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William769

(55,144 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:23 PM Jul 2014

MH17 tributes in Moscow: 'Forgive us'

Source: CNN

Moscow (CNN) -- Outside the Dutch Embassy in Moscow, people have left flowers and cuddly toys at a makeshift memorial for the lives lost in a conflict-scarred corner of eastern Ukraine.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 fell from the sky in Donetsk on Thursday, killing all aboard. Of the 298 people killed, 193 -- nearly two-thirds -- were Dutch citizens.

The United States accuses Moscow of supporting the pro-Russian rebels that it suspects shot down the aircraft.

Russia denies involvement, with Russian President Vladimir Putin saying Ukraine's military operation against the rebels is to blame for the tragedy. He has called for a "thorough and objective" investigation.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/21/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-moscow-embassy/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



The tributes at the Dutch Embassy in Moscow include a hand-drawn picture of a plane broken in midair with the caption "children should not die," in a child's handwriting.

Another message reads: "We are afraid, we are ashamed, we are in mourning."

While the official Russian position is that Russia played no role and has no responsibility for the crash, what's striking in many of the notes is the use of the phrase "forgive us."

The messages give a sense that the people who have left them do feel that Russia has an element of responsibility in what is playing out in eastern Ukraine.

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MH17 tributes in Moscow: 'Forgive us' (Original Post) William769 Jul 2014 OP
Leave some flowers at the embassies of these women and children's countries a well. DeSwiss Jul 2014 #1
So no comment on this one? Very telling. nt William769 Jul 2014 #6
I saw some of these the other day. herding cats Jul 2014 #2
Putin sure has put his people in a bad position. William769 Jul 2014 #3
That he has. herding cats Jul 2014 #7
Agreed. William769 Jul 2014 #8
Like we were during the bush cheney coup. :( Cha Jul 2014 #21
Putin has put some people in a bad position? Nitram Jul 2014 #25
Americans would say the same thing. Very well expressed and shows a good heart: freshwest Jul 2014 #14
I agree with you about Americans. herding cats Jul 2014 #20
The people are better than their government BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Jul 2014 #5
So many tears... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #9
That is very sweet sheshe. William769 Jul 2014 #10
Its not you, but your leader lobodons Jul 2014 #11
if only such people held power, there would be nothing to apologize for nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #12
I think it's a good thing. freshwest Jul 2014 #13
K&R awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #15
The Russian People are Kind and Warmhearted AnnieBW Jul 2014 #16
They have their own trigger-happy, gun-loving asswipes, like everywhere else, but... Amonester Jul 2014 #18
Yes they are. IronGate Jul 2014 #26
It is very moving that some in Russia realize what their government is up to davidpdx Jul 2014 #17
I agree, david... I posted this on Saturday.. Cha Jul 2014 #22
Interesting what the Russian populations thinks. Historic NY Jul 2014 #19
Thanks so poignant.. mahalo Historic NY Cha Jul 2014 #23
Mahalo for this. William.. I posted one lone one that I saw on Saturday and now there's more! Cha Jul 2014 #24
And now they won't be ab;e to protest that asshole Putin. William769 Jul 2014 #27
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
1. Leave some flowers at the embassies of these women and children's countries a well.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:32 PM
Jul 2014
It's women, kids and babies.

- Bringing Democracy to people is dangerous......

herding cats

(19,559 posts)
2. I saw some of these the other day.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:39 PM
Jul 2014

This one stuck with me.

"In our country there are a lot of good people who love other people. Forgive us for all the rest."



More from Buzzfeed.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamelder/russians-are-leaving-flowers-at-the-dutch-embassy-in-moscow

herding cats

(19,559 posts)
7. That he has.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jul 2014

These signs at the embassy remind me of what we did with the "I'm Sorry" signs on the internet during the height of the Iraq war.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
25. Putin has put some people in a bad position?
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jul 2014

I'll say. Every person who was on board that airliner.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. Americans would say the same thing. Very well expressed and shows a good heart:
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:07 PM
Jul 2014
"In our country there are a lot of good people who love other people. Forgive us for all the rest."

Thanks for adding that.

herding cats

(19,559 posts)
20. I agree with you about Americans.
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 12:59 AM
Jul 2014

It's the reason that one sticks in my mind. I'm also reminded of the protest which took place in Russia during and after the last election. I can relate to how many citizens there may be feeling right now.

Response to William769 (Original post)

sheshe2

(83,730 posts)
9. So many tears...
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jul 2014

How many more tears do we have left to cry before we are dry inside.



a light for those souls that are finally coming home. may they rest in peace, William.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
11. Its not you, but your leader
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jul 2014

Just like America had to when Bush was in office. Forgive us World for the War Crimes of our leader.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
18. They have their own trigger-happy, gun-loving asswipes, like everywhere else, but...
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 12:14 AM
Jul 2014

these violent morons who don't have any respect for other humans constitute a relatively small minority, like everywhere else.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
26. Yes they are.
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 11:28 AM
Jul 2014

I spent a year in Moscow on a Firefighter exchange program and the ordinary Russians I met, Firefighters and Muscovites, were some of the most wonderful people I've ever had a chance to intermingle with.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
17. It is very moving that some in Russia realize what their government is up to
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 11:10 PM
Jul 2014

and believe it should stop.

Cha

(297,126 posts)
22. I agree, david... I posted this on Saturday..
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 04:48 AM
Jul 2014

Julia Ioffe @juliaioffe Follow

Muscovites leaving flowers and candles by the Dutch embassy in #Moscow. One note says “Forgive us."

5:45 PM - 17 Jul 2014
154 Retweets 53 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/07/17/smile-it-helps/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5264875

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
19. Interesting what the Russian populations thinks.
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 12:41 AM
Jul 2014

"I think there's lot of proof that we're in closer relations and connections with the separatists in Ukraine. I suppose it's clearly understood that we support them by providing weapons, and so I think it doesn't matter who launched that rocket. Just because we're supporting terrorists, we're involved."

Paying his condolences at the embassy, Muscovite Yuri Yemshanov told CNN it was "difficult to recognize that our country could be involved in this accident."

Cha

(297,126 posts)
24. Mahalo for this. William.. I posted one lone one that I saw on Saturday and now there's more!
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 04:52 AM
Jul 2014

Julia Ioffe @juliaioffe Follow

Muscovites leaving flowers and candles by the Dutch embassy in #Moscow. One note says “Forgive us."

5:45 PM - 17 Jul 2014
154 Retweets 53 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/07/17/smile-it-helps/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5264875

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