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Stephen Retired

(190 posts)
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 02:15 AM Jan 2015

Bill Nye Says 'Give A F**k' About Climate Change Instead Of Deflategate

Source: The Huffington Post

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"While we're all obsessed with Deflategate, let's keep in mind that there's something about which you should give a fuck," Nye said. “Yes, like Tom Brady, the world is getting hotter and hotter, and you know why? Because we humans are pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.”

Nye then began listing things that contribute to climate change -- including long-winded Deflategate press conferences -- and followed that up with a rallying cry.

“You should vote for congressmen and senators that appreciate the threat of climate change and the rate at which the world is getting warmer, so that we can preserve the earth for humankind for generations to come," Nye said.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/27/bill-nye-deflategate-climate-change_n_6559778.html



I deliberately did not include the first few paragraphs, which dealt with the "yea" or "nay" part of football deflation. Hey, I may be a Pats fan, but I'd also like my son and daughter, as well as their kids, to actually LIVE!
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Bill Nye Says 'Give A F**k' About Climate Change Instead Of Deflategate (Original Post) Stephen Retired Jan 2015 OP
As if the MSM would give a shit about it sakabatou Jan 2015 #1
We, the people, DO give a fuck, the corporate media is obviously punching us in the face about how they do not. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #18
A voice of sanity in the wilderness. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #2
Is it okay to give a fuck about both? jmowreader Jan 2015 #3
Sure, bvf Jan 2015 #6
LOL. eom littlemissmartypants Jan 2015 #9
Well ok...but you have a limited # of fucks to give demwing Jan 2015 #10
I have a case of fucks on my desk and another in the broom closet jmowreader Jan 2015 #11
Sorry! demwing Jan 2015 #13
Same with me. iandhr Jan 2015 #17
Give a fuck about climate change and just give deflategate... yurbud Jan 2015 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #4
K Cha Jan 2015 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #7
Of course he did, I love you Bill and I always will... littlemissmartypants Jan 2015 #8
Bill Nye the Science Guy Episode on "Climate" demwing Jan 2015 #12
Mr Nye suffers from what I call "Joe Bauers*" Syndrome ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #14
This may get me in trouble, but GliderGuider Jan 2015 #15
So...just give up? Not angry, just puzzled. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #19
No, don't give up. GliderGuider Jan 2015 #34
The science is not aboard your conclusion there is only minuscule things than can be done. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #35
Yeah, I know. I cast a broader net than most climate scientists. GliderGuider Jan 2015 #36
I agree with you Plucketeer Jan 2015 #24
So if the right answer is to just give up then why are you posting here? This is not Congress. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #30
Uhh... Plucketeer Jan 2015 #31
Even our liberal news shows are wasting our time on football instead of real news. jwirr Jan 2015 #16
Well, the real news would reveal the GOP imploding and denying science and common sense. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #20
Enough to make me stop watching TV again. jwirr Jan 2015 #21
What is there to watch..snowstorms and footballs, circuses and fear, broadcast by a media army of corrupted shills? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #22
I like Ed Schultz probably because he is from that area I live in. Then I watch C. Hayes, Rachel and jwirr Jan 2015 #25
If all their pay checks are coming from Wall Street media corporations, how can any of them be liberals? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #26
I watched some of Ed last night. Plucketeer Jan 2015 #27
Exactly...Ed has to cover bullshit because the bullshit providers sign his weekly check. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #29
They say Nero fiddled as Rome burned. We play with our balls while the world burns. raouldukelives Jan 2015 #23
The future humans will wonder why the media was allowed to abandon it's job, instead they give us Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #28
This is Indianaer. We care about sports. We don't care about science. Myrina Jan 2015 #33
Gee, Bill couldn't possibly have an agenda here, could he? KamaAina Jan 2015 #37

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
18. We, the people, DO give a fuck, the corporate media is obviously punching us in the face about how they do not.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:45 AM
Jan 2015

No problem, go ahead, give a big flying fuck about a football and a snowstorm and a scary virus and
ISIS at the border, but quit fucking obsessing about it and start obsessing on what is a tad more important.

Apparently it is too fucking much to ask the media to cool it with distractions and fear and circuses, but the media always asks the same question and wants to know - "are you not entertained"? Are you not soothed by not having to think about real things that make you afraid? Just tune in some more to the MSM for fears that are not real or matter much, just so you can ignore the fears that are real and matter a lot.

Are you not grateful? Are you not entertained?

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
2. A voice of sanity in the wilderness.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 02:39 AM
Jan 2015

Thank you Bill Nye. I appreciate you taking the opportunity to try to bring the US to its senses while the spotlight is on you over this deflategate crap. Any time is a good time to try to save the world.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
6. Sure,
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 03:51 AM
Jan 2015

as long as one recognizes the difference between a threat to global life and one posed to the livelihoods of gamblers and bookies.


jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
11. I have a case of fucks on my desk and another in the broom closet
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:34 AM
Jan 2015

Plus I have a big stack of purchase order forms, in case I need to requisition more fucks.

The problem is, I have too damn many fucks. Someone PLEASE take some of these fucks off my hands!

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
13. Sorry!
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:57 AM
Jan 2015

But I've got my own fucks to worry about. Less than I had a few years ago, but these new fangled fucks seem to weigh more...

Response to Stephen Retired (Original post)

Response to Stephen Retired (Original post)

 

ChosenUnWisely

(588 posts)
14. Mr Nye suffers from what I call "Joe Bauers*" Syndrome
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:28 AM
Jan 2015

It affects all smart people and there is no known cure.

Sorry to break it to you Bill people are going to get a whole bunch stupider before it is reversed.

*See: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
15. This may get me in trouble, but
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:30 AM
Jan 2015

Last edited Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:23 AM - Edit history (1)

To start out on a relatively safe note, I don't give a fuck about organized sports - never have, never will.

But on a more contentious note, I also no longer give a fuck about trying to fix climate change.

I gave many, many fucks about that up until COP15 blew its brains out in Copenhagen at the end of 2009. At that point I realized that we (the global, collective-humanity "we" ) weren't going to fix it, and had no intention of even trying.

I started looking for the reasons why. Over the last 5 years I've discovered that we (the species) can't fix it, because that would involve violating the principles of life (how organisms function with regard to energy), our evolved neuropsychology that arose from our nature as living beings, the way individual behaviours and collective cultures are shaped by their environments, and may possibly even run counter to the operation of non-equilibrium thermodynamics in complex adaptive systems.

So I've given up giving a fuck about fixing it. Instead I've accepted that we will simply keep on doing what humans do, trying to give our kids a better life at the expense of the rest of the biosphere, until the situation "resolves itself" naturally - like it does with all other non-human species.

It ain't the oligarchs that are the problem - it's human beings in general. That means you and me.

Most people on an activist board like this will disagree, and quite a few will be outraged by my attitude. That's fine, I understand why that is. It's a big world, with room enough for all sorts of opinions.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
34. No, don't give up.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jan 2015

There are a lot of reasons to do things like oppose XL for instance, other than expecting that stopping it it will reverse, stop or even slow down climate change. However it might be good to keep in mind that most of the beneficial effects of such actions will be local, and will have no measurable effect on the global problem of CO2.

I don't advise people to "give up". I suggest that we become deadly realistic about what climate change is, how it's going to affect the world, and the minuscule chances human beings have of mitigating it to any significant degree. We caused it, but we can't fix it.

What I advise is that we each do whatever we are moved to do in this area, but to abandon any expectation that it's going to fix the climate problem. Do it for other reasons instead.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
36. Yeah, I know. I cast a broader net than most climate scientists.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 02:08 PM
Jan 2015

Feel perfectly free not to believe me. Whether you do or don't, it won't make any difference either way.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
24. I agree with you
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jan 2015

I live in central California - out amongst the walnut and orange groves. In spite of this bowl of a valley having THE worst air in the nation, people here regularly heat their homes with wood. And to be more to the point - I'm not talking about folks using wood as their primary heat source because that's all they can afford - I'm talking folks who can afford to use propane or electricity.
But there's an ingrained tradition here. Families have had relatively cheap wood at hand (from the aforementioned tree crops) since before anyone can remember. And like the useless excitement (excrement) over a stupid sports event, who would turn their back on "tradition" to do something as inconsequential as contributing to air quality???
I live in a little housing development that dates to 1970. There's 8 homes that make up this neighborhood. Our home and one other of those 8, don't use wood for heat. Hey - this is a blood red part of this great blue state. NO ONE is gonna tell these intellects to buck tradition - even if it DOES mean that they and their future generations might suffer on local or global scale!
Hell - one neighbor is continually suffering from the air quality here, but while he acknowledges the air's at fault - his home heating with lumber never seems to occur as a contributing factor!...... "Hey! I got a great deal on a cord of seasoned walnut! I kin jus' leave those expensive heat pumps off altogether!"
Also.... everyone here drives giant dually pickup trucks - even those that don't "farm". Blasting around in them with NOTHING ever in the bed. And the times there is something to be "hauled", the trunk of a car would suffice. Of course, these folks are ecstatic with the recent plunge in fuel prices. "YIPPEEEEEE.......... we can blast about in our monster-mobiles once again. We can even afford to drive over to the coast to get a breath of fresh air once more!"
But what ya gonna do? These folks aren't gonna be hanging out here at DU. These are minds that hold Reid and Pelosi accountable for this valley's water crisis - never mind that the skies have dried up for 4 years running. We're not going to change minds like this as to how the world is at a point of crisis thanks to the determined blindness that's fueled by their greed. No sir! Take that tree-hugger BS somewheres else!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
30. So if the right answer is to just give up then why are you posting here? This is not Congress.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jan 2015

"I agree with you."

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
31. Uhh...
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jan 2015

Did you read my post or did you inadvertently reply to it when your comment was actually aimed at a different post???

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
20. Well, the real news would reveal the GOP imploding and denying science and common sense.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jan 2015

Meanwhile, the real news would reveal the popularity of all of Obama's domestic and foreign policy positions, his own personal popularity and the rejection of all the GOP's....so...


How many deflated footballs and snowstorms will it take to cover for the GOP for another two years, it has only been one month so far!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
22. What is there to watch..snowstorms and footballs, circuses and fear, broadcast by a media army of corrupted shills?
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jan 2015

The media is not the solution, they do not want debate, they want control, they are part of the problem.

DU and web media has more news and debate in a day than you will witness in traditional media in a month.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
25. I like Ed Schultz probably because he is from that area I live in. Then I watch C. Hayes, Rachel and
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jan 2015

Lawrence O'Donnell. Other than that I watch nothing. But even there this last week all you got was snow and football. I do not watch them to see what the news is because you are right about getting news on DU. I watch them to see what they are saying. I am glad that we liberals have any say on TV at all. Not to many years ago and there was hardly anyone.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
26. If all their pay checks are coming from Wall Street media corporations, how can any of them be liberals?
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jan 2015
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
27. I watched some of Ed last night.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jan 2015

We were interested in what he presented about the XL pipeline standoff. Then came the time-wasting BS about Deflategate. Bye Ed.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
29. Exactly...Ed has to cover bullshit because the bullshit providers sign his weekly check.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jan 2015

Same as them all.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
23. They say Nero fiddled as Rome burned. We play with our balls while the world burns.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jan 2015

We have all brightest minds on the planet telling us we are literally killing the ability of our planet to support the very conditions under which we evolved.

Our greatest concern is still undertaking each new day with the time honored question "Who can best play with the inflatable ball?". To find out we will burn staggering amounts of fossil fuels in transport, coverage and viewing of this world altering event.

I mean, sure. Future people will wonder at how we could stand around and watch it happen. But when they see some of the single season records our greatest citizens accomplished in throwing the ball, hitting the ball, kicking the ball and putting the ball in circles, they will only wonder how we found time pull our eyes from the amazing feats to wipe ourselves, much less address the vast amount such events had contributed to the suffering they experience.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
28. The future humans will wonder why the media was allowed to abandon it's job, instead they give us
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jan 2015

games and superstition and endless hours of trying to convince folks that being fearful is a good thing.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
37. Gee, Bill couldn't possibly have an agenda here, could he?
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jan 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye#Career

Nye began his career in Seattle at Boeing, where (among other things) he starred in training films and developed a hydraulic pressure resonance suppressor for the 747. Later, he worked as a consultant in the aeronautics industry. In 1999 he told the St. Petersburg Times that he applied to be a NASA astronaut every few years, but was always rejected.

The Science Guy
Main article: Bill Nye the Science Guy

Nye began his professional entertainment career as a writer/actor on a local sketch comedy television show in Seattle, Washington, called Almost Live!. The host of the show, Ross Shafer, suggested he do some scientific demonstrations in a six-minute segment, and take on the nickname "The Science Guy". His other main recurring role on Almost Live! was as Speedwalker, a speedwalking Seattle superhero.


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