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iandhr

(6,852 posts)
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:07 PM Jul 2014

Host Brazil Stunned by Germany in Semifinal

Source: NY TIMES

BELO HORIZONTE, Brazil — The fireworks began at dawn. All around this city, loud pops and bangs rang out as men and women and children dressed in yellow set off flares and beeped car horns. It was supposed to be a magical day. The Brazilian national soccer team, playing at home, was one game away from a World Cup final.

No one could have guessed the tears would come before halftime. No one could have imagined there would be flags burning in the streets before dinner. Certainly no one could have envisioned that Brazilian fans, watching their team play in a semifinal, would ever consider leaving the stadium long before the end of the game.

It all happened. The 2014 World Cup, first plagued by questions about financing and protests and infrastructure and construction, then buoyed by scads of goals and dramatic finishes and a contagious spirit of exuberance and joy from the locals, will ultimately be remembered for this: the home team, on the precipice of glory, being throttled like an overmatched junior varsity squad who somehow stumbled into the wrong game.

The final score was Germany 7, Brazil 1. It felt like Germany 70, Brazil 1. By the end, the Germans were barely celebrating their goals and the Brazilians, starting with their coach, Luiz Felipe Scolari, could manage little more than blank stares. In the stands, the Brazilian fans — the ones who stayed around at least — passed the time by cycling through obscene chants about each player as well as the Brazilian president, Dilma Rousseff.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/sports/worldcup/world-cup-2014-host-brazil-stunned-7-1-by-germany-in-semifinal.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LargeMediaHeadlineSum&module=photo-spot-region&region=photo-spot&WT.nav=photo-spot

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Host Brazil Stunned by Germany in Semifinal (Original Post) iandhr Jul 2014 OP
It's as if millions of Brazilians cried out in terror... ehrnst Jul 2014 #1
Reminds me of the old 'W' joke. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #7
... KamaAina Jul 2014 #9
This is how it ends Submariner Jul 2014 #13
de bild big_dog Jul 2014 #19
I'm pretty sure you can make that their "ex-coach" KamaAina Jul 2014 #2
Has the reports of flag burning been verified? itsrobert Jul 2014 #3
If that's true, you have a good point. nt longship Jul 2014 #4
7 to 1? Ouch. nt Ruby the Liberal Jul 2014 #5
And Ann Coulter Bohemianwriter Jul 2014 #11
Even worse, Brazil fans began cheering germany. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #6
Nah, that was all the Germans who live in Brazil tularetom Jul 2014 #18
As a life long Brazil fan.... Bohemianwriter Jul 2014 #8
Welcome to DU, Bohemianwriter! calimary Jul 2014 #31
A peek into Brazil's near future derby378 Jul 2014 #10
Julio Cesar didn't have a good game, but let's be honest here... Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #20
Exactly T_i_B Jul 2014 #42
Are you serious? n/t SylviaD Jul 2014 #22
Germany has a great team, but... philosslayer Jul 2014 #12
So is losing by six goals. Throd Jul 2014 #14
There is no running up the score. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #15
Exactly mcar Jul 2014 #16
The last three World Cups Germany has lost in the finals once and in the semis twice BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #17
That wasn't running up the score Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #21
they'll get over it after a few orange slices and juice boxes frylock Jul 2014 #25
If you're not motivated enough in the world cup semi-finals in front of a home crowd hughee99 Jul 2014 #36
Honestly, if they wanted to run up the score, VWolf Jul 2014 #45
At least it could have been 8-0 cpwm17 Jul 2014 #46
I agree Skittles Jul 2014 #51
There is no expectation of "mercy" in football. Codeine Jul 2014 #53
Personally, I blame Greenwald....(and Scolari) Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #23
Any word on this from Nate Silver? ProgressiveJarhead Jul 2014 #24
Looks like he's eating crow: joshcryer Jul 2014 #28
numbers do not tell the whole story in sports, ever geek tragedy Jul 2014 #29
They got the first round 100%, second round 7/8. joshcryer Jul 2014 #30
Brazil have a great team on paper T_i_B Jul 2014 #43
Wow, Nate had Brazil to win! I guess he knows politics better than soccer. SunSeeker Jul 2014 #33
You will all probably hate me for saying this but... Crowman1979 Jul 2014 #26
It seems that Germany has been saving their best stuff for foes who speak Portuguese this year. JVS Jul 2014 #27
They held back in the US game. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #40
I wouldn't go so far as to say Germany threw the US game, JDPriestly Jul 2014 #41
Come on, maybe the US was actually better than people thought?? 7962 Jul 2014 #49
I watched the US/Germany game, and my impression was that the Germans JDPriestly Jul 2014 #50
It just shows you how important some players are. You lose two key players mackerel Jul 2014 #32
Germans work, play, eat, sleep, take tests and play soccer as a team. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #39
Berliners were celebrating until at least 230am. a la izquierda Jul 2014 #34
I didn't know doughnuts could celebrate! IronLionZion Jul 2014 #47
We were all cheering for Germany Fred M Jul 2014 #35
How bad was your day? ... aggiesal Jul 2014 #37
Once again, the Germans proved that teamwork wins. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #38
There is no joy in Mudzil NeoNerd Jul 2014 #44
You could say the Brazilians got waxed! 7962 Jul 2014 #48
I noticed how much people talk about the rioting that happened there davidpdx Jul 2014 #52

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
7. Reminds me of the old 'W' joke.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jul 2014

Wherein Rummy comes in and tells Bush that 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed in Afghanistan, and Bush replies 'My God, I had no idea there were that many soldiers there!' (ie, Bush thinks 'brazillion' is a word.)

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
3. Has the reports of flag burning been verified?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jul 2014

I heard people were retweeting images from 2013 saying it was happening now.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
6. Even worse, Brazil fans began cheering germany.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jul 2014

That rarely happens, and only when your team really really REALLY sucks.

Like the home team today.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
8. As a life long Brazil fan....
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:30 PM
Jul 2014

This years team have been a disappointment.

Call me a romantic, but my heroes of my boyhood days, Zico, Careca, Junior, Socrates of World Cup 1982 will forever stand out as legendary. Todays players seem to belong more on the cat walk than on a football field.

And football in general today only interest me when I put a few bets in and cash in....

calimary

(81,044 posts)
31. Welcome to DU, Bohemianwriter!
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 12:17 AM
Jul 2014

Glad you're here! Not a big sports nut, myself. I enjoyed what I saw of the World Cup because it was actually quite pleasant to watch something whose results didn't matter to me one way or another. It was kinda nice to be neutral and just sit back and watch casually, and not care about the outcome. Heck, the crazy fans were as much fun to watch as any action on the field.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
10. A peek into Brazil's near future
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jul 2014

Next year, on the streets of Rio de Janeiro at the height of Carnaval, gaze out amongst the innumerable marchers, dancers, and floats. What do you see? High atop one specially modified trio elétrico, flanked by two samba dancers dressed in gaudy feathered leotards, Julio Cesar, the Brazilian goalie from the 2014 FIFA World Cup, has been tied to a plywood imitation goal. Cesar appears to have been drenched in honey and feathers. From all over the street, soccer balls appear out of nowhere, flung by people on the sidelines and even a few performers. The balls strike the poor goalie all over his torso, arms, and legs. A raucous cheer goes up when one futbol bounces off poor Cesar's head, and the samba dancers gyrate and trill their approval.

It's gonna get ugly at Carnaval 2015. REAL ugly.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. Julio Cesar didn't have a good game, but let's be honest here...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 09:34 PM
Jul 2014

The back four hung him out to dry, repeatedly...

T_i_B

(14,735 posts)
42. Exactly
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:20 AM
Jul 2014

It's very difficult for goalkeepers when the back 4 are doing a rather accurate impression of headless chickens.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
12. Germany has a great team, but...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:38 PM
Jul 2014

But... its really disappointing to see them run up the score like this. Humiliating the home team is just bad sportsmanship.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. There is no running up the score.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:53 PM
Jul 2014

There is playing well, and playing poorly. Brazil's lack of effort was reflected in the score.

mcar

(42,270 posts)
16. Exactly
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jul 2014

This is not little kid soccer. I actually thought Germany was holding back in the second half - whether out of sympathy or to avoid injury.

Brazil brought this embarrassment on themselves.

BeyondGeography

(39,339 posts)
17. The last three World Cups Germany has lost in the finals once and in the semis twice
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jul 2014

by two goals to Brazil and Italy and by one to Spain. What were they supposed to do in response to Brazil's matador defense in the first half with a trip to the final staring them in the face? Special rules for the host?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
21. That wasn't running up the score
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jul 2014

Brazil completely laid down with all the lackadaisical jogging and ball-watching so the Germans were essentially playing against air...Germany could have gotten to 10-15 goals easily if they wanted to press the issue...

The defending on that 4-0 goal was so negligent I almost began to wonder if the fix was in...This was a talented but flawed team sorely lacking in heart, mental toughness, and tactical adjustment...I know the pressures and expectations of an entire nation which expects nothing but victory can start to wear players down, but that Brazil side didn't have a plan, and once Germany went up 2-0 they essentially quit on the game and their nation and did *nothing* but wait for the clock to hit 90:00...

(Yes, I'm still wearing my Brazil jersey as I write this---A jersey which I ironically purchased while in Frankfurt...Coincidence??)

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
36. If you're not motivated enough in the world cup semi-finals in front of a home crowd
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 02:05 AM
Jul 2014

to keep your team from getting embarrassed, you deserve this. It's not like Germany was playing the Buddy Cianci Jr. High B-squad, they were playing a top ranked team.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
46. At least it could have been 8-0
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:52 AM
Jul 2014

Near the end a German player seemed to not try to hit an easy shot, kicking it wide. Moments later Brazil scored their only goal.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
53. There is no expectation of "mercy" in football.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jul 2014

In fact it would be considered insulting for a team to stop playing their hardest; your job is to score goals, and you score as many as you can without opening yourself to dangerous counters. To do - or expect - otherwise is childish and silly.

Football is not, contrary to prevailing American opinion, a children's sport.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. Personally, I blame Greenwald....(and Scolari)
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 09:41 PM
Jul 2014

Has Glenn Greenwald even bothered to step up and give some kind of explanation for this national disgrace? Felipao has at least done HIS part in accepting the responsibility...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
29. numbers do not tell the whole story in sports, ever
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jul 2014

had the computer model watched Brazil play this WC (ugly win against Croatia aided by refs, tied Mexico, should have lost to Chile) it wouldn't have had them such heavy favorites.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
30. They got the first round 100%, second round 7/8.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 12:01 AM
Jul 2014

But you're right, you can never guarantee anything. I was surprised he gave it to Brazil even though Brazil was out two good players.

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
26. You will all probably hate me for saying this but...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:15 PM
Jul 2014

...Team USA only lost to Germany 1-0, the only goal of the game wasn't scored until the second half, and Germany had 63% possession.

But that's none of my business.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
27. It seems that Germany has been saving their best stuff for foes who speak Portuguese this year.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:44 PM
Jul 2014

The US and Ghana seem to have gotten off easy.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
40. They held back in the US game.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:23 AM
Jul 2014

I wouldn't say they threw it, but then Germans have two winning qualities: they are team players, can't beat them on that; and, they are well organized strategists. They think long term. They think about consequences.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
41. I wouldn't go so far as to say Germany threw the US game,
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:24 AM
Jul 2014

but I was shocked at how they held back. I suspected at the time that it was a strategy..

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
49. Come on, maybe the US was actually better than people thought??
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:28 AM
Jul 2014

1-0 is too close to be "holding back".

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
50. I watched the US/Germany game, and my impression was that the Germans
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:39 AM
Jul 2014

were taking it easy. But I could be wrong.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
32. It just shows you how important some players are. You lose two key players
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 12:44 AM
Jul 2014

at the end game the rest of the team is going to have coping issues.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
39. Germans work, play, eat, sleep, take tests and play soccer as a team.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:21 AM
Jul 2014

It's their way of life. When you watch them play, it is as if each knows the mind of the other. That is why I respect Germans a great deal.

 

Fred M

(64 posts)
35. We were all cheering for Germany
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 01:13 AM
Jul 2014

And have been since the US got beaten. Some base personnel were rooting for Germany from the get-go (mostly people who've spent most of their careers here).

aggiesal

(8,902 posts)
37. How bad was your day? ...
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 02:19 AM
Jul 2014

Bad ------------------------------ Really Bad ------------------------------ Brazil

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
38. Once again, the Germans proved that teamwork wins.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:19 AM
Jul 2014

But the article is too tough on the Brazil team that suffered a terrible loss when their leading player was seriously injured in an earlier game.

Still, the Germans proved once again what cooperation, working together smoothly and without a lot of stupid, egotistic friction can do.

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