Cruz wins presidential straw poll at GOP summit
Source: AP
NEW ORLEANS
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has won the latest 2016 presidential straw poll at a conservative summit in Louisiana.
Cruz took 30 percent of the vote at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans. He edged out conservative speaker and author Ben Carson.
Organizers at the annual conference say about a third out of 1,500 delegates voted in the straw poll. Delegates had to pay to register for the conference and vote in the straw poll.
Cruz promised delegates Saturday to continue his uncompromising approach on Capitol Hill.
Read more: http://www.statesman.com/news/ap/top-news/cruz-wins-presidential-straw-poll-at-gop-summit/ngBSs/
Carson did not speak at the summit. My only question is who let Cruz keep his passport when he was overseas this week?
Demit
(11,238 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,142 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)do you still want Cruz to be the Republican candidate.
I want and would hope the Republicans would nominate their best candidate, I can remember when we actually had to study the candidates to figure out which one was best, but then I'm old.
Demit
(11,238 posts)I think the Republicans will be figuring out who is their least worst candidate.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)A new candidate can be nominated but in hurry up politics who gets the nomination could be scary. The Republicans supposedly would use a hurry up convention and the Democrats would let the DNC nominate someone but the method used is not really known. In either case it probably would be hard to play catch up. If the tragedy were to happen less than two weeks out then probably you would be stuck with the Vice Presidential candidate.
I always hope for the best candidates to run, you never know they may win. A good Republican may not be as good as a bad Democrat but is still better than a bad Republican.
Demit
(11,238 posts)Although I would say that, if you're devising a Plan B in case your candidate dies just before the election, hoping the other side is running a strong opponent is a peculiar way to go about it.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)To each his own. There are people that would vote for him, some enthusiastically.
Say this out loud, "I wish one of my choices for President to be Ted Cruz." How does that sound to you? If I told you how it sounded to me my post would probably get hidden.
But you're right, have it your way, I can't stop you for wanting the candidates you want.
As for what I hope for; I hope the worse candidate isn't horrible. If I have to have the worse candidate I would certainly hope for an Eisenhower or a Ford instead of a Cruz, but that is just me. Your preferences may vary.
Oh, Oh, I have an idea! Let's hope that stupid Bush guy runs against Gore, Gore will slaughter him! It won't even be close. Yeah, that worked out pretty well didn't it?
Demit
(11,238 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)If you can't understand the logic there's no sense in continuing this conversation.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Absolutely no shame of their ignorance.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)And looks very Presidential.....
and what family lineage...
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)I needed that.
Kingofalldems
(38,452 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,915 posts)This follows in the footsteps of 2012 President pretender Michelle Bachmann winning the Iowa Caucuses.
I mean, really. It could not be more obvious than if they were to officially rename their clan "The Stupid Party".
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I hope Ted wins the primary.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)"How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!?"
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I think they may be crazy enough to nominate Rand Paul. But Ted Cruz seems a bridge too far.
I actually think it will come down to Huckabee and Jeb Bush.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)God, I love that pic...
dem in texas
(2,674 posts)Proves what nut cases the Republicans have become, that they would even consider such a sorry person. Hello, President Hillary Clinton!
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)He will be a LOUD candidate and Hillary will ambush him at every turn. Go Ted!
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)that they'd actually nominate him? Even Republicans can't be that stupid! oh wait...
pinto
(106,886 posts)Wolf Frankula
(3,600 posts)He's not an American citizen. He shouldn't be even a senator.
And what's a Ben Carson?
Wolf
Cruz was born in Canada, not eligible to be prez.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Under the law as it stood when Cruz and Obama were born, a person born outside the United States, to one citizen parent and one noncitizen parent, would automatically be a U.S. citizen at birth, provided that the citizen parent met certain residency requirements. It's virtually certain that Cruz's mother, a U.S. citizen, met those requirements, although producing documentary evidence all these decades later might be difficult.
Incidentally, it is certain -- no "virtually" hedging needed -- that Obama's mother did not meet those requirements. Therefore, the birthers, demented though they be, are at least not being inconsistent. If you believe that Obama was born in Kenya and that Cruz was born in Canada, the most sensible conclusion from those premises is that Obama was ineligible but that Cruz is eligible.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I don't think we are serious when we say that, but we should get to say it and make right wingers hear their hypocrisy.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Remember, these are people who, in many instances (according to polls in which they report their own views), don't believe in evolution but do believe that ACORN stole the 2012 election for Obama, some years after ACORN had ceased to exist. Far from knowing they're wrong, they sincerely believe that Obama was born in Kenya.
You want to make them hear their hypocrisy? A noble objective, but my money is on their being deaf.
Beyond that, I think it's a tactical mistake for us to make the debate about Cruz center on his eligibility. That's a debate we'll lose (and will deserve to lose). Its only practical effect is to distract people from the serious reasons to be horrified at the prospect of a Cruz victory.
mac56
(17,566 posts)I think it's quite possible to multitask: point out Cruz's many shortcomings, AND bring up his eligibility at every turn.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)Cha
(297,175 posts)the bar set high. Rofl.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)And look where that got her...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/13/finally-here-ames-straw-poll-first-test-2012/
Cha
(297,175 posts)two years ago!
Yeah, may cruz follow in Bachmann's esteemed footsteps. As in "steaming" pile. lol
TygrBright
(20,759 posts)Skittles
(153,150 posts)yup
jwirr
(39,215 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Michelle "Batshit insane" Bachmann won the Iowa GOP Straw Poll in 2011. How did she do in the 2012 elections?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/13/finally-here-ames-straw-poll-first-test-2012/
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Since he was not born in the United States he cannot run (was born in Canada)
abakan
(1,819 posts)If you're a black democrat born in Hawaii.. Otherwise the repubs will find a work around like taking it to the republican supreme court.
JeffHead
(1,186 posts)He's fucking Canadian!
krobar659
(35 posts)Did you know that his father is from the communist country Cuba? So if we use the same logic that the gop birthers used when discussing President Obama's Muslim Father from Kenya, does this make the Canadian Born Ted Cruz a communist? That was the first thing that came to my mind when I seen the Canadian birth certificate of Ted Cruz. Rafael Edward Cruz --was born in Canada in 1970. He is not a " a natural born citizen" and therefore is not eligible to run for president.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)do the Pugs let rules and laws stand in their way?
treestar
(82,383 posts)had to do with President Obama's father being born a British citizen and Obama therefore owing allegiance to the British crown. Those same people are flat out hypocrites if they fail to admit that under their own logic, Cruz owes loyalty to Castro, and Canada and the Queen.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Death to the Gays!
Bankrupting America. This Time, We Really Mean It!
You Don't Need No Stinkin' Democracy!
We're The False Prophets The Bible Warned You About!
...all slogans the GOP can use in their 2016 Presidential run for the White House (whoever it is...)
walkingman
(7,606 posts)6000eliot
(5,643 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Cruz may or may not run. I have this feeling that Carson maybe their guy. Granted a large portion of the Republican Party are racist MFs, but nominating him versus loosing with some guy like Cruz (or any other assclown) seems like a better bet. Carson might be able to draw some indies and Ds whereas Cruz wouldn't have much of a chance.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)Turbineguy
(37,322 posts)I didn't think he was crazy enough.
GeorgeGist
(25,320 posts)More freedumb!
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)I would love to see the Republicans nominate Cruz and maybe put fellow Texan Gohmert or Floridian West on the ticket with him. I think they actually believe the reason they have lost the last two presidential elections is because their candidates were not conservative enough.
If they nominate Cruz or someone like him then any Democrat we put on the ticket has a strong chance of winning. The Democrat could still lose the election but not running an effective campaign but these extremists on the right are far too extreme for where the American electorate, writ large, is.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)push Cruz to the fore front as a general election would be a democratic landslide!!!
dballance
(5,756 posts)Too bad that in either case it wasn't revoked while he was abroad so people could make the case he's a spy for the country in which he was at the time.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Hmmmm????
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Could they? No, no they couldn't possibly.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)but Dems would try anyway.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)The Democratic party thanks him, Hillary thanks him.......
Seriously, these kinds of straw polls are wishful thinking by the party's base.The winner seldom becomes the nominee.