Police storm Paris grocery where gunman holds 5 hostages
Source: AP
By LORI HINNANT and ELAINE GANLEY
PARIS (AP) Explosions and gunshots were heard as police forces stormed a kosher grocery in Paris where a gunman was holding at least five people hostage.
A woman was seen leaving the building.
The assault came moments after a similar raid on the building where two brothers suspected in the Charlie Hebdo newspaper massacre were cornered.
The gunman at the market had threatened to kill those inside if the brothers were harmed.
In this combination photo provided by the Paris Police Prefecture, Amedy Coulibaly, left, and Hayet Boumddiene, two suspects named by police as accomplices in a kosher market attack on the eastern edges of Paris on Friday, Jan. 9, 2015. A police official says the man who has taken at least five people hostage in a kosher market on the eastern edges of Paris Friday appears linked to the newsroom massacre earlier this week that left 12 people dead. Paris police released a photo of Amedy Coulibaly as a suspect in the killing Thursday of a policewoman, and the official named him as the man holed up in the market. He said the man is armed with an automatic rifle and some hostages have been gravely wounded. He said a second suspect, a woman named Hayet Boumddiene, is the gunman's accomplice. (AP Photo/Prefecture de Police de Paris)
Original breaking news post: On the top of the hour news AP Radio says shots are fired and details to follow ASAP. When the story is detailed feel free to reply here OR post and OP if I haven't updated it fast enough. IF an update gets posted separately I will self delete this post.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/5817417ce93c4030a8632c528338c005/brothers-past-draws-scrutiny-french-manhunt-enters-day-3
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)riversedge
(70,187 posts)getting mixed up. This Vine tweet is from the market not the print shop...
Loud bangs coming from kosher market now. @TImChester on scene: https://vine.co/v/OpjFrbZutXB http://mashable.com/2015/01/09/operation-paris-suspects/?1fdsklfk;dsl
Vine
http://mashable.com/2015/01/09/operation-paris-suspects/?1fdsklfk;dsl
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)riversedge
(70,187 posts)Back to the print shop.
Reports say as many as 3 explosions heard from printing plant where 2 brothers have taken hostage #ParisShooting
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Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)FLASH Charlie Hebdo suspects killed: source
#BREAKING Charlie Hebdo gunmen's hostage freed and safe after police assault
#BREAKING Killed Charlie Hebdo suspects came out firing on security forces: source
riversedge
(70,187 posts)KinMd
(966 posts)riversedge
(70,187 posts)HuffPost UK ?@HuffPostUK 3m3 minutes ago
#ParisAttack - Simultaneous raids on both hostage situations - @AFP Reports 2 suspects dead http://huff.to/1xLCvN5
Charlie Hebdo: Gunfire And Explosions At Siege Buildings Linked To Paris Attack
The Huffington Post UK | By Jessica Elgot
Posted: 09/01/2015 08:45 GMT Updated: 0 minutes ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/09/charlie-hebdo-hijack-car_n_6441418.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
Explosions have been heard at a supermarket where at least five people, including children, were taken captive following a shoot-out at the Hyper Cacher kosher store in Porte de Vincennes in the east of Paris.
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French security forces are locked in two separate hostage situations, with the Charlie Hebdo attackers holed up in an industrial estate with one captive, and five people, including children, being held at a Jewish supermarket in Paris by a gunman linked to the magazine murderers.
The man at the centre of the latest siege to hit the French capital has been named as Amedy Coulibaly, 32, who officials believe is connected to the brothers behind the slaughter of 12 people at the satirical magazine on Wednesday...............
JDDavis
(725 posts)The 2 brothers in the print-shop northeast of Paris
and the one involved in the Kosher supermarket at the edge of Paris.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)from the kosher supermarket:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/09/paris-hostage-supermarket/21489449/
JDDavis
(725 posts)Sorry, but it appeared that there were at least 6 ambulances brought to the store area.
I'm not aware of a final official statement as to who and how many were injured or killed at the store.
It seems as though there were at least 2 killed at the store, probably dead before or as the police stormed it. France 24 is sending out sympathies to the families of those hostages killed at the market.
Edited to correct the count as now given by French sources, yes, four hostages at the market killed.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Coordinated storming of two standoff sites. All terrorists reported killed.
calimary
(81,220 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)They seem to be well prepared.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)Kennah
(14,256 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...them to be taken alive and face the people of France.
calimary
(81,220 posts)He pointed out that this was something the police wanted to prevent. The two original gunmen evidently wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. They seem to have gotten their wish. The worry here, I suspect, is how many of their comrades might be inspired to "avenge" them or some such. "May not be lone wolves." Speculation about how the hostage takers in one location had indicated if the police moved in on their comrades at the other site, they would then kill their hostages in response. So this may well have been a coordinated effort. Speculation here - on the part of the media on scene.
Again, speculation, but seems to me it's reasonable. Seems as though they have to be thinking this way now. Seems inevitable.
Another reporter talking about the mood in Paris - where the thinking originally was that the Charlie Hebdo massacre was an isolated incident, until it started becoming clear that the second hostage-taking event was related to the massacre at the magazine. So the thinking now turns to "what does that mean now? And what further might be sparked by what's happened here?" Reasonable speculation, seems to me.
Evidently these perpetrators were all known to authorities and had been tracked for some time, before Charlie Hebdo. And the question has been voiced - how could the police have missed this - or failed to prevent it.
What a mess.
riversedge
(70,187 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)That Amedy Coulibaly, at the second location, as well as the two suspect brothers from the Charlie Hebdo attack? According to the early reporting, anyway.
George II
(67,782 posts)....even though these two brothers were known to the police (and one spent 18 months in jail), how could they know that something as bad as what happened on Wednesday could have happened?
A difficult fact about France is that almost 10% of their population is Muslim, so there is the potential for many more incidents like this.
I can't speak for the French, but I sure wouldn't want us to degenerate down to arresting people in advance of them doing something. That's what the US did with the majority of those kidnapped and taken to Guantanamo Bay. Very few of those taken there actually were terrorists when sent there, but unfortunately I suspect most of those are now.
calimary
(81,220 posts)Must admit here, my first reaction to the reports about how these were linked and about the terror cell that's suspected of being involved - my gut reaction: Go out and find the rest of 'em and round 'em up.
But what would THAT accomplish? Other than to fire up more purportedly "sleeping" cells for acts of vengeance? Reporters are already talking on camera about concerns for "copycat killings" - "these people were already loosely connected - ten years ago..." "whether this might trigger more incidents..." "the need to ramp up surveillance, security, whatever..."
Reasonable speculation, unfortunately.
riversedge
(70,187 posts)Sky News ?@SkyNews 1m1 minute ago
#ParisAttacks: A recap on everything that's happened in and around the French capital today. http://news.sky.com/story/1404948/paris-terror-attacks-what-we-know-so-far
Paris Terror Attacks: What We Know So Far
Latest developments as explosions and gunfire are heard at a printing work in Dammartin-en-Goele and a grocery in eastern Paris.
16:41, UK, Friday 09 January 2015
Video: Security Forces Close On Suspects
Two hostage situations are unfolding in France following the murders of 12 people at French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.
:: Gunfire and exposions were heard at a print works in Dammartin-en-Goele where two brothers were holed-up after the killings on Wednesday, minutes later at a kosher grocery in east Paris where at least six people were being held hostage.
:: The two brothers holed up in Dammartin-en-Goel, Said, 34, and Cherif Kouachi, 32 are dead after they came out firing when police stormed the building they were in.
The suspects reportedly hijacked a car in Montagny-Sainte-Felicite
The suspects are holed up in a building seven miles from the airport
:: The hostage-taker at the kosher grocery store in eastern Paris is also reportedly dead, according to Reuters.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)The koran didn't stop the bullets.
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)https://twitter.com/AFP/status/553597527325679617
calimary
(81,220 posts)No word on the woman who was allegedly with Amedy Coulibaly.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)The French Commandos were remarkable and very restrained with gunfire during their siege. Also impressed how fast they got the hostages to ambulances.
riversedge
(70,187 posts)Sky NewsVerified account ?@SkyNews
Latest pictures and video as police check for booby traps at supermarket. #ParisAttacks http://news.sky.com/story/1404756/live-police-assaults-on-siege-locations
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http://news.sky.com/story/1404756/live-police-assaults-on-siege-locations
Warpy
(111,245 posts)So far there are conflicting reports about the hostages in Paris, one source saying they exited the store during or after the raid and the other saying all are dead along with the criminals holding them.
840high
(17,196 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)the Charlie standoff.
Four hostages dead in the supermarket - apparently the police coordinated the attacks.
Spiegel says four hostages dead in supermarket.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/charlie-hebdo-alle-infos-im-liveticker-a-1012047.html
But also there were more hostages who escaped alive at some point from the kosher market - maybe ten? There are pics at the above link of what looks like living hostages being removed under police protection.
A tragic day, and I'm sorry to say that I am mentally rejoicing at the deaths of the perps. French police have yet to give a definitive statement.
According to AP, a French police source confirmed that the kosher market perp was threatening to kill his hostages if the police stormed the Charlie perps in the bindery in Dammartin.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/09/paris-hostage-supermarket/21489449/
Warpy
(111,245 posts)I just hope the rest of that cleric's violent assholes are rethinking spending the last minutes of their wasted lives riddled with bullets and surrounded by people who despise them.
Instead of complaining about blasphemy, the Islamic world needs to focus on violent heresy. Since they're the bulk of the victims, perhaps they will.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)But had these guys been taken alive (I don't think the French police had any chance of that), it seems likely that more hostages would have been taken on their behalf later. The supermarket attack was undertaken apparently to assist the Charlie attackers.
Well, it's a hell of a way to advertise your religious sect, that's for sure.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)When the granddaddy of all radical, violent Islamic groups thinks you've gone too far, that's bad.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)CTyankee
(63,903 posts)in the 19th century. Tell me please what can be done to help this situation. The French were pretty bad in the early 19th century. OK that's over. Now what?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)At least not all of them. 4 at the kosher supermarket were killed:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/09/paris-hostage-supermarket/21489449/
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)And the training to shoot them? perhaps they stole the weapons from somewhere.
Although the few videos shown of them killing the officer and running to their black car looked exactly like that grand theft auto game.
calimary
(81,220 posts)VERY porous borders. Intentionally porous. The comparative ease of this kind of movement - of operatives and weapons - from Europe to the Middle East, as opposed to and from America. Where there are many more obstacles, especially via air travel in and out of this country.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)The Norwegian nutcase was legally in possession of the weapon he used - criminals have these weapons, and I'm sure this attack was funded by the Yemenis. Apparently if you have enough money you can get just about anything in the way of weapons.
Wherever you have drugrunning you have weapons being imported as well.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)What I mean is a lot of shipments to Mexico (and to Canada) have 'sealed' livestock compartments. Not to be opened interstate and many times remain sealed in, not unloaded for border crossings inspections of animals or their paperwork. Some livestock are moved across on foot and reloaded into Mexican trailers.
I always suspected those trailers could be used so easy to smuggle things. Even the animals themselves could have been stuffed full of drugs.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Ever since the fall of the Eastern Block. Lots of soviet weapons in circulation.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)several threads on this, but this is the original LBN on the subject
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)"Police have named a suspected accomplice in the murder of the policewoman in Montrouge as Hayat Boumeddiene, 26, describing her as armed and dangerous. She remains at large."
http://www.france24.com/en/20150109-france24-liveblog-charlie-hebdo-shooting-terrorist-suspects-enters-third-day/
Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)The four hostages killed when a gunman took over a kosher grocery store in eastern Paris have been named.
Jewish media sites named the four as Yoav Hattab, Phillipe Braham, Yohan Cohen and Francois-Michel Saada, citing the Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions (CRIF).
Mr Hattab was 21, Mr Cohen was 22, and Mr Braham and Mr Saada were in their forties and sixties respecitvely.
A statement by the CRIF said: "These French citizens were struck down in a cold-blooded manner and mercilessly because they were Jews."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-attacks-four-hostages-killed-in-kosher-grocery-store-named-9970135.html