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alp227

(31,962 posts)
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 06:13 PM Jul 2014

Götze volley gives Germany their fourth World Cup title

Source: DW TV

Germany ran out 1-0 World Cup final winners on Sunday at the Maracana in Rio de Janeiro. The victory adds a historic fourth star to the German crest, thanks to a beautiful effort from Mario Götze.

There was bad news for Germany even before the first kick. Midfielder Sami Khedira, whose return to form has pushed the team to new heights this tournmanet, was scratched from the teamsheet at the last minute after picking up a calf strain in warm-ups. He was replaced by Borussia Mönchengladbach youngster Christoph Kramer.

The match began with hesitant attacking from both sides. Lionel Messi in particular caused trouble for the German defense, frequently getting the best of the much-slower Mats Hummels. Gonzalo Higuain had Argentina's best opportunities of the first half. After picking up an errant header and firing wide in front of goal in the 21st minute, his successful effort ten minutes later was narrowly ruled offside. Benedikt Höwedes, meanwhile, will have wanted another shot at his header off the post just before the break.

Kramer's surprise start was cut short just past the half hour mark. A collision with defender Ezequial Garay in the Argentina box left the 23-year-old on the ground and clutching his head. He briefly attempted to play on, but was eventually substituted for Andre Schürrle.

Read more: http://www.dw.de/g%C3%B6tze-volley-gives-germany-their-fourth-world-cup-title/a-17783117



Frankfurter Allgemeine: Erlöser Götze - Deutschland ist Weltmeister

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Götze volley gives Germany their fourth World Cup title (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2014 OP
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit.... 47of74 Jul 2014 #1
I'm glad Germany won for the first time as a united country Unmenacing Dennis Jul 2014 #2
I thought they won in 1990 ... they weren't united yet then? brett_jv Jul 2014 #3
Germany reunified in the autumn of 1990, months after "West" Germany won Unmenacing Dennis Jul 2014 #5
Interesting. Raine1967 Jul 2014 #17
Uh, okay Unmenacing Dennis Jul 2014 #19
You are aware i was not challenging what you said, right? Raine1967 Jul 2014 #22
Being new here, I'm not sure of anything! Unmenacing Dennis Jul 2014 #23
Fair enough. Raine1967 Jul 2014 #24
Happy to oblige, Raine! Unmenacing Dennis Jul 2014 #27
brett_jv Diclotican Jul 2014 #33
I find it ironic how the British resent the Argentinians over islands that are right off the coast Beacool Jul 2014 #6
Nah, they resent Argentina because of the Hand of God goal. Codeine Jul 2014 #8
I have my issues with Maradona, but he and Pele are the masters of the sport. Beacool Jul 2014 #12
But, but, but the British are Smart and Sophisticated! Unmenacing Dennis Jul 2014 #9
I think that they are xenophobes. Beacool Jul 2014 #11
Well a number of those Germans took up residence in Argentina. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #15
Argentinians may be many things, but they have never pretended to be British. Beacool Jul 2014 #34
I have far far cousins of Welsh decent in Argentina. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #35
Yes, the Welsh settled in Patagonia. Beacool Jul 2014 #37
I didn't realize proximity had anything to do with it. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #16
Bloody Brits - they get everywhere, don't they? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #10
Argentines vs Argentinians ... mwooldri Jul 2014 #14
You may not be a fan of the Union Jack... FBaggins Jul 2014 #36
glad it didn't end in PKs iandhr Jul 2014 #4
Indeed. KamaAina Jul 2014 #39
Either team could have won, the luck was with Germany. Beacool Jul 2014 #7
This was a cup that DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #13
And the Germans just squeaked by France as well aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #20
That was the first game Löw went to his proper line-up BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #28
Nailbiting oldtime dfl_er Jul 2014 #31
Wonderful final match lovemydog Jul 2014 #18
Congrats Germany. clg311 Jul 2014 #21
Sssssh! Be vewy, vewy quiet! KamaAina Jul 2014 #42
Seeing as how I was among nothing but Germans (and 1 Austrian), it's a good thing!! DFW Jul 2014 #25
Being Dutch, I think 'we' could have won over Germany BB1 Jul 2014 #26
Even the Germans thought Nederland could have beat Germany. DFW Jul 2014 #29
"Dat was niet te geloven!" BB1 Jul 2014 #40
I do speak Nederlands, actually DFW Jul 2014 #41
Sounds like a fun way to learn a language BB1 Jul 2014 #43
Welterusten DFW Jul 2014 #45
That goal was AWESOME! 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #30
(Soccer novice here) It was a really good game. pinto Jul 2014 #32
I thought Goatse was the goal. yurbud Jul 2014 #38
Deutschland!!! icarusxat Jul 2014 #44
 
2. I'm glad Germany won for the first time as a united country
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jul 2014

But the Brit announcers really pissed me off by referring to "the Argentines" instead of "the Argentinians." It reminded me of the Falklands War, where the Brits re-stole the Malvinas while referring to the entire country as "the Argentine," as though it were a primitive, mysterious land of savages. As you can tell, I am no fan of the Union Jack.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
3. I thought they won in 1990 ... they weren't united yet then?
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jul 2014

Perhaps I forget my History, but didn't St. Ronnie as POTUS personally tear down the wall, brick-by-brick? And he left office in 1989, so ... it must've been all unicorns, kittens, and rainbows in Deutchland by 1990, right?

 
19. Uh, okay
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:51 PM
Jul 2014

From Wikipedia:

The 1990 FIFA World Cup was the 14th FIFA World Cup, the quadrennial international football world championship tournament. It was held from 8 June to 8 July 1990 in Italy, the second country to host the event twice (the first being Mexico in 1986).

The tournament was won by West Germany, who claimed their third World Cup title by defeating reigning champions Argentina 1–0 in the final, a rematch of the previous final four years earlier.


In related news:

The German reunification (German: Deutsche Wiedervereinigung) was the process in 1990 in which the German Democratic Republic (GDR/East Germany) joined the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG/West Germany) to form the reunited nation of Germany, and when Berlin reunited into a single city, as provided by its then Grundgesetz constitution Article 23. The end of the unification process is officially referred to as German unity (German: Deutsche Einheit), celebrated on 3 October (German Unity Day).[1]

Honest!

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
22. You are aware i was not challenging what you said, right?
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jul 2014

It was very nice to know. I did not question you. Welcome to DU.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
24. Fair enough.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:56 PM
Jul 2014

I thought it really was interesting. My grandparents were all teens when they came over to this country after the first great war, so I liked that factoid.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
33. brett_jv
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 08:42 AM
Jul 2014

brett_jv

Tecnically they was united in 1993, when the big powers UK, USA, France and Soviet accepted a unifited Germany..... The Berlin wall fall in 1989, but the two states existed in a form untill 1993 when it was united under the same flag .....

Diclotican

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
6. I find it ironic how the British resent the Argentinians over islands that are right off the coast
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:02 PM
Jul 2014

of Patagonia, while rooting for the country that almost destroyed their nation and most of Europe.



Beacool

(30,244 posts)
12. I have my issues with Maradona, but he and Pele are the masters of the sport.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jul 2014

No one has equaled them yet. I was hoping that Messi would finally have a World Cup under his belt, but it was not to be. As a person he is far better than Maradona. I go to Argentina regularly, as I went to high school there and have friends, many people think that Maradona is a jerk.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,846 posts)
15. Well a number of those Germans took up residence in Argentina.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:26 PM
Jul 2014

And given that Argentinians are Italians and Germans speaking Spanish while pretending to be British, it becomes even more ironic.


P.s. I love Argentina. Buenos Aires is one of my favorite cities in the world. It's more European than a lot of Europe.

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
34. Argentinians may be many things, but they have never pretended to be British.
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 09:29 AM
Jul 2014

They would find that insulting, particularly considering the Falklands/Malvinas situation.

Yes, most Argentinians are of European descent. They were the 8th wealthiest nation in the world until WWII and millions of people emigrated there around the same time they did so here. Most of the immigrants of that era came from Northern Spain (Galicia) and Southern Italy (Sicily and Naples), but there were many others from Eastern Europe and Russia. The latter due to the persecution of the tsarist regime. The second largest Jewish community in the Western Hemisphere (the US is #1), is in Argentina.

I know Buenos Aires very well, as I went to high school there. I attended a boarding school run by the Sisters of Mercy, an Irish congregation (the Irish have been in Argentina since the times of the potato famine).

I agree that it's a beautiful city and it's often referred as the "Paris of the South".

As for the Germans, I was coincidentally listening to the radio this morning on the way to work and they were interviewing a Nazi hunter. In response to a question, he mentioned that more Nazis had hid here in the States and in Canada than in Argentina.

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
37. Yes, the Welsh settled in Patagonia.
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jul 2014

Similar climate than in Wales. One common item in that area are "black cakes" or what the Irish call "plum pudding".

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,846 posts)
16. I didn't realize proximity had anything to do with it.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jul 2014

I guess the United States owns Cuba and the Bahamas now.

mwooldri

(10,291 posts)
14. Argentines vs Argentinians ...
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jul 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Argentine,_not_Argentinian

I don't know if it is a British or American English variation but a citizen of Argentina is an Argentine. So for the commentator to refer to the players of the Argentinian football team as Argentines it would be correct.

As for Falklands/Malvinas - the principle is self determination. If the people who live on those islands want to become Argentines then they are welcome to do so.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
36. You may not be a fan of the Union Jack...
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jul 2014

...but that doesn't change the language "The Argentine" is the literal english translation of "la Argentina". "Argentinian" would only be correct if the name of the country was "Argentina"... which is itself a western twist.

the Falklands War, where the Brits re-stole the Malvinas

"Re-stole" just days after it was invaded? It had been part of the UK for almost a century - and the whole conflict was manufactured by the military junta to gin up popular support for their rule (never expecting that the UK would go to war).

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
7. Either team could have won, the luck was with Germany.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:04 PM
Jul 2014

It was a fight until the end. Argentina lost with dignity.

Congratulations Germany!!!!

DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
13. This was a cup that
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jul 2014

was marked by fine efforts, hard playing, and lots of close, nailbiting matches.

Except for Brazil, whose mixture of bad attitude and ineptitude led them to well-deserved shame. Both the US and Argentina managed to make it a close 1-0 against Germany, while Brazil, well, let's just say I do not look forward to the Rio Olympics.

BeyondGeography

(39,284 posts)
28. That was the first game Löw went to his proper line-up
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 09:38 PM
Jul 2014

returning Lahm to the back line and sitting Mertesacker. Iow, France lost to a tougher and ultimately the winning version of Germany, and all 1-0 results aren't equal. Didn't play as badly as they were made out to play either, in hindsight. A great learning experience for our young Bleus .

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
18. Wonderful final match
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jul 2014

Very well played by both teams. Argentina again played excellent defense, and had some quality chances to score as well. Germany just had more depth, along with that amazing scoring play by the 22 year old. A fitting end to a brilliant world cup tournament!

 

clg311

(119 posts)
21. Congrats Germany.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:06 PM
Jul 2014

I was rooting for Argentina but Germany played better. The coach of Argentina looks like Elmer Fudd.

DFW

(54,057 posts)
25. Seeing as how I was among nothing but Germans (and 1 Austrian), it's a good thing!!
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 09:01 PM
Jul 2014

Never mind that we are on the tip of Cape Cod, Massachusetts! Except for my token presence, only native German-speakers here today!

Me, my wife, and our next-door neighbors in Düsseldorf (he is Austrian), here for the first time:
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Plus my elder daughter (on the right, holding the cell phone) and a high school friend of hers from the Düsseldorf area:
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BB1

(798 posts)
26. Being Dutch, I think 'we' could have won over Germany
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 09:13 PM
Jul 2014

but on the other hand; this was the best World Cup ever! So many goals, so many surprises, such a bad home team. And we still finished 3rd. Nice

DFW

(54,057 posts)
29. Even the Germans thought Nederland could have beat Germany.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jul 2014

There was a mixture of surprise and relief when Argentina took out Nederland in the semis. Dat was niet te geloven!

BB1

(798 posts)
40. "Dat was niet te geloven!"
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 06:52 PM
Jul 2014

Talking Dutch to me, huh?
I live in a border town, quite some German flags around here during the final. And of course most Dutchmen were in favor of Germany anyway.

DFW

(54,057 posts)
41. I do speak Nederlands, actually
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 07:01 PM
Jul 2014

I have an office there, and I asked my guy there to speak to me slowly until I could answer him back. Now, we never even bother with English anymore, except when I have to write something complicated. I never learned to write it. And although he is a native born Nederlander, his native language is not Nederlands, so when he speaks it, he speaks it with the clear precision of someone who has used it as a second language for his whole life. It was easy to learn from him.

BB1

(798 posts)
43. Sounds like a fun way to learn a language
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jul 2014

What kind of office do you keep?

I learnt English in high school in Holland, but after graduation I moved to Missouri for a year, like an exchange student. Except there was no exchange
But I learned me some fine midwestern drawling allright.

This is a topic I can talk about for days in end. I find many similarities in languages; words that sound the same but mean a different thing; multiple words that translate the same (mouse, louse, house - muis, luis, huis); idioms that are similar but not quite, depending on the region of origin; etc etc etc.
But it's almost 2 AM. Goodnight, sir.

DFW

(54,057 posts)
45. Welterusten
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:41 AM
Jul 2014

We just maintain a one-man representative office. My man there speaks Drins, so when he speaks to me in Nederlands, he uses his second language, dus hij spreekt hel duidelijk.

3catwoman3

(23,820 posts)
30. That goal was AWESOME!
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jul 2014

I always enjoy it when players essentially pass to themselves and then go on to finish. What a fabulous lifelong memory Goetze will have. As someone else commented above, I am really glad it did not go to a shootout.

Kramer looked absolutely terrible when he was escorted off the field. I hope he has not sustained any permanent damage.

I thoroughly enjoyed the various combinations of commentators throughout this tournament. I wish it weren't over already. In the post game discussion, Bob Ley et al were discussing their favorite moments of the tournament. My own is Clint Dempsey's electrifying goal so early in the first game of group play. Here's hoping for more of those in 2018!

icarusxat

(403 posts)
44. Deutschland!!!
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 08:03 PM
Jul 2014

I was introduced to soccer in Germany in 1978. During the world cup the entire country shut down for 5 weeks. Someday, the US will get it, this was not the year. Even when the home team is eliminated, in other countries they keep watching and rooting. Here as soon as the home team was eliminated, we watched, sort of...

Our closest equivalent is the super bowl, even when your favorite team is out of the running there is still a super bowl party. When the US reaches that level of love for the game of soccer we might win a World Cup.

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