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Judi Lynn (144,862 posts)

Ferguson prosecutor says he knew some witnesses were ‘clearly not telling the truth.’ They testified

Source: Washington Post

Ferguson prosecutor says he knew some witnesses were ‘clearly not telling the truth.’ They testified anyway.
By Peter Holley December 20 at 7:00 PM

St. Louis County prosecuting attorney Bob McColluch knowingly placed witnesses who were not telling the truth in front of grand jurors investigating this summer’s police officer-involved shooting death of Michael Brown, according to a radio interview he gave Friday.

After nearly a month of silence following the the grand jury’s decision not to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, McCulloch told St. Louis radio station KTRS 550 AM that some of the witnesses were “clearly not telling the truth,” but were allowed them to testify anyway.

“Early on, I decided that anyone who claimed to have witnessed anything was gonna be presented to the grand jury,” McCulloch said, noting that “And I knew that no matter how I handled this, there would be criticism of it. So if I didn’t put those witnesses on, then we’d be discussing now why I didn’t put those witnesses on, even though their statements were not accurate.”

On Monday, the Smoking Gun published a story revealing the identity and troubled history of “Witness 40,” a woman whose elaborate story of witnessing Brown’s death was allegedly taken from newspaper accounts. The woman, who told investigators that she is racist, bi-polar and has raised money for Wilson, approached prosecutors five weeks after the Aug. 9 shooting. In a journal entry that she showed the grand jury, the woman said she had driven through Ferguson at the time of the shooting “so I stop calling Blacks N—— and Start calling them People.”

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/20/ferguson-prosecutor-says-he-knew-some-witnesses-were-clearly-not-telling-the-truth-they-testified-anyway/?tid=hpModule_9d3add6c-8a79-11e2-98d9-3012c1cd8d1e

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Ferguson prosecutor says he knew some witnesses were ‘clearly not telling the truth.’ They testified (Original post)	Judi Lynn	Dec 2014	OP
Didn't McCulloch quote witness #40 when he gave his spiel after the grand jury voted not to indict.	Jim__	Dec 2014	#1
I think you're right. On MSNBC they showed their show hosts repeating that "charging" quote	Judi Lynn	Dec 2014	#3
He paraphrased the testimony of an unnamed witness or witnesses. I believe	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#5
Kicking for more exposure - nt	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#2
WTF?? n/t	bvf	Dec 2014	#4
it is called	Old Codger	Dec 2014	#6
Thank you. Well stated. n/t	Judi Lynn	Dec 2014	#8
In theory, but we all know he won't be charged	davidpdx	Dec 2014	#9
We can hope	Old Codger	Dec 2014	#12
There have been rumors about he and McCaskill possibly both running for governor	davidpdx	Dec 2014	#13
+1 nt	Live and Learn	Dec 2014	#16
Your understanding is suborning perjury is not accurate. The key element that is missing is the	24601	Dec 2014	#20
OK but	Old Codger	Dec 2014	#21
Attorneys have an ethical obligation to avoid presenting/allowing to be presented ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2014	#27
In the US, you can pretty much sue anyone for anything. But having a case that isn't immediately	24601	Dec 2014	#28
Agreed ... I think ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2014	#29
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2014	#7
Whatever happened to the rule against 'suborning perjury'? n/t	PoliticAverse	Dec 2014	#10
But just to confuse the grand jury a bit more, he thought " What the hay?"	Dont call me Shirley	Dec 2014	#11
This so-called prosecutor deserves the big	mrdmk	Dec 2014	#14
This prosecutor is a joke	IHateTheGOP	Dec 2014	#15
Don't see anything funny about him.	lark	Dec 2014	#18
This begs the question	TNNurse	Dec 2014	#17
How is this guy still DA? Why the hell has HE not been charged? Can he be disbarred for this?	diabeticman	Dec 2014	#19
The criminal actions of MCColluch has cause this nation lots of pain. He is the reason for all	sammy750	Dec 2014	#22
he also allowed all the witnesses	santroy79	Dec 2014	#23
It's all chaff.	Jackpine Radical	Dec 2014	#30
Why is he being prosecuted? Missourans should be getting signatures at the very least!	vkkv	Dec 2014	#24
Witnesses claiming an execution style head shot were clearly lying based on forensics	hugo_from_TN	Dec 2014	#25
The problem is not, so much, that he placed ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2014	#26
It's clear MANY witnesses lied, based on the forensic records	NickB79	Dec 2014	#31
I wonder	adieu	Dec 2014	#32
Can the bar association get involved in this?	truebluegreen	Dec 2014	#33
He should be disbarred	Helen Borg	Dec 2014	#34
I get that.	truebluegreen	Dec 2014	#35

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:10 PM

Jim__ (12,523 posts)

1. Didn't McCulloch quote witness #40 when he gave his spiel after the grand jury voted not to indict.

I remember him quoting a grand juror saying something like Brown put his head and charged Wilson like a football player. Wasn't that the testimony of witness #40?

Ferguson prosecutor says he knew some witnesses were ‘clearly not telling the truth.’ They testified

1. Didn't McCulloch quote witness #40 when he gave his spiel after the grand jury voted not to indict.

3. I think you're right. On MSNBC they showed their show hosts repeating that "charging" quote

5. He paraphrased the testimony of an unnamed witness or witnesses. I believe

2. Kicking for more exposure - nt

4. WTF?? n/t

6. it is called

8. Thank you. Well stated. n/t

9. In theory, but we all know he won't be charged

12. We can hope

13. There have been rumors about he and McCaskill possibly both running for governor

16. +1 nt

20. Your understanding is suborning perjury is not accurate. The key element that is missing is the

21. OK but

27. Attorneys have an ethical obligation to avoid presenting/allowing to be presented ...

28. In the US, you can pretty much sue anyone for anything. But having a case that isn't immediately

29. Agreed ... I think ...

10. Whatever happened to the rule against 'suborning perjury'? n/t

11. But just to confuse the grand jury a bit more, he thought " What the hay?"

14. This so-called prosecutor deserves the big

15. This prosecutor is a joke

18. Don't see anything funny about him.

17. This begs the question

19. How is this guy still DA? Why the hell has HE not been charged? Can he be disbarred for this?

22. The criminal actions of MCColluch has cause this nation lots of pain. He is the reason for all

23. he also allowed all the witnesses

30. It's all chaff.

24. Why is he being prosecuted? Missourans should be getting signatures at the very least!

25. Witnesses claiming an execution style head shot were clearly lying based on forensics

26. The problem is not, so much, that he placed ...

31. It's clear MANY witnesses lied, based on the forensic records

32. I wonder

33. Can the bar association get involved in this?

34. He should be disbarred

35. I get that.