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reorg

(3,317 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:04 PM Jul 2014

Obama orders Pentagon advisers to Ukraine to fend off Putin-backed rebels

Source: The Washington Times

By Maggie Ybarra-The Washington Times Tuesday, July 22, 2014

A team of Pentagon officials is heading to Ukraine to help the country rebuild its fractured military, a mission that lawmakers and analysts expect will result in recommendations for greater military assistance in the country’s fight against pro-Russia separatists amid international outrage over the downing of a commercial airplane.

Within the next few weeks, a group of Defense Department representatives who specialize in strategy and policy will head to Kiev to evaluate specific programs that the United States may want to help bolster, said Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.

Their objective is to work with Ukrainians to “shape and establish an enduring program for future U.S. efforts to support the Ukrainian military through subject-matter expert teams and long-term advisers,” he said.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, California Republican, offered qualified support for the plan.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/22/pentagon-team-dispatched-to-ukraine-amid-crisis-wi/



I hope this is false news, since nobody seems to have picked it up except the Kyiv Post:

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/washington-times-obama-orders-pentagon-advisers-to-ukraine-to-fend-off-putin-backed-rebels-357573.html
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Obama orders Pentagon advisers to Ukraine to fend off Putin-backed rebels (Original Post) reorg Jul 2014 OP
we can support rebels and coup governments wherever we like yurbud Jul 2014 #1
We're exceptional. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #2
Gobbledygook! DeSwiss Jul 2014 #3
Col. Steve Warren? reorg Jul 2014 #5
AF? DeSwiss Jul 2014 #6
That part about "long-term advisers" seems ominous. candelista Jul 2014 #13
It's intended to be Gobbledygook zeemike Jul 2014 #16
Dr. Strangelove. GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #20
Washington Times....Fart. BootinUp Jul 2014 #4
For what it's worth RT has also reported this. totodeinhere Jul 2014 #7
Right wing so are the RT Iliyah Jul 2014 #8
Good. Thanks, Mr. President. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #9
What happened to the ones last month ? Did they get lost ? jakeXT Jul 2014 #10
word for word the same passage, LOL reorg Jul 2014 #12
Apparently "training, education, and assistance." GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #21
I wonder if the Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014 can be passed jakeXT Jul 2014 #22
This isn't good, that is how Vietnam escalated out of control. Ash_F Jul 2014 #11
I absolutely agree... lexx21 Jul 2014 #17
Kyiv post is working for the Ukrainian puppet government cosmicone Jul 2014 #14
They're quoting and linking back to the Moonie Times. herding cats Jul 2014 #19
What could possibly go wrong? broiles Jul 2014 #15
I see Sun Myung Moon's legacy lives on. nt herding cats Jul 2014 #18
These morons sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #23

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
1. we can support rebels and coup governments wherever we like
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:12 PM
Jul 2014

but there's something nefarious about it if anyone else does it.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
3. Gobbledygook!
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jul 2014
Their objective is to work with Ukrainians to “shape and establish an enduring program for future U.S. efforts to support the Ukrainian military through subject-matter expert teams and long-term advisers,” he said.


Does anyone know what this means? I think this is English or some similar language, but I won't be held to that assessment. I mean the words are familiar and all. But the order in which they're put mean nothing since after you've finished reading them, it still has no meaning.

- I don't know who wrote this and released it, but I hope for their sake they did so anonymously.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
13. That part about "long-term advisers" seems ominous.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jul 2014

But you're right. One can only guess at what this means. It's the kind of thing they say when they want to keep their options open.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
16. It's intended to be Gobbledygook
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 03:59 PM
Jul 2014

To make what they really intend to do appear noble.

Bottom line, we are going in there with money and bullets, and if that is not enough troupes or a nice Blackwater contract at least...and the downed airliner is the excuse...just as I thought it would be.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
12. word for word the same passage, LOL
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jul 2014
Lainez said that assessment is being viewed as a first step toward helping to "shape and establish an enduring program for future U.S. efforts to support the Ukrainian military through training, education, and assistance."


The Col. must have read it to the caller from the WT when she was eager to learn whether the US will finally DO SOMETHING to go against the evil Russians

Anyway, it is still interesting to see that the US is already "advising" the military of Ukraine (and presumably what kind of hardware they might need).

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
22. I wonder if the Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014 can be passed
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jul 2014

It has goodies like non-NATO ally status

“Provides major non-NATO ally status for Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova (during the period in which each of such countries meets specified criteria) for purposes of the transfer or possible transfer of defense articles or defense services,” and “Directs the President to increase: (1) U.S. Armed Forces interactions with the armed forces of Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, and Serbia; and (2) U.S and NATO security assistance to such states.”

http://journal-neo.org/2014/07/19/legislating-the-way-to-world-war-3/

https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2277

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
11. This isn't good, that is how Vietnam escalated out of control.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 01:11 PM
Jul 2014

Obama shouldn't be going for anything other than a cease-fire, truce or power sharing agreement at this time.

lexx21

(321 posts)
17. I absolutely agree...
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jul 2014

It started with "advisers" then some troops, then an ass load of troops.........

We really need to stay out of that crap completely.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
19. They're quoting and linking back to the Moonie Times.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:15 PM
Jul 2014

My guess is it's another Washington Times exaggeration.

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