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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:18 AM Jul 2014

Israeli Airstrike Hits Main Gaza Hospital, Palestinian Officials Say

Source: CBS / AP

Israeli airstrike hits main Gaza hospital, Palestinian officials say

CBS/AP
Jul 28, 2014 10:54 AM EDT

REUTERS/Finbarr O'Reilly
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip -- The Gaza police operations room and a Palestinian health official say separate Israeli airstrikes hit the compound of Gaza City's main hospital and a nearby park, causing casualties.

The Israeli military had no immediate comment.

Camera crews were prevented from filming the area of impact at Shifa Hospital. Health official Ayman Sahabani says several people were wounded in the strikes.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-airstrikes-hit-main-gaza-hospital-palestinian-officials-say/



@GregMitch: NBC now says 30 dead in the strikes on camp and hospital and IDs Israel as culprit (despite Israel's usual denials). http://t.co/m7HopNSNiM/s/7Ioo

@AP: BREAKING: Israeli military: rockets misfired by Palestinian militants hit Gaza hospital, nearby park.

@GregMitch: Debunking Israel's claim--NBC journo says he saw missile that hit hospital fired from an Israeli drone. http://t.co/m7HopNSNiM/s/eJqm

@AP: MORE: Palestinian official says 10 people, including children, killed in strike on park in Gaza" http://t.co/YrWZ1vALjz/s/hB5Q

@Reuters: VIDEO: Baby delivered in #Gaza hospital from womb of mother whom medics said was killed in air strike: http://t.co/vjePpHLYoJ/s/RtFx
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Israeli Airstrike Hits Main Gaza Hospital, Palestinian Officials Say (Original Post) Hissyspit Jul 2014 OP
"Palestinian Officials Say" seveneyes Jul 2014 #1
@GregMitch: For 3 days Israel claimed it did not hit that UN school and many in media took it seriou Hissyspit Jul 2014 #2
Or NBC journalist witness: Debunking Israel's claim--NBC journo says he saw Hissyspit Jul 2014 #3
Ayman Mohyeldin also alsame Jul 2014 #4
Wolf Blitzer yesterday.... CherokeeDem Jul 2014 #10
Hama's rockets aren't powerful enough to cause this much damage. nt killbotfactory Jul 2014 #16
NBC reporter witnessed it Marrah_G Jul 2014 #35
"Camera crews were prevented from filming the area of impact at Shifa Hospital." seveneyes Jul 2014 #5
Yes curious minds might want to know....... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #6
Absolutely! They will atone; I would bet ballyhoo Jul 2014 #7
Whoa there leftynyc Jul 2014 #8
The article doesn't say Hamas was keeping cameras away. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #11
Everyone has compassion when a hospital is hit, but.... George II Jul 2014 #12
You are making me very dizzy. Hissyspit Jul 2014 #15
What does this even mean in reality? bravenak Jul 2014 #26
is that kinda like how liberals celebrated the deaths of US service personnel in Iraq.. frylock Jul 2014 #29
This is the same hospital swilton Jul 2014 #9
It is still unknown where the missile/rocket/bomb came from. George II Jul 2014 #13
Some on DU will not 840high Jul 2014 #17
Some? George II Jul 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Jul 2014 #23
There have been several eyewitness reports about who fired it, along with video footage. stranger81 Jul 2014 #19
So where is the video? George II Jul 2014 #20
MSNBC captured video and they've been airing it on their livestream. stranger81 Jul 2014 #21
I have been unable to find any video on either MSNBC or CBS George II Jul 2014 #27
Greg Mitchell @GregMitch · 11h Doctor at Shifa hospital w/ apt Twitter response to Israel claiming Hissyspit Jul 2014 #37
And? George II Jul 2014 #38
There are witnesses, and most of the rockets Hamas fires off aren't very powerful killbotfactory Jul 2014 #39
One day later, the so-called video still hasn't surfaced anywhere. George II Jul 2014 #40
Curious, isn't it? Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #41
Possibly....and today Hamas rockets were found hidden in a UN operated school.... George II Jul 2014 #42
Disgusting. Shame on them. 840high Jul 2014 #43
An answer I would expect from you. 840high Jul 2014 #24
Not sure what that's supposed to mean. stranger81 Jul 2014 #25
Sorry - I was in a bad mood. 840high Jul 2014 #33
No harm, no foul. stranger81 Jul 2014 #36
Oh for fuck's sake. Hissyspit Jul 2014 #22
clearly, he hates the Jews frylock Jul 2014 #31
is that what your sensing? frylock Jul 2014 #30
War crime! Disgrace! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #14
Headline changed: Israelis, Palestinians trade blame for deadly airstrikes on park, hospital oberliner Jul 2014 #28
How About a Simpler Headline: "War Kills." McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #32
Excellent post. 840high Jul 2014 #34

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
2. @GregMitch: For 3 days Israel claimed it did not hit that UN school and many in media took it seriou
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:28 AM
Jul 2014

@GregMitch: For 3 days Israel claimed it did not hit that UN school and many in media took it seriously. So: why not try again? http://t.co/m7HopNSNiM/s/GUNX

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
3. Or NBC journalist witness: Debunking Israel's claim--NBC journo says he saw
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jul 2014

@GregMitch: Debunking Israel's claim--NBC journo says he saw missile that hit hospital fired from an Israeli drone. http://t.co/m7HopNSNiM/s/eJqm

alsame

(7,784 posts)
4. Ayman Mohyeldin also
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jul 2014

Ayman Mohyeldin @AymanM · 8m

Our own cameras and pictures of the attack on the complex @GileadIni @JoshBlockDC @nbc @AviMayer @IDFSpokesperson

https://twitter.com/AymanM/with_replies

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
10. Wolf Blitzer yesterday....
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jul 2014

in an interview with an Israeli government official who admitted Israeli hit the UN school being used as shelter, but denied anyone died. Said once again, Hamas was hiding in the hospital. I am sorry, I do not have a link but I imagine the interview might be on CNN.com.

I realize this is a complicated situation, but the constant bombardment and killing of innocents and children needs to stop.

My question is why not blow the tunnels up from the Israeli side? They did not need to go into Gaza to destroy these tunnels. And why now... if they've known about the tunnels, why were they still usable.

I understand the root issues here and I do not in any way condone any action of any terrorist. What I don't understand is Israel's behavior in this situation. There are other ways.

It's a sad, sad situation and it needs to be resolved, so that no more people die.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
5. "Camera crews were prevented from filming the area of impact at Shifa Hospital."
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jul 2014

A curious, critical and uninvolved person would wonder why.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
6. Yes curious minds might want to know.......
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jul 2014

Quite honestly I think when you are dealing with humans who may have been injured or are trapped, etc. the frigging media needs to be kept away.

You are clearly an Israeli apologist that believes Israel can do no wrong. I am at the point where we should be targeting our drones on the Israeli government. They have become terrorists.

Do you have absolutely no human compassion for hitting a hospital?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
8. Whoa there
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 01:07 PM
Jul 2014

All the person did was ask why hamas was keeping cameras away and you immediately call them an apologist. You can't possibly believe it's because they don't want anyone to see people injured or trapped. Do I get to call you a terrorist apologist for deciding, without any evidence, that hamas is telling the truth here?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
11. The article doesn't say Hamas was keeping cameras away.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jul 2014

"The strike on the park occurred a few minutes after the hospital's outpatient clinic was hit, leaving several people wounded. Camera crews were prevented from filming the area of impact at Shifa."

Maybe it was Hamas. Maybe it was shocked and enraged family members of victims. I've seen some hostility toward Western media in Gaza in the past few days on the part of Gazans. I saw a clip yesterday where a Western camera crew was prevented from filming the retrieval of a body from the rubble. It wasn't Hamas; it was family members.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Everyone has compassion when a hospital is hit, but....
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jul 2014

....many here seem to almost GLOAT when it can be (possibly falsely) said that Israel was responsible.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
26. What does this even mean in reality?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jul 2014

Are you implying that Israel always comes clean when they bomb a hospital? They said they didn't do it last time , now they admit it. We know people were killed last time but they deny any deaths.

They will have to fess up to this one too. Don't assist the cover up. Not cool or rightous.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
29. is that kinda like how liberals celebrated the deaths of US service personnel in Iraq..
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jul 2014

is that the kind of GLOATING you're talking about?

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
9. This is the same hospital
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 01:09 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:53 PM - Edit history (1)

(I think) that the Democracy Now correspondent/doctor/peace activist Mads Gilbert has been working at. I hope that he is okay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Gilbert

Please be safe Dr. Gilbert!


Discussion on Vanity Fair on responsibility for the strike with report from Ayman Mohyeldin.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/07/gaza-shifa-hospital-bombing

Response to George II (Reply #18)

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
19. There have been several eyewitness reports about who fired it, along with video footage.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:18 PM
Jul 2014

Or are you waiting for the IDF press release?

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
21. MSNBC captured video and they've been airing it on their livestream.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jul 2014

CBS also reportedly has footage of its own.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
37. Greg Mitchell @GregMitch · 11h Doctor at Shifa hospital w/ apt Twitter response to Israel claiming
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:45 PM
Jul 2014

Greg Mitchell @GregMitch · 11h
Doctor at Shifa hospital w/ apt Twitter response to Israel claiming it did not fire: "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?" http://bit.ly/1uzgaC6

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
39. There are witnesses, and most of the rockets Hamas fires off aren't very powerful
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 12:06 AM
Jul 2014

When you want plausible deniability, you need to offer a plausible theory of events.

George II

(67,782 posts)
42. Possibly....and today Hamas rockets were found hidden in a UN operated school....
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 10:27 PM
Jul 2014

...confirming what Israel has been speculating for weeks.

Hamas is sacrificing their own children and civilians for political points. Disgustingly tragic.

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
25. Not sure what that's supposed to mean.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jul 2014

I simply identified the media outlets that say they have video of the incident. It's an easily verifiable statement of fact.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
22. Oh for fuck's sake.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jul 2014

@GregMitch: Debunking Israel's claim--NBC journo says he saw missile that hit hospital fired from an Israeli drone. http://t.co/m7HopNSNiM/s/eJqm

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. Headline changed: Israelis, Palestinians trade blame for deadly airstrikes on park, hospital
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jul 2014

Interesting tidbit:

Camera crews were prevented from filming the area of impact at Shifa.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
32. How About a Simpler Headline: "War Kills."
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 06:10 PM
Jul 2014

At this point, I don't think it even matters who is firing the missiles. There are children dying. Anyone who has his or her finger on a trigger--any trigger--at this point is equally to blame for every death of every child. And that includes the ones giving the orders to fire, too. If this were a bank robbery, the guy in the get away car would be held liable for anyone shot inside.

Everyone holding a weapon in this conflict needs to put their weapon down or carry the guilt forever. This is not self defense for either side. This is murder.

And why does no one ask the obvious question? How many of the supposed "Hamas" fighters are really agitators who have infiltrated Gaza under orders from Al Qaeda/Saudi Arabia to provoke a war that will kill Palestinian citizens so that Al Qaeda can use their deaths as a recruitment tool? I do not believe that the people of Gaza would knowingly, willingly put their own children at risk like this. However, I can believe that foreigner assassins would do it, if they were paid enough. Or if they were told it was good for the cause. And Israel responds to the provocation as if it does not have a clue that someone somewhere may be poking it with a big stick deliberately.

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