Documents show Russian separatist commander signed off on executions of three men in Sloviansk

[Tommy_Carcetti]

Source: Kyiv Post

SLOVIANSK, Ukraine - The regional Security Service of Ukraine headquarters, the command center for Kremlin-backed insurgents before they fled Sloviansk on June 5, was also known as a prison where hostages were kept and beaten. Seized documents, however, show that the SBU building may also have served as the the place for secret trials and orders to execute at least three prisoners.

The separatist military commander, Igor Strelkov, a citizen of Moscow whose real name is Igor Girkin and who claims to have worked for Russia's Federal Security Service until March 2013, had his headquarters in this building.

During this time, Strelkov handed down the death sentences under a Stalin-era law, seized documents show. The Kyiv Post was not able to reach Strelkov for comment. Several requests for interview with him have gone unanswered.

The documents were part of the scorched, stinking debris left by the separatists. Rebels set fire to the building in an attempt to destroy evidence, but they were not successful in covering their tracks before Ukrainian forces liberated Sloviansk and sent the insurgents on the retreat to the provincial capital of Donetsk.


Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/documents-reveal-shadowy-russian-rebel-commander-signed-off-on-executions-of-three-men-in-sloviansk-355580.html

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Strelkov/Girkin is increasing coming off more and more creepy the more you learn about him.

[The Magistrate]

1. What Comes To Light Where The Secessionists Have Been Driven Out, Sir

Will prove, shall we say, very embarrassing to some people....

[11 Bravo]

6. I would submit, sir, that many of the people to whom you refer are incapable ...

of expressing shame unless explicitly directed to do so by RT.

[The Magistrate]

7. I Would Not Argue Strenuously Against That Proposition, Sir

But perhaps some genuine feeling emerges, sunk in the long, dark, tea-times of the soul....

[The Magistrate]

13. Nos. Ten And Eleven Below, Sir, Do Seem To Confirm Your View....

Teach me to let optimism and faith in humanity creep in....

[cosmicone]

2. No corroboration from any official media

who have seen these purported documents.

Sounds like a disinformation campaign to me.

Who are the three that were "executed"? Where are their families? A lot of questions ....

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. The mother of one of the purported executees is interviewed here:

http://mashable.com/2014/07/10/evidence-of-execution-trial-discovered-in-the-rubble-of-rebel-headquarters-in-ukraine/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link

[dipsydoodle]

4. Tme stamp on which confirms this not to be LBN.

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[The Magistrate]

5. Hard To See How That Affects The Link He Posted, Sir

Which is well within the twelve hour limit. Nor is there any restriction of the source he linked to.

One might almost suspect you would prefer to see accounts of bad behavior by the secessionists suppressed....

[dipsydoodle]

14. If you check the source Madam

you'll see its a media project composed of past events : www.mymedia.org.ua

Editor’s Note: This article has been produced with support from the project www.mymedia.org.ua, financially supported by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Denmark, and implemented by a joint venture between NIRAS and BBC Media Action.The content in this article may not necessarily reflect the views of the Danish government, NIRAS and BBC Action Media.

The fact Kiev Post printed it today is incidental.

[The Magistrate]

16. That Is Where He Saw It, Sir, And The Time Was Straight

There is no requirement I have ever heard of that a story be traced to its original appearance in determining if something qualifies for time. If there were, we would have little but links to various wire services, after all, since most newspapers pick up from these, and not always in a timely manner.

[davidpdx]

22. It is amazing the people who scream about freedom of speech and preach revolution

want to shut down a discussion. They must have something to hide.

[sharp_stick]

8. The OP story is from today

trying to tie a reply to an OP from an article dated yesterday to justify a potential lock on an LBN post isn't really fair.

[Igel]

9. Old news, sadly.

It was reported a month or more ago. But nobody seemed interested in reporting it. Even now it'll be decried as propaganda.

Google Sergei Kurginyan if you want a nice Soviet-style smear campaign. He wrote an article that was dismissive of Strelkov and some of his agenda. He was deceived, and broke ranks with the "people" and those who serve the people unceasingly. It was then a "provocation," an attempt to divide the "white ribbon" liberals with the staunch nationalist Communists. When the rumor started that perhaps he was in E. Ukr at the behest of the Kremlin, that kind of "agent" doesn't just do things on his own, the response was that "information" said he was coopted and paid by pro-Western forces and served as their agent: He's trying to undermine Strelkvov's glorious leadership (and the DNR/LNR press extolled Strelkov at this point as a true "vozhd'," a word meaning 'leader' but seldom applied to Khrushchov or Brezhnev, sometimes to Putin, and often to Stalin). Moreover, he was trying to shake the faith that those who were defending Russia had in Russia's support and their leader, Putin. As part of the political infighting, some wondered why it was that one commander, less than abjectly loyal, failed to arrest Kurginyan when he was on his territory. That commander said no order had come down to arrest him, and Strelkov (who hadn't given the order) responded that he was above such petty bickering, but that he had told him the "correct" line and if he didn't like it, as part of the Ukrainian propaganda "machine" he could go "there."

Brings back old memories. I'm old enough to have read this kind of thing in Izvestiya and Pravda in the very late '70s, and at some point read some of these exchanges from previous decades. What's old is new again.

The smaller the teapot, the bigger the tempest.

One kind of analysis concerning this bit of conflict is that it's the result of de-Sovietization and the fear of de-Sovietization finally reaching the Donbas. Those involved, the movers and shakers and many of their supporters, really want USSR 2.0.

[GeorgeGist]

10. "The documents were part of the scorched, stinking debris left by the separatists."

Yet the documents themselves are nearly pristine.

[nyabingi]

11. Looks like the neo-conservatives (and their Democratic cheerleaders) have scored what appears

to be another one of their many foreign policy objectives - bringing one more pitiful country under IMF/US/EU subjugation.

Now we'll see all sorts of documents and stuff proving Russia is the real instigator and culprit behind all this mess.

The problem with Democrats is that they are all too willing to go along with the neo-con vision for the world. If Yanukovich, while he was still in power, had ordered the Ukrainian military to get in their tanks and jet fighters to kill Ukrainians, we would have heard Kerry and Obama whining about "dictators killing their own people" like they did with Assad in Syria.

The new Ukrainian president should have agreed to negotiate with the anti-Kiev contingent as soon as he took office, but he instead called for killing, with Washington's quiet blessing.

Hooray for Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol and their fans here at DU!!

[joshcryer]

12. "Nothing to see here, move along."

Don't talk about what the separatists have done. Anyone doing so is a neocon.

[nyabingi]

17. If you're a neo-con, don't be ashamed to say you are

Hillary, Obama, Kerry, etc., all accept Bill Kristol's worldview.

Obama took many of the Bush regimes ideas and expanded upon them while the media is telling us Obama is different because he "ended the wars in Iraq" (hahaha!!) and Afghanistan (another hahahha!!).

[The Magistrate]

19. And Of Course, Sir, You Are Among The First To Howl

When people point out you are cheer-leading for a fascist, Putin, and his imperialist venture in Ukraine, part of his intention to restore as much of the old Russian land empire as he can manage to do. You will cry that you are being smeared, that this is a personal attack, McCarthy-ism, red-baiting, and heaven knows what else. Yet you think calling people who oppose what you cheer-lead for 'neo-cons' and such, is the height of the forensic art, and a telling and irrefutable move....

[joshcryer]

20. The neocons have a hard on for Putin.

So I'm decidedly not a neocon.

But you can accuse people of being neocons all you want.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

15. Anything concerning the actual story and what Girkin is alleged to have done?

Or is it all just, "What were the flavors of Victoria Nuland's cookies that she handed out?"

[Tommy_Carcetti]

21. Magistrate, Divine Punishment, Aisle 5!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smite thee!

[davidpdx]

23. To paraphrase from Groundhog Day

The Magistrate is "a god, not thee God".

[freshwest]

24. If all the Democrats are problematic, what party will take up the slack?