
May 2014

two years ago!

Yeah, may cruz follow in Bachmann's esteemed footsteps. As in "steaming" pile. lol

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
30. Was that for President of Canada?
Sat May 31, 2014, 09:37 PM
May 2014

Since he was not born in the United States he cannot run (was born in Canada)

abakan

(1,819 posts)
55. That only matters....
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jun 2014

If you're a black democrat born in Hawaii.. Otherwise the repubs will find a work around like taking it to the republican supreme court.

krobar659

(35 posts)
32. The Canadian Born Ted Cruz
Sat May 31, 2014, 09:55 PM
May 2014

Did you know that his father is from the communist country Cuba? So if we use the same logic that the gop birthers used when discussing President Obama's Muslim Father from Kenya, does this make the Canadian Born Ted Cruz a communist? That was the first thing that came to my mind when I seen the Canadian birth certificate of Ted Cruz. Rafael Edward Cruz --was born in Canada in 1970. He is not a " a natural born citizen" and therefore is not eligible to run for president.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
59. Exactly. Some of the fancier birther arguments
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:58 PM
Jun 2014

had to do with President Obama's father being born a British citizen and Obama therefore owing allegiance to the British crown. Those same people are flat out hypocrites if they fail to admit that under their own logic, Cruz owes loyalty to Castro, and Canada and the Queen.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
34. Destroying America To Build A Better Hard Right Theocracy!
Sat May 31, 2014, 11:27 PM
May 2014
Burqas For Everybody!

Death to the Gays!

Bankrupting America. This Time, We Really Mean It!

You Don't Need No Stinkin' Democracy!

We're The False Prophets The Bible Warned You About!


...all slogans the GOP can use in their 2016 Presidential run for the White House (whoever it is...)

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
38. The straw poll winner seems to be one of the first to drop out
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:40 AM
Jun 2014

Cruz may or may not run. I have this feeling that Carson maybe their guy. Granted a large portion of the Republican Party are racist MFs, but nominating him versus loosing with some guy like Cruz (or any other assclown) seems like a better bet. Carson might be able to draw some indies and Ds whereas Cruz wouldn't have much of a chance.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
44. Oh I hope so, oh I hope so...........
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 09:47 AM
Jun 2014

I would love to see the Republicans nominate Cruz and maybe put fellow Texan Gohmert or Floridian West on the ticket with him. I think they actually believe the reason they have lost the last two presidential elections is because their candidates were not conservative enough.

If they nominate Cruz or someone like him then any Democrat we put on the ticket has a strong chance of winning. The Democrat could still lose the election but not running an effective campaign but these extremists on the right are far too extreme for where the American electorate, writ large, is.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
52. nice!!! I say all democrats, progressives and liberals need to
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 12:04 PM
Jun 2014

push Cruz to the fore front as a general election would be a democratic landslide!!!

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
53. I Wonder if he was travelling on a US or Canadian passport?
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 12:08 PM
Jun 2014

Too bad that in either case it wasn't revoked while he was abroad so people could make the case he's a spy for the country in which he was at the time.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
65. The Cruz as the Republican nominee?
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jun 2014

The Democratic party thanks him, Hillary thanks him.......



Seriously, these kinds of straw polls are wishful thinking by the party's base.The winner seldom becomes the nominee.

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