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Omaha Steve

(99,566 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 06:21 PM Jul 2014

Israeli PM warns of prolonged campaign in Gaza war

Source: AP-Excite

By KARIN LAUB and TIA GOLDENBERG

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Israel's prime minister warned Monday that the country faced a prolonged campaign against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, as the military urged residents in parts of the embattled territory to evacuate ahead of what appeared to be a broadening of the three-week war.

"What is coming will be worse," the Israeli military said in phone messages targeting Gaza militants.

Israeli leaders have been mulling whether to expand the assault against Hamas in Gaza, or respond to international calls for a truce.

The international community so far has been unable to bring about a cease-fire that would end the fighting, which has already killed at least 1,050 Palestinians, 52 Israeli soldiers and three civilians on the Israeli side.

FULL story at link.



Palestinian relatives mourn for Baraa Mogdadm, 6, who was killed along with 9 other people, all but one of them children, in an explosion at a park at Shati refugee camp, in the northern Gaza Strip, Monday, July 28, 2014. Israeli and Palestinian authorities traded blame over the attack and fighting in the Gaza war raged on despite a major Muslim holiday. (AP Photo/Adel Hana)


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20140728/ml--israel-palestinians-5c3c7979c2.html

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Israeli PM warns of prolonged campaign in Gaza war (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2014 OP
The man is a war monger and war criminal. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #1
How "prolonged" can it be... DeadLetterOffice Jul 2014 #2
Until the rest of the world sidesteps the US on the issue, I think. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #5
Wars between nations or peoples end generally in one of three ways. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #19
the children of gaza hang tough! jonjensen Jul 2014 #3
Because being 'tough' is effective against rockets? DeadLetterOffice Jul 2014 #7
apparently not enough Palestinian blood has been shed to satisfy Israel nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #4
Evacuate to WHERE? Marrah_G Jul 2014 #6
I guess they could swim 200 miles to Cyprus... DeadLetterOffice Jul 2014 #8
Ecept that they can't go out past a mile into the sea........... Marrah_G Jul 2014 #12
It's sad how hospitals aren't even safe Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #9
The grave Aerows Jul 2014 #11
This is why the PM should be on our list whether that is Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #10
The thing is, at this point, he's wildly popular among Israelis... regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #13
Isn't he a neocon favorite? Kingofalldems Jul 2014 #14
Oh yes. Yes indeed. DeadLetterOffice Jul 2014 #16
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #15
Just who's military do you think is up for that? EX500rider Jul 2014 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #21
Except for the whole Iron Dome and Patriot missile batteries thing. EX500rider Jul 2014 #22
Don't kill his boner. Throd Jul 2014 #23
"What is coming will be worse," the Israeli military said in phone messages.... DeSwiss Jul 2014 #18
Live feed Marrah_G Jul 2014 #20
Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya...now Gaza. roamer65 Jul 2014 #24
Netanyahu is committing mass murder. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #25
It's been a very bad night in Gaza Marrah_G Jul 2014 #26

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
2. How "prolonged" can it be...
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 06:55 PM
Jul 2014

...before they simply kill the entire population?

And Palestinian civilians should evacuate to where exactly? To paraphrase Jon Stewart -- are they just supposed to swim for it?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. Wars between nations or peoples end generally in one of three ways.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:25 PM
Jul 2014

1) a negotiated peace that is enforced on each side. Think Korea

2) the attacking side, the side that has entered foreign soil packs up and goes home. Think of the Mongols who stopped fighting when they apparently realized that the terrain ahead of them would not provide enough food for their many, many horses.

3) one side vanquishes, conquers the other.

What does Israel have to lose by trying for the third? It feels its existence is threatened by the Palestinians. It has been unable to negotiate a peace that makes it feel secure.

I'm not saying Israel will choose this or that. I would prefer a negotiated peace.

But to be honest, I don't know that Israel thinks it has anything to gain through negotiation or anything to lose by simply destroying Gaza. It is a horrible thought, but strategically, what are Israel's options. If it just gave the Palestinians land without a change in the desire of Palestinians to return to Jerusalem and the land that Israel is situated on, what are its choices?

Just give up? I don't think Israel will choose that. That's my view of the strategy.

I still wish Kerry and Obama well in the negotiations.

Blessed are the peacemakers . . .. .

 

jonjensen

(168 posts)
3. the children of gaza hang tough!
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jul 2014

The courage and determination of the children of gaza is being weighed on the scales of destiny and not found wanting! This is a contest between the corrupt netanayhu(google netanayhu crook) and the children of gaza to see who is tougher. Who can take a licking and come back for more saying "is that all you got bibi?

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
7. Because being 'tough' is effective against rockets?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jul 2014

They're not 'tough,' they're TRAPPED.

Your expressed perspective -- it's all about who's tougher! and DESTINY! -- simply furthers the war mentality that underlies this kind of barbarism. It's not a CONTEST, it's GENOCIDE.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
8. I guess they could swim 200 miles to Cyprus...
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jul 2014

Hard to do that with your kid sister on your back, though.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. It's sad how hospitals aren't even safe
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:30 PM
Jul 2014

People are badly wounded by Israeli bombs and then when they go to the hospital to have their wounds treated, they're attacked again as they sleep in their hospital beds.

It's savage.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
10. This is why the PM should be on our list whether that is
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jul 2014

removal by political or "other" means. It might avoid a costly trial.

The Israeli government are complicit in crimes against humanity and should be taken out or brought to the Hague for trial including Bibi the coward.

Immediately take away our patriot missiles and other sophisticated American hardware. Terminate all financial aid to Israel including military and watch Israel finally realize they are a nobody country, a country nobody cares about. They are not special. They are just a bunch of squatters living on the land the UN gave them in 1948 as an apology for the Holocaust. Israel is nothing more than that.

Once they realize they are nobody they will come to the table and negotiate in good faith. Until that happens the U.S. will just be their bitch.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
13. The thing is, at this point, he's wildly popular among Israelis...
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jul 2014

If he were to be "removed," it's safe to assume that his replacement would be every bit as hard-line, or worse.



DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
16. Oh yes. Yes indeed.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:08 PM
Jul 2014

Because he is crazy enough and power-hungry enough to reduce the 'Holy Land' to fucking ASHES.
Which will hasten the arrival of the rapture, don'cha know? And neo-cons do love themselves some rapture...

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

EX500rider

(10,834 posts)
17. Just who's military do you think is up for that?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:14 PM
Jul 2014

Even the US would have trouble with the Israeli Air Force, they have over 400 F-15's and F-16's with well trained crews.

While the the USAF has about 2,000 fighters in service, most are no where near Israel.
And US carriers usually have no more then 3 squadrons of F-18's on board, about 36 planes.

Response to EX500rider (Reply #17)

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
18. "What is coming will be worse," the Israeli military said in phone messages....
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:16 PM
Jul 2014
- It may be worse for you, you arrogant prick.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
24. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya...now Gaza.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:34 PM
Jul 2014

One CF after another.

I think the regional war is underway.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
26. It's been a very bad night in Gaza
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jul 2014

Sun is finally up....watched them bomb the seaport and get pretty close to the brave young man doing the livestream.

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