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Omaha Steve

(99,580 posts)
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 08:11 PM Jan 2015

Stocks plunge on fears about implications of oil slump

Source: AP-Excite

By STEVE ROTHWELL

NEW YORK (AP) — After six months of falling oil prices, investors are starting to worry that the prolonged slump is signaling a weaker global economy.

That fear shook financial markets Monday as oil plunged again, dipping below $50 for the first time in more than five years and triggering a big sell-off, not just among energy stocks but across the entire stock market.

Stocks had already endured a weak opening because of concerns that Greece could leave the eurozone, adding to worries about the poor outlook for growth in that region. As oil slid further, the selling accelerated, pushing the Standard & Poor's 500 index to its biggest loss in months.

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QUESTIONS ABOUT RECOVERY

Since the decline began, investors have been working on the assumption that lower oil prices, caused by a glut in supply, will be a boon to the U.S. economy. On Monday, that thesis was discarded as prices plunged further and investors started to fret about the wider implications of the drop.

FULL story at link.



Trader Edward Curran works on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange Monday, Jan. 5, 2015. US stocks opened lower Monday, led by declines in energy stocks as the price of oil plunged again. (AP Photo/Richard Drew)

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150105/financial_markets-d4c0c0fb94.html

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Stocks plunge on fears about implications of oil slump (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2015 OP
Maybe the markets Turbineguy Jan 2015 #1
+1 C Moon Jan 2015 #2
A huge portion of the market is dependent upon high oil prices. ozone_man Jan 2015 #3
That would be screamed out by the mass media if the situation was reversed, no doubt. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #4
I'm thinking that is fredamae Jan 2015 #16
Hmmm..... DeSwiss Jan 2015 #5
That's the problem with booms like the shale oil boom . . . another_liberal Jan 2015 #8
Shale's only competitive when oil's at approx. $70+ a barrel...... DeSwiss Jan 2015 #13
Naturally anything that helps working people at the expense Dawson Leery Jan 2015 #6
Economic warfare is a two-edged sword . . . another_liberal Jan 2015 #7
It seems to me WhiteTara Jan 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author IkeRepublican Jan 2015 #10
I would be worried about all those banks and hedge funds Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #11
That's the thing to be worried about IMO GliderGuider Jan 2015 #12
Depends on how they set it up I imagine. cstanleytech Jan 2015 #14
I'm sorry Kelvin Mace Jan 2015 #17
Exactly what I've been thinking. Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #15

ozone_man

(4,825 posts)
3. A huge portion of the market is dependent upon high oil prices.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jan 2015

For example Caterpillar as explained on NPR. Of course the oil companies like Exxon will suffer, but the overall impact will be wide. Our economy is designed for 2-3% inflation, not deflation, and the huge drop in oil prices is a form of deflation. I think this has more to do with Obama than Bush (remember Bush is an oil man, high prices are good), his sanctions against Russia, his deals with Saudi Arabia, elimination of Libya, the founder of OPEC. Sometimes strategies kind of boomerang and hit you on the head.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. That would be screamed out by the mass media if the situation was reversed, no doubt.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 08:38 PM
Jan 2015

The impact of over 100 billion dollars, annually if prices are at 60 a barrel, being saved by consumers.is a huge net positive more than balancing the loss in oil and energy sector which is less than 2% of GDP.

Not to mention huge savings in the transportation and nap manufacturing industries.

I heard an estimate of a world 1.2 trillion dollar net stimulus to the world economy by this level of energy prices.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
16. I'm thinking that is
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jan 2015

a factor. I believe it Is possible to have a "multi-layered" foundation of cause......

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
13. Shale's only competitive when oil's at approx. $70+ a barrel......
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 01:48 AM
Jan 2015

...and now it's below $50.

- Genie. Out. Of. Bottle.



While the cries of the ''Allies'' go unheeded.....

WhiteTara

(29,703 posts)
9. It seems to me
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 09:12 PM
Jan 2015

in my naivete, that lower oil prices would help the world wide economy, unless of course, the economy is oil. If so, consumers will have a cheap ride into hell.

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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
11. I would be worried about all those banks and hedge funds
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 01:17 AM
Jan 2015

eyeballs deep in oil/gas stocks that are cratering as prices plummet.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
14. Depends on how they set it up I imagine.
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 02:06 AM
Jan 2015

If they set it up as a long term investment they will probably be able to just ride it out as the price will eventually stabilize and then go back up unless some major new discovery happens that can replace oil.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
15. Exactly what I've been thinking.
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 04:21 AM
Jan 2015

Market manipulation aimed at wiping out pension funds and 401Ks.

Constructing the next big crash that will rob the poor to give to the 1%.

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