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iandhr

(6,852 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 08:49 PM Jan 2015

Former Governor Mario Cuomo Dies at 82

Source: New York 1

NY1 has learned that former Governor Mario Cuomo has died at the age of 82.

This comes just hours after Andrew Cuomo was publicly inaugurated for his second term as the 56th governor of New York.

Governor Cuomo said in his speech at One World Trade Center that his father was unable to attend because he was too ill. He also said he and his family had spent New Year's eve with the senior Cuomo.


Read more: http://www.ny1.com/content/news/221243/breaking--former-governor-mario-cuomo-dies-at-82/

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Former Governor Mario Cuomo Dies at 82 (Original Post) iandhr Jan 2015 OP
RIP Mr. Cuomo. GGJohn Jan 2015 #1
Rsst in peace Governor. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #2
Oh sad….He was my hero. So bright, such a terrific speaker. Sad sad sad. Demoiselle Jan 2015 #3
He was such an eloquent speaker... hlthe2b Jan 2015 #4
Yes indeed and well said - n/t mazzarro Jan 2015 #37
sad to hear this JI7 Jan 2015 #5
I loved that man.....and what a speaker. George II Jan 2015 #6
Very sad news nt oberliner Jan 2015 #7
That is very sad, and condolences to his family. If only his son would learn something from his still_one Jan 2015 #8
Sad. RIP 840high Jan 2015 #9
RIP... Tom_Foolery Jan 2015 #10
Me, too. GoCubsGo Jan 2015 #14
Me, three... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 2015 #50
So saddened to hear this. He was a good man! RKP5637 Jan 2015 #11
Great man. I feel very old tonight. Faygo Kid Jan 2015 #12
His convention speech... DonViejo Jan 2015 #13
I remember that speech vividly, except that it seemed very long (I didn't want it to end!).... George II Jan 2015 #41
In the gutter where the glitter doesn't show hibbing Jan 2015 #47
I've replayed that speech a dozen times since the invention of youtube JBoy Jan 2015 #56
He was a great man. And a true legend. RIP (eom) StevieM Jan 2015 #15
RIP, Sir. City Lights Jan 2015 #16
A man who's name ended in a vowel DID get elected. El Supremo Jan 2015 #17
Man, I remember his Democratic Convention speech - he ROCKED the HOUSE! calimary Jan 2015 #18
I remember seeing that speech too, and thinking he'd make a good president NBachers Jan 2015 #23
That's what his son, Andrew is aiming for. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #25
Hmmm... yeah, I suspect that, too. calimary Jan 2015 #71
Of course... RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #72
Thanks much, RoccoR5955! calimary Jan 2015 #73
It's the whole thing RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #74
How awful! He was one of the best ever - and my governor. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2015 #19
Mine too. He was inspirational. nt Raine1967 Jan 2015 #29
I really wish we could have him back. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2015 #36
RIP Mr. Cuomo - you always inspired me. n/t cosmicone Jan 2015 #20
He was s powerful gift. Peace Mr. Cuomo. Not making Dems. like this much anymore, the firebrands. appalachiablue Jan 2015 #21
So sad PennyK Jan 2015 #22
RIP Uncle Mario RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #24
I was a big fan whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #26
I really wanted this man to run for POTU. May he rest in peace. Raine1967 Jan 2015 #27
A great Democrat TNNurse Jan 2015 #28
You ain't kidding. n/m El Supremo Jan 2015 #34
My sincere condolences to his family. Boomerproud Jan 2015 #30
Here we go... bobclark86 Jan 2015 #31
One of the greats who declined to be greater... tokenlib Jan 2015 #32
Governor Mario Cuomo (1984) complete speech DNC Douglas Carpenter Jan 2015 #33
Social darwinism....in other words we are Republican guinea pigs...... Historic NY Jan 2015 #49
RIP (nt) bigwillq Jan 2015 #35
I was so proud to have him as Governor of my home state. DinahMoeHum Jan 2015 #38
RIP Mario Cuomo - one of the best LiberalElite Jan 2015 #39
RIP Dear Mario Cuomo. Thanks for the inspiring words. Overseas Jan 2015 #40
What a wonderful guy! We were so lucky to have him. amandabeech Jan 2015 #42
RIP Governor workinclasszero Jan 2015 #43
A great Democrat. Octafish Jan 2015 #44
Tweety will be all over this next week he worked for Cuomo bigdarryl Jan 2015 #45
That will be a most nauseating spectacle of insincerity and hypocrisy.. tokenlib Jan 2015 #52
Mr. Matthews never H2O Man Jan 2015 #61
I though he did my mistake then bigdarryl Jan 2015 #67
Chris Matthews H2O Man Jan 2015 #70
To his son DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #46
Very sad news Renew Deal Jan 2015 #48
Only big mistake he ever made was not running for president in 1992 Reter Jan 2015 #51
Another might be that he had the chance to sit on the Supreme Court whathehell Jan 2015 #68
Ugh. R.I.P. BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #53
RIP jdenver_2624 Jan 2015 #54
He made it bearable to be a liberal in the depths of Reagan-era darkness BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #55
Good man..... glinda Jan 2015 #57
RIP Governor Mario Cuomo NecklyTyler Jan 2015 #58
Not, in any way, to make light of Gov. Cuomo's passing . . . markpkessinger Jan 2015 #59
this was the first thing I thought of: niyad Jan 2015 #64
Gov. Cuomo saw reality v Ronnie Raygun's 1% view ... 66 dmhlt Jan 2015 #60
Would've been a great president 1step Jan 2015 #62
K&R Hugin Jan 2015 #63
gentle crossing to you, good and faithful servant. niyad Jan 2015 #65
Heard This Earlier This AM... ChiciB1 Jan 2015 #66
So much said in that 1984 speech could be said today. bearssoapbox Jan 2015 #69
His keynote address will always stand out as the best question everything Jan 2015 #75
. Mugu Jan 2015 #76

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
4. He was such an eloquent speaker...
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 08:52 PM
Jan 2015

We lose a lot when we lose these "old school" democrats. RIP, sir

still_one

(92,131 posts)
8. That is very sad, and condolences to his family. If only his son would learn something from his
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jan 2015

father

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
14. Me, too.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:17 PM
Jan 2015

I'll have to settle for hoping that one day I'll get to vote for someone just like him. But, sadly, I'll probably see the Cubs win a World Series before that happens.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. I remember that speech vividly, except that it seemed very long (I didn't want it to end!)....
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 10:08 PM
Jan 2015

....was it really less than 8 minutes?

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
47. In the gutter where the glitter doesn't show
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:34 PM
Jan 2015

I also remember that speech, I'm sure I cried during it. That is what members of the Democratic wing of the Democratic party used to sound like.

Peace

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
56. I've replayed that speech a dozen times since the invention of youtube
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 01:34 AM
Jan 2015

Quite frankly the greatest speech of my (50+ year) lifetime.

RIP Mr Cuomo.

calimary

(81,210 posts)
18. Man, I remember his Democratic Convention speech - he ROCKED the HOUSE!
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:26 PM
Jan 2015

I remember him making the case for a Democrat in the White House because if a republi-CON got in, they would be "unrestrained! Unrestrained!" - as far as picking shit-ass Supreme Court justices. He was instantly a star. Touted as a future presidential shoo-in. That unfortunately never came to pass. Any presidential hopes he had never got off the ground. A shame.

Peaceful sleep, Mr. Governor. And safe passage.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
25. That's what his son, Andrew is aiming for.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jan 2015

Every decision that he has made as governor of NY is proof of this.

calimary

(81,210 posts)
71. Hmmm... yeah, I suspect that, too.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:49 PM
Jan 2015

Not thoroughly studied-up on Andrew Cuomo but I am VERY concerned about at least one of his policies (in my limited understanding of it). I kept seeing this commercial promoting New York's new pro-business outreach. Businesses relocate to New York and pay NO TAXES - for TEN YEARS??? NO TAXES FOR TEN YEARS??? And what is their civic obligation then? What do they do to infuse the local community then? Is it simply the naive hope that "creating jobs" is the magic bullet, and the only cure-all we need? Are we sure, in that program, that AT LEAST they're required to create jobs IN the community, rather than outsourcing? Are there ANY obligations to the local economy? ANY obligations to the local infrastructure? ANY obligations to be accountable and responsive to the community in which they make their money and generate their profits? ANY attempts to make them share part of that wealth with the community in which they now live and presumably thrive? Or are they just allowed to keep it all - with NO benefits shared with the community that generates that profit for them?

I saw that commercial and was really disturbed by it. It looks like a reckless short-sighted giveaway program to me. More gifts to the already-have-MORE-than-enoughs. More comfort to the already comfortable. Are there ANY strings attached? Or is this just another freebie for business? Shit - the states NEED that money from business. They NEED the tax money generated by business activity. Businesses should ALWAYS be compelled to contribute - to help out - for the greater good of the community in which they do business and make their money and generate their profits and their sources of comfort. And in some cases in New York, I'd suspect that would be rather LAVISH comfort that should be taxed a lot more (like Wall Street, for example). We can't afford extravagant giveaways and freebies to business. I'm sorry, but they live here, too, and they have to cough it up, too, just like the rest of us who live here have to do. I can understand governors and state legislatures wanting to lure business to their states. But with such a reckless giveaway??? Doesn't sound like a good deal to me for anybody but the business interests - who aren't exactly renowned for their willingness to share.

Any New Yorkers here who can explain this to me?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
72. Of course...
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jan 2015

This is a big boon to businesses.
Essentially, the plan is to lease or sell property in proximity to State University campuses and other places owned by the State to businesses, and give them the okay to build on it, and have their businesses there and pay no taxes for ten years.
Most of the money to do this comes from "savings" in other state agencies, and a large portion is being spend on advertising.

A lot of this comes to attract businesses to places like the new world trade center, and areas effected by hurricane Sandy.

As far as I am concerned, it is a giveaway to the ad agency that came up with the ad campaign.

You can get all the info you need at startup.ny.gov

calimary

(81,210 posts)
73. Thanks much, RoccoR5955!
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:32 AM
Jan 2015

I just hate to see more of these giveaways to business with NOTHING attached that compels them to give back to the community or otherwise be responsible to anything other than their own profit margins.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
74. It's the whole thing
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jan 2015

That states try to "compete" for businesses to settle there. They were going to southern states, because there is less of a tax burden there, but there are fewer services. People do not understand that with taxes, we get services. People want services, but do not want to pay for them. Corporations are the same. They want skilled, well educated workers, but they don't want to pay for them. They want good roads, but they don't want to pay for them. Granted, here in the north, there is more of a cost with the necessity of snow removal, and heating expenses in the winter, but that should be outweighed by the fact that there are more skilled, educated workers here. Unfortunately, many of these workers have moved south, because they would rather not have four seasons, and hate shoveling snow. (I'll give them the hating to shovel snow, but I want four distinct seasons, and am willing to make some sacrifices for that.)

I only wish to hell that people would understand that if they want these services, which was, at one time, called "the commons," that they have to pay for them.

PennyK

(2,302 posts)
22. So sad
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:29 PM
Jan 2015

I got to hear him speak, perhaps ten years ago - I don't recall now what group did the event - but he was eloquent and wonderful. I remember I got to ask him a question - I think it was about what he thought of Al Gore (positive). He will be missed.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
27. I really wanted this man to run for POTU. May he rest in peace.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:36 PM
Jan 2015

Very proud to say he was my Governor. He was a great Dem, IMO

Boomerproud

(7,951 posts)
30. My sincere condolences to his family.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:37 PM
Jan 2015

I only wish we could have voted him in because he was so gifted. Rest in peace Governor.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
32. One of the greats who declined to be greater...
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:37 PM
Jan 2015

I am saddened by his passing. One of our best communicators....

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
49. Social darwinism....in other words we are Republican guinea pigs......
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 12:06 AM
Jan 2015

they are already lining up their budget plans to line the pockets of the rich at the expense of the poor.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
52. That will be a most nauseating spectacle of insincerity and hypocrisy..
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 12:49 AM
Jan 2015

Tweety floats like a piece of refuse blown about in the street by the wind....no core, no foundation...

H2O Man

(73,534 posts)
70. Chris Matthews
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 07:03 PM
Jan 2015

worked for Senator Frank Moss; then Ed Muskie; was a speech-writer for President Carter; then worked for Speaker Tip O'Neill. His work for O'Neill was the most important of the positions he held, at least in my opinion. (I don't think he was a good fit with President Carter.)

If I were to guess -- and that's all I'm doing -- I'd venture that Matthews will likely focus upon the frustration he felt when Mario Cuomo had trouble in deciding if he would enter the Democratic primaries in 1988 and '92. I think the nation would have benefited from a Mario Cuomo presidency.

I was fortunate to have the opportunity to meet with Governor Cuomo a few times. These were always in the context of Native American issues. I had come to have great respect for him, back when he served as NYS's Lieutenant Governor; he always treated the traditional Iroquois was the utmost respect. He tended to take that same approach as governor, something that wasn't popular with significant powerful non-Indian interests, both in NY and nation-wide.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
46. To his son
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:10 PM
Jan 2015

Whenever you go hard to the right, look at your father, who took so many hits from the mealy mouthed centre-right types, and ask if he would approve.

Todays Democrats would make Mario Puke, and we all know it.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
48. Very sad news
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jan 2015

I got to see him once crossing the street on 6th avenue around 10 years ago. I said hi and he said hi back.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
51. Only big mistake he ever made was not running for president in 1992
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 12:24 AM
Jan 2015

He would have been an amazing one.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
68. Another might be that he had the chance to sit on the Supreme Court
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jan 2015

but turned it down to run for governor.

He was a great Democrat, nonetheless.

Rip Mario

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
55. He made it bearable to be a liberal in the depths of Reagan-era darkness
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 01:33 AM
Jan 2015

His 1984 keynote will go down as one of the most memorable political speeches ever. He shamed the neocons, even if the country wasn't ready for it. He was so wise and reasonable. Even his most ardent opponents had to listen. You couldn't take your ears off of him.

RIP Governor.

NecklyTyler

(1,173 posts)
58. RIP Governor Mario Cuomo
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jan 2015

He told everyone who Reagan was. The country would be better off if more people had listened.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
59. Not, in any way, to make light of Gov. Cuomo's passing . . .
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jan 2015

. . . but I did have to chuckle a bit at this comment by NY Times reader "Adam L.":

"It's a bizarre little twist of fate that Cuomo the elder should pass away on Cuomo the junior's inauguration day. It summons a strange sense of: "The King is Dead; Long Live the King."

niyad

(113,257 posts)
64. this was the first thing I thought of:
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 02:08 PM
Jan 2015

(from "my fellow americans&quot



Matt Douglas: I hate these funerals. It's just awful when another good Democrat passes on.

Aide: I believe the deceased was a Republican, sir.

Matt Douglas: Oh, well, then it might not be so bad.

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
60. Gov. Cuomo saw reality v Ronnie Raygun's 1% view ...
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jan 2015

In his 1948 Keynote Address at the Democratic National Convention, Gov. Cuomo gave an elegant speech directly taking a swipe at Raygun's plutocratic 1% view of America:

"This nation is more a tale of two cities than it is just a shining city on a hill. There is despair, Mr. President, in the faces you don't see, in the places you don't visit in your shining city."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/01/01/the-best-speech-mario-cuomo-ever-gave/

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
66. Heard This Earlier This AM...
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 04:09 PM
Jan 2015

Weirdest thing about this for me is this... I wasn't aware of his illness or how close he was to death, but just yesterday was having a long political discussion with some friends and family.

We started talking about the crap going on with the NYPD etc., and I brought up Andrew Cuomo and how disappointed I was with him, then went on to talk about his father. How much I admired and loved him and wondered what he was thinking about his son these days.

So, today his father dies and yet ANOTHER smack down to those of us who knew a VERY different America. I fully understand times DO always change, we have to adapt to changes, however the changes I now see and have to live with have become difficult for me. My feelings about what this country has become breaks my heart. While I will always vote, I don't feel any real allegiance or connection to so much of what I see. I've tried over and over to look out on the horizon and feel pride in what may be coming and I've lost my way.

Trying to engage people and telling them how very important it is for "we the people" to stand up for what's right and good simply falls on deaf ears. At almost every turn others tell me I need to stop worrying and enjoy the here and now. Few people will even talk to me about politics or what is happening. I'm pretty much a pariah and know the subject is going to be changed when I dare to speak about what we've lost.

One of our Greats has passed on and my heart is heavy and sad. Farewell to Mario Cuomo, I'm glad I was around when he was active and at his peak. R.I.P. I will always remember how you inspired me.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
69. So much said in that 1984 speech could be said today.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jan 2015

30. Fucking. Years Later.

Damn Reagan.

Damn the reTHUGliCONS.

Damn the koch sucking teabaggers.

Damn the DINO's.

Just.

DAMN!!!



question everything

(47,468 posts)
75. His keynote address will always stand out as the best
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 12:47 AM
Jan 2015

Yes, Obama is a good orator, but Cuomo put passion in his. While Obama... no drama, right?

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