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Stuart G

(38,688 posts)
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:33 PM Jul 2014

Federal Judge Says the Supreme Court Should Just 'STFU'

Source: Huffington Post

The Huffington Post | By Mollie Reilly
12:08 EDT

A federal judge thinks it's time for the Supreme Court to just "stfu."

Writing on his personal blog in response to the high court's recent 5-4 decision in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, U.S. District Judge Richard George Kopf harshly criticized the justices for taking what he sees as a too active role in controversial cases.

"This term and several past terms has proven that the Court is now causing more harm (division) to our democracy than good by deciding hot button cases that the Court has the power to avoid," Kopf, a George W. Bush appointee, wrote. "As the kids says, it is time for the Court to stfu."

Pointing out that all five justices who decided in favor of Hobby Lobby are Catholic males appointed by Republican presidents, Kopf argued that the decision "looks stupid and smells worse."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/07/supreme-court-stfu_n_5563997.html

No, I did not believe it either..but.....

These federal judges are "appointed for life"...like the idiot five on the Supreme Court..
They can say what they want, and not worry about controversy. That is why the founders did that.
Imagine that ...A federal judge going after the idiot five Supreme Court...!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Federal Judge Says the Supreme Court Should Just 'STFU' (Original Post) Stuart G Jul 2014 OP
kick & recommended. William769 Jul 2014 #1
Thank You mtasselin Jul 2014 #2
What religion is the most anti-contraception? HockeyMom Jul 2014 #3
+1 BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #11
Might be time for the time-tested reverse-Crusade. AAO Jul 2014 #13
Might as well ask which religion is the most anti-woman Demeter Jul 2014 #22
Let's get him nominated to take the place of some RWNJ on the court. Okay, doesn't work that way... freshwest Jul 2014 #4
He was appointed by George H. W. Bush WhoWoodaKnew Jul 2014 #5
Well intentioned but futile gesture blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #6
Good. I hope more judges speak out on these corrupt justices. mountain grammy Jul 2014 #7
Scalia and Thomas can't live forever.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #8
Scalia and Alito are the worst. AAO Jul 2014 #14
But iif there's a Republican President and Senate, they'll replace them with a newer model KinMd Jul 2014 #18
If you want to call this "new".... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #19
In spite of the fact Kopf was appointed by HW Bush PatrickforO Jul 2014 #9
The decision "looks stupid" : that's an understatement frazzled Jul 2014 #10
Scalia gives his position. AAO Jul 2014 #15
Sounds like Judge Kopf has a good head on his shoulders! KansDem Jul 2014 #12
Kicked and recommended! "The decision looks stupid and smells worse." Enthusiast Jul 2014 #16
Sometimes the Supreme Court is right to go after hot-button issues. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #17
Thank you, and very well put nolabels Jul 2014 #21
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #20
The decision not only looks stupid and makes 5 iemitsu Jul 2014 #23


(666 posts)
2. Thank You
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:49 PM
Jul 2014

Thank you Judge Kopf for saying what so many want to, but don't have the platform. The supreme court hears way to many cases I am sure that is not what the founding fathers envisioned when this country was being formed that you would have judges making law.



(14,337 posts)
3. What religion is the most anti-contraception?
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jul 2014

Extending to what could NEVER possibly be considered "abortifacients", barrier methods and sterilization. The SC is stacked with males of this religion.


(9,126 posts)
11. +1
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jul 2014

I respect a person's right to believe as they wish, but I'm getting very tired of religious people wanting to force those beliefs onto others. Very tired. And angry.



(85,373 posts)
22. Might as well ask which religion is the most anti-woman
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 08:09 AM
Jul 2014

or anti-human, or anti-science, because that's what giving coroporations more rights than People means...



(3,300 posts)
14. Scalia and Alito are the worst.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jul 2014

Thomas just sits there and sleeps, then agrees with the other fascists. Roberts should be right up there as he doesn't do anything to reign the others in. Why should he? He agrees with them!


(14,733 posts)
9. In spite of the fact Kopf was appointed by HW Bush
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 03:10 PM
Jul 2014

He's clearly a bit more 'old school Republican' than the current batch on the SCOTUS. He seems to realize that it is not the place of an appellate judge (or a Supreme Court Justice for that matter) to bring their politics into their judgment, at least to the degree this Supreme Court is doing. They sure have made some doozy mistakes.

And yeah, I know that our judicial system was created by the wealthy and propertied founders and has generally served this class throughout its existence.

The key word here is 'generally.' Supreme Courts of the past have sometimes taken their role (and their objectivity) seriously, with decisions like Brown vs Topeka Board of Education and Roe vs Wade.


(18,402 posts)
10. The decision "looks stupid" : that's an understatement
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 03:14 PM
Jul 2014

It's so full of twists in logic, lack of precedent, and unintended consequences, you could run a bulldozer through it.

It's not just that we disagree with this decision: it's STOOPID.

(Did I mention that it gives credence to "beliefs" about contraception methods that do not comport with science?)


(57,936 posts)
17. Sometimes the Supreme Court is right to go after hot-button issues.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jul 2014

Think of Brown v. Board of Education or Miranda, two well known instances in which the Supreme Court furthered justice and due process.

But the issue in Hobby Lobby is not that important to Hobby Lobby. Hobby Lobby probably gambled more on lawyers' fees than they would have paid for the birth control for their employees per year. And the bad publicity is another cost. Certainly more than 60% of American women including women who buy from Hobby Lobby use birth control.

The big question is why the Court took up Hobby Lobby. I don't think it was an accident or the result of overzealous morality on the part of the Catholic, conservative, Republican-appointed five on the Court.

Now I know what I am about to say will sound like a conspiracy theory to some. But I think that this decision is part of a strategy by conservatives like the Koch Brothers who want to change our government and our country to an oligarchic libertarianism. They know most voters wont' go for that so they have devised another method for achieving their goal.

Their first step has been, and Hobby Lobby is a continuation of it, to persuade ultra-conservative Christians (who are for the most part not libertarians) to vote for pro-libertarian candidates.

The Hobby Lobby decision makes these Christian extremists feel good even if the outcome of this ruling will be disastrous for many of their wives and daughters and probably in some cases for themselves.

The apparent goal is to overturn decisions that make birth control available and abortion legal. But that is not the real goal. That is just a means to the end.

The conservatives are trying to convince fundamentalist voters that this nation was intended to be "Christian." Never mind that reading the letters of Jefferson and Adams completely belies that idea, but it is useful to the libertarian minority in the Republican Party because it is what those Revelations-believing Christians want to think. The Court is feeding that small group of Christians this feel-good stuff so that they will vote for conservatives.

Meanwhile the same Court that courts the Christian extremists on sex is satisfying the desires of the corporations giving them just about everything that corporations hunger for.

The Hobby Lobby decision is just another part of a broad strategy that started with the Powell memo.

The paralysis in Congress may be another part of the strategy. The Republican lack of interest in passing any meaningful legislation, any legislation that would lift our economy or help people passes to the Supreme Court the authority to pass laws without congressional checks and balances. And since the small, but most powerful group in the Supreme Court is pretty much owned by conservatives and libertarians, who needs Congress? The more passive Congress is, the more it wastes its time, the more power shifts to the Supreme Court. And to the executive branch, which is why the attacks on Obama, a Democratic president, attacks coming from the far right, are also part of the strategy.

Unfortunately, Obama, at least for the first 6 years, until now, did not comprehend the kind of strategy being used to play against him. I think he does get it now.

And, let's remember. The Supreme Court can issue its edicts. But its edicts must be enforced by Obama, by the executive branch. If Congress is stalemated, if the House majority is Republican and the Senate majority is Democratic, and if the Senate cannot act without the House and cannot pass bills unless it overcomes a filibuster, then it boils down to the Supreme Court v. the executive branch.

This is precisely what libertarians want -- government by an elite that can be bought.

There is a strategy. It's not about petty issues. It is about the big picture.

Meanwhile, we Democrats aimlessly argue about rape, male privilege, white privilege and all our other self-centered (relatively) petty gripes, never devising a strategy for progress.

We see politics as a series of separate issues. We never join together to devise an overall strategy for peace, prosperity and progress.

What with the NSA picking up and tracking all of our communications, it is almost too late for us to talk about broader strategy.

(One of the points of the Occupy encampments was in part to avoid speaking into the ear of the Big Brother libertarians. But most Democrats did not understand that because they did not understand that Big Brother really is watching us. Thank you, Edward Snowden.)

We should be talking about unionizing part-time workers before the Supreme Court completely disables union movements in the absence of a functioning Congress.

What we should be talking about is reviewing all trade agreements and putting tariffs on products that are made by employees paid wages that do not permit them to live in dignity. In the third world, it is better to be a peasant working the soil with a mule than to be a factory working earning starvation wages and sleeping in a bunk in a dormitory.

But then hassling each other about whether men are properly respectful to women or whether, as Leonard Cohen and Sharon Williams so aptly put it "Black Joe is still pickin' cotton for your ribbons and bows" is so much more important than talking about a strategy that will make life livable for all of us, women, blacks, children, teachers, part-time workers, all of us.


(13,133 posts)
21. Thank you, and very well put
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 10:33 PM
Jul 2014

People sometimes don't get that they are being herded like cattle, i wonder when they wake up


(3,888 posts)
23. The decision not only looks stupid and makes 5
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 01:57 PM
Jul 2014

Supreme Court Justices look stupid, but it puts the credibility of all judges, and our system, into question. They de-legitimize themselves and their institution.

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