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Omaha Steve

(99,580 posts)
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:47 AM Jan 2015

Alien Radio Burst from Outside the Milky Way Discovered by Scientists? Setting Trap to Catch Another

Source: HNGN

By Kimberly M. Aquilina

CSIRO's 64-m Parkes radio telescope in eastern Australia has caught "fast radio burst" for the first time, according to a joint press release from The Royal Astronomical Society in the U.K. on behalf of CAASTRO and CAASTRO The Arc Centre of Excellence for All-Sky Astrophysics. This is the first time a sharp radio flash from an unknown source has been caught live.

The first radio burst was discovered in 2007 by astronomers working on the Parkes data archive. The first burst lasted only milliseconds. Since then, there have been six more flashes that scientists believe are coming from outside our galaxy.

"These bursts were generally discovered weeks or months or even more than a decade after they happened! We're the first to catch one in real time," said Emily Petroff, a Ph.D. candidate co-supervised by CSIRO and by Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne, Australia. Swinburne is a member institution of the ARC Centre of Excellence for All-Sky Astrophysics (CAASTRO).

The burst was only radio - no optical, infrared, ultraviolet or X-ray follow up. "That in itself rules out some possible candidates, such as long gamma-ray bursts and nearby supernovae," said team member Mansi Kasliwal from the Carnegie Institution in Pasadena, Calif.

FULL story at link.



Read more: http://www.hngn.com/articles/61574/20150119/alien-radio-burst-outside-milky-way-discovered-scientists-setting-trap.htm

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Alien Radio Burst from Outside the Milky Way Discovered by Scientists? Setting Trap to Catch Another (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2015 OP
If there is intellegent life in the cosmos olddots Jan 2015 #1
that might be a clue that they arent all THAT smart. mopinko Jan 2015 #5
Be careful what you wish for. sulphurdunn Jan 2015 #10
Too True dballance Jan 2015 #19
Great episode. Liberty Belle Jan 2015 #39
Right bluestateguy Jan 2015 #20
Fine documentaries. Orrex Jan 2015 #22
It's sort of news FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #21
how do YOU know it is from a natural.cause? Liberal_in_LA Jan 2015 #33
Let's just say it's 99.99999% chance it's a natural source FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #35
Here's the transcription of the radio message: FailureToCommunicate Jan 2015 #2
best joke of the 20th century Thx Steve! librechik Jan 2015 #8
That's so, HILARIOUS! Johnny Rash Jan 2015 #9
I wish Art Bell was still on the air. Kingofalldems Jan 2015 #3
Interesting. drm604 Jan 2015 #4
It's a star flare Sunlei Jan 2015 #6
So star flares are trying to communicate with us? Cool! Kablooie Jan 2015 #16
They were replying to Roger McGuinn's plea: KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #7
Or maybe it was a long-lost message from Major Tom Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #40
The origin is most likely a natural phenomena edhopper Jan 2015 #11
If it's a signal from intelligent life, they're probably gone by now. JohnnyRingo Jan 2015 #12
Decreasing frequence and density of large stars as the universe ages leads to less gamma ray bursts. Exultant Democracy Jan 2015 #27
Interesting argument..... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2015 #32
A better source for this news... Peace Patriot Jan 2015 #13
Oops! Here's the orginal original... Peace Patriot Jan 2015 #15
Thanks for link! burrowowl Jan 2015 #37
I'm thinking it's Goldman Sachs Demeter Jan 2015 #14
No, that would be us. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #18
Imagine the response from FOX "News" when they discover advanced civilizations don't use money. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #17
says CAASTRO fox wil not mention it dembotoz Jan 2015 #23
Yeah. ApplePay makes much more sense. Flatulo Jan 2015 #24
Imagine their response if they don't have their papers. Rozlee Jan 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jan 2015 #26
Wouldn't it be something if the first alien transmissions we DO receive... JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2015 #28
Maybe not the first signal, but one of them for sure. See rule 34. MillennialDem Jan 2015 #29
I'm betting it was WLW Botany Jan 2015 #30
"We've set the trap," said Petroff... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2015 #31
Let's hope they aren't warnings about an intergalactic expressway or something. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2015 #34
The proof that there is intelligent life out there Turbineguy Jan 2015 #36
I wonder why man has an inferiority complex? CANDO Jan 2015 #38
Look around at the world today ... Nihil Jan 2015 #44
That's also assuming that most life on planets isn't microbial. chrisa Jan 2015 #45
We assume that life capable of CONTACTING US is probably more advanced. Xithras Jan 2015 #47
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2015 #41
I've always thought the whole SETI thing was a really BAD idea ... undiegrinder Jan 2015 #42
Send Help! PeoViejo Jan 2015 #43
Rura Penthe...we is condemning food, things and supplies. Calista241 Jan 2015 #46
 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
1. If there is intellegent life in the cosmos
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jan 2015

Hopefully it will spread to Earth eventually .

THIS SHOULD BE HUGE NEWS ,

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
19. Too True
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jan 2015

Here on Earth every time a society with more advanced technology (notice I didn't say more advanced culture) met a society that it could overpower and subjugate due to that technology it has. We might become the next slave-trade victims of aliens with technology and weapons that far exceed ours.

Don't for get the great Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man."

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
39. Great episode.
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 04:03 AM
Jan 2015

after translating the title people thought the aliens were here to be our servants.

But then they translated the rest--and learned it was a cookbook!

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
21. It's sort of news
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:30 PM
Jan 2015

It's from a natural cause. It's a great story for media ratings and it'll be interesting to learn the cause but it's not intelligent life.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
35. Let's just say it's 99.99999% chance it's a natural source
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jan 2015

There probably isn't enough room to put all the 9's in there for a real probability.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
4. Interesting.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jan 2015

The original press releases from the RAS and CAASTRO say nothing about it being alien, that's just spin on the part of the HNGN author.

It will likely turn out to be some known or currently unknown natural phenomenon, especially considering it's strength, but it's still intriguing.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. It's a star flare
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jan 2015
Kasliwal said that low-energy gamma-ray bursts, imploding neutron stars and giant flares from distant magnetars ("most magnetic stars in the universe&quot can't be ruled out

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
40. Or maybe it was a long-lost message from Major Tom
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 04:21 AM
Jan 2015


Or maybe it was the Urban Spaceman telling us he doesn't exist

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
12. If it's a signal from intelligent life, they're probably gone by now.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jan 2015

One of the most compelling arguments I've heard against alien visitors here on Earth is that once a civilization reaches the point where it can attempt space travel it also possesses the technology to destroy itself.

At that crucial point in evolution, it's just a matter of time before they destroy their planet or each other, rendering interstellar exploration moot. Still, it's fun to entertain the notion that at least one civilization elsewhere shared our history.

Thanx for sharing. I like this stuff. I'll have to go over to Bad Astronomy and see what Phil Plait has to say.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
27. Decreasing frequence and density of large stars as the universe ages leads to less gamma ray bursts.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jan 2015

If we take life on earth as a timeline 3-4 billion years, there might be good reason to believe that there was not a significant portion of the universe that was not saturated with gamma radiation at a far higher frequency then that for the first ten billion years. It might be that 3-4 billion years is on the upper end of the curve as far as life getting a chance to develop without being blasted back into its constitute molecules and having to start over again.

Of course there are a ton of possible solution to the Fermi paradox. I am a fan of the "anyone smart enough to be noticed, is smart enough to make sure they aren't noticed, because how do you know your neighbors won't find your babies delicious after all" theory. For the vast majority of human history we had to be careful that the guy who live on the other side of the river didn't decide to eat us one day. Evolution do not as a rule reward good sportsmanship, just think about how scary other humans are, keeping our heads down on a galactic scale might not be the worst plan.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
32. Interesting argument.....
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jan 2015

and of course one of the first things we did about moon landings was to figure out a way to weaponize the advantage.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
13. A better source for this news...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jan 2015

The original: http://www.caastro.org/news/2014-frb

The web site you cited--hngn.com--is full of 'celebrity' junk 'news' and intrusive ads. I hate sites like that. The actual source of this news is much more interesting: http://www.caastro.org.

Thanks for posting it, though! I would otherwise not have known about this news story--probably never would have run across it. And now I've discovered the telescope's own web site!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
15. Oops! Here's the orginal original...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.caastro.org/news/2015-livefrb

The original I cited is background news--the context for this story. The original (herein) is entitled: "Cosmic radio burst caught red-handed." Nothing about aliens. That stupidity is an artifact of a stupid 'news' site (hngn.com) which added "aliens" to the title.
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
14. I'm thinking it's Goldman Sachs
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jan 2015

the Interplanetary branch. (otherwise commonly known as the Ferengi)

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
25. Imagine their response if they don't have their papers.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jan 2015

And if they don't have sex in the preferred missionary position. Like throwing around their spores everywhere while being interviewed.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
28. Wouldn't it be something if the first alien transmissions we DO receive...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jan 2015

.... are alien porn?

Things that make you go Hmmmmmmm.

Turbineguy

(37,317 posts)
36. The proof that there is intelligent life out there
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 09:54 PM
Jan 2015

is that they have not contacted us.

But then again, maybe they have their own form of the Tea Party.

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
38. I wonder why man has an inferiority complex?
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 02:40 AM
Jan 2015

We always assume life forms from other planets/galaxies are more intelligent or advanced than us. We never consider that maybe we are vastly more intelligent/advanced than what may be out there.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
44. Look around at the world today ...
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 10:03 AM
Jan 2015

... and you will find vegetables that are more intelligent than most "celebrities" (or "leaders" for that matter).

Given the tendency to hero-worship that grips huge segments of the non-starving global population,
together with the nature of said chosen "heroes" (sports, politics, military, religious or merely "popular&quot ,
then it's not surprising that the more intelligent people around do *not* view our race as "advanced"
(or even "special&quot in any way.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
45. That's also assuming that most life on planets isn't microbial.
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jan 2015

Of those planets that have more than microbes, many probably have animal life that can't manipulate the environment.

There are so many planets out there where life is possible, though, that there's bound to be some other form of intelligent life. The universe is so huge that they probably haven't visited us yet, or maybe have already and weren't impressed.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
47. We assume that life capable of CONTACTING US is probably more advanced.
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 03:50 PM
Jan 2015

It's likely that 99.99999999% of all the life in the universe is less advanced than us. It's also a given that anyone who contacts us will probably hail from that 0.00000001% Why? Because as recently as 100 years ago, we were incapable of communicating across interstellar distances. If another species is even 100 years behind us technologically, we'll never hear from them. In a 13.8 billion year old universe, a paltry 100 years may as well be a microsecond.

Mathematically, the probabilities are clear. Any species we are capable of communicating with through technological means will be more advanced than we are, and probably substantially so.

If we develop the technology to wander out into the universe and start visiting other worlds, I have little doubt that we'll find less intelligent and less evolved life. But we're not going to find them until we visit them on their home turf.

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