One million expected to flee from Libya to Europe
3/7/2015
Up to one million migrants could set off for Europe from Libya this year, the executive director of the EU's Frontex border agency told ANSA on Friday. Most of the migrants will seek to enter Europe through Italy.
"We have to be ready to address a more difficult situation than last year," said Fabrice Leggeri. "Our sources tell us that there are anywhere between 500,000 to a million people ready to leave Libya."
Frontex coordinates the EU's Triton maritime patrol operation in the southern Mediterranean, which replaced Italy's better-funded Mare Nostrum migrant-search-and-rescue programme last year. According to Leggeri, Frontex "cannot cope" on its own with a migrant emergency in the Mediterranean. He asked for "more resources" from the EU as well as a "contribution" from more member states.
Over 900 migrants were rescued near Sicily this week but 50 others were feared drowned after a boat capsized off the coast. The International Organisation for Migration warned on Friday that the "human smuggling season" was picking up, with nearly 9,000 arrivals by sea this year so far, despite poor weather conditions.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/africa/17382-one-million-expected-to-flee-from-libya-to-europe
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Thanks, Hillary. Best Secretary of State, ever.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)were, just so we have a look back, the rest speaks for itself as to where Libya is now.
9/2011
snip* NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, there are actually two major issues with regard to Libya. The first one was, was it appropriate to initiate and then to implement the U.N. resolution, U.N. 1973, which called for a no-fly zone and protection of civilians? Thats first question. Second question, was it appropriate for thebasically the imperial triumvirate, the traditional imperial statesU.S., Britain and Francewas it appropriate for them instantly to reject the resolution that they had gotten through the Security Council and to simply become pretty much the air force for one of the sides in the civil war, the rebel side? Those are two quite separate issues.
My own feeling was that you could have made a case for a no-fly zone and protection of civilians, but I think its much harder to make a case for direct participation in a civil war and undercutting of possible options that were supported by almost the entire world. The African countrythe African Union, the so-called BRICS countriesBrazil, Russia, India, China, South Africayou know, the major developing countries, non-aligned countries, almost entirely were pressing for some kind of negotiated settlement, not just taking partparticipating on the rebel side in the war. Well, was that the right thing to do or not? A lot of questions to ask. If, according to the Transitional National Council, the rebel quasi-government, about 30,000 people have been killed, thats not slight.
Right now theres a major attack going on onagainst the bases of the largest tribe in Libya. NATOs bombingyou know, the triumvirate is bombing, the rebels are attacking. Who knows whats going to happen there? Theyre alreadyits a very complex situation. Very few people understand it. Its a tribal society. The western tribes, the ones that pretty much conquered Tripoli, although the people in Tripoli say they did it themselves, those tribes are one group. Cyrenaica, the eastern coastal regions, have beenthats where the Transitional National Council is centeredhave been pretty different from tribal Libya for a long time, way back to the colonial period. They were very anti-Gaddafi. There are other tribes. The loyalty and the commitments of the other tribal groups is pretty much unknown. It could turn into aI mean, one hopes for the best, but the seeds are there for pretty ugly conflicts and confrontations.
I should say, I was kind of struck by the fact that the energy corporations didnt skip a beat. I mean, the day that troops werethat rebel forces werewestern tribes were beginning to approaching Tripoli, that day, the New York Times business section, the lead article had a headline like, you know, "Oil Companies Scramble for Contracts" or something like that. And it just hasnt been hidden that theyre very eager to assure that they get their hands on the loot. Whats important in Libya is, first of all, it has a good deal of oil. A lot of the country is unexplored; there may be a lot more. And its very high-quality oil, so very valuable. There are some reasons to anticipate that it might turn out not too badly, but itsI think it would be a very rash person who would try to make a prediction now.
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2011/9/13/noam_chomsky
leveymg
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forces in regime change in Libya and Syria.
The pattern of regional destabilization followed a uniform template across each country that erupted into simultaneous armed revolt in February and March 2011. The Arab Spring uprisings in Tunisia, Libya and Syria were all marked by a stage process: first, the "twitter factor", propaganda emanating from opposition exile groups abroad (most of it in France, UK and Qatar) and nearly simultaneous calls for "days of rage"; second stage, escalating violent street demonstrations and "third-force" sniping that killed both police and protesters. Final stage: splits and battles among factions of the security services. Sniping turned mass demonstrations into angry mobs that set fire to official buildings and looted government arsenals, triggering street battles that became the focus of global media coverage dominated by images of civilian casualties broadcast by Qatari state owned media. A recent Carnegie Endowment report acknowledges:
While Qatar and France are now known to have been actively engaged from the earliest days of the regional uprising, the US role remained largely in the background. The Ghadaffi government was actively engaged in dismantling its nuclear and chemical weapons stocks, and had largely repaired diplomatic relations with the United States after decades of tensions and several near-brushes with war. https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/LibyaChronology As 2011 dawned, 28 foreign oil companies were operating in Libya, including Exxon-Mobil, Chevron and Conoco, with production levels steadily rising. BP reached a joint offshore production agreement to begin drilling off the Libyan coast.
At the start of that same year, Kerry was actively wooing Syrian President Assad.
But that period of outward calm was to be shattered when the Petraeus-Clinton faction took control over MENA policy, and regime change was brought simultaneously to Syria, along with Libya and Tunisia. The project was most aggressively led by covert operators on the ground from France and Qatar, to a lesser extent involving the U.S., U.K., Saudi Arabia, UAE and Turkey in funding, coordination, propaganda and logistics and support. Ongoing programs run by CIA and State Dept. were ballooned, and there were a lot of meetings, but mostly Washington watched events unfold as third-force special forces units (mostly Qatari) led armed opposition in Libya and Syria. In March 2011, President Obama signed a classified "finding" coordinating efforts with Qatar and several other countries to overthrow Qaddafi. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/30/us-libya-usa-order-idUSTRE72T6H220110330 A similar directive was signed ordering covert operations in Syria.
In April, 2011, Chris Stevens arrived in Eastern Libya where he took a lead role in organizing opposition militia. At the time of Stevens death on September 12, 2012, Ghadaffi had been killed the previous October after retreating to his tribal homeland in Sirte, and the Libyan army had dissolved. Opposition militia were in charge of the rest of the country and arms stocks. By that stage, there was an active pipeline set up for Islamic fighters and looted Libyan heavy arms -- along with shoulder-fired antiaircraft missiles (MANPADs) -- flowing into Syria by way of Turkey. That movement of MANPADs was first confirmed in a Times of London article published two days after the attack on the US compound in Benghazi. See, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/28/1137620/-Times-of-London-Shipload-of-Looted-Missiles-From-Libya-Arrives-in-Turkey#
The death of Stevens and the spread across the region of heavy arms and Jihadist Libyan fighters armed and trained by Qataris using Saudi and Gulf money forced President Obama to reconsider the policy. CIA Director Petraeus, who was confirmed in September 2011 to succeed Leon Panetta, resisted winding down the operation. In a showdown White House meeting the following October, Petraeus was supported by Secretary of State Clinton and Defense Secretary Panetta. Obama's decision to wind down what has been referred to as "Operation Zero Footprint" came after discussions with national security advisor Tom Donilon. The rift within the Administration was first made public during Senate hearings the following February. See, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/us/politics/panetta-speaks-to-senate-panel-on-benghazi-attack.html?_r=0 Petraeus' ongoing affair with his biographer was exposed, and Secretary Clinton's resignation graciously accepted after the Inauguration. The rest, as they say, is history.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)was in the first place. Obama has faced many obstacles from ill advisers regarding
Iran as well,the unsubstantiated over blown over used break out theory, is one
example....yet thankfully, he continues to move in the correct direction imo, despite
all the hawks interference on that score.
leveymg
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applied restraint, at least from Oct. 2012 on. The Libya and Syria interventions were most largely a Hillary/Petraeus production.
Here are some more details I went BACK and picked up from the thread following an old post of mine over at DKOS: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/13/1169662/-Why-Susan-Rice-s-Withdrawal-Offers-Some-Reason-for-Hope#
That's the date when Chris Stevens arrived in Benghazi to coordinate the militias in Benghazi.
Prior to that, the US, UK and France were funding, training, and advising the very same leading exile groups that called for the uprisings beginning with the Feb 2 "Day of Rage" in Syria and similiar, simultaneous calls to arms in Libya that eminated from opposition internet sites in London and Paris.
Yes, we were involved in arranging the Arab Spring for many years before it 'happened' in early 2011.
That much is simply self-evident. One has to look back at the timelines and see the striking pattern of parallel events that unfolded in the two countries leading up to the civil wars in March.
It's a self-evident fiction that Syria regime change hasn't been US policy for a long time. The only question is what role the US took directly in the initial stages preceding the armed uprising. The timeline tells us that occurred in Daraa. The peaceful protests lasted for less than two months before the battle for Daraa started on 04/08/11 with killings on both sides.
Same chain of events happened, virtually simultaneously in Benghazi. The pattern in both countries, focused on these two cities, was broadly as follows:
Month One: The Twitter Factor - exile groups promote Days of Rage. Largely ignored.
Month Two: Demonstrations grow, calls for overthrow of regime. A few serious casualties.
Five-Six weeks: Militants shoot at police and demonstrators during riots, Police/Army overrreact, massacres.
Seventh week, and thereafter: Mob Anger, Storming of Gov't buildings, arsenals looted, troops attacked, foreign fighters and al Qaeda carry out bombings, civil war.
Coverage of events by liberal western media fixates on Month Two phase of the opposition, armed mobs and killings of police not covered; coverage of the regime focuses almost exclusively military response; PR for Islamic Revolution and "humanitarian intervention."
by leveymg on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 08:13:41 PM PST
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http://en.wikipedia.org/...
A "Day of Rage" in Libya and by Libyans in exile was planned for 17 February.[107][122][123] The National Conference for the Libyan Opposition asked that all groups opposed to the Gaddafi government protest on 17 February in memory of demonstrations in Benghazi five years earlier.[107] The plans to protest were inspired by the Tunisian and Egyptian revolution.[107] Protests took place in Benghazi, Ajdabiya, Derna, Zintan, and Bayda. Libyan security forces fired live ammunition into the armed protests. Protesters torched a number of government buildings, including a police station.[124][125] In Tripoli, television and public radio stations had been sacked, and protesters set fire to security buildings, Revolutionary Committee offices, the interior ministry building, and the People's Hall.[126][127] According to a report from the International Crisis Group, "much Western media coverage has from the outset presented a very one-sided view of the logic of events, portraying the protest movement as entirely peaceful and repeatedly suggesting that the government's security forces were unaccountably massacring unarmed demonstrators who presented no security challenge".[126]
On 18 February, police and army personnel later withdrew from Benghazi after being overwhelmed by protesters. Some army personnel also joined the protesters; they then seized the local radio station. In Bayda, unconfirmed reports indicated that the local police force and riot-control units had joined the protesters.[128] On 19 February, witnesses in Libya reported helicopters firing into crowds of anti-government protesters.[129] The army withdrew from the city of Bayda.
by leveymg on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 07:40:39 AM PST
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Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)*The Libya and Syria interventions were most largely a Hillary/Petraeus production.
Thank you for the links, when you look back, which is important to do, especially when we
see headlines like the ones in the OP I posted today...I say this with a heavy sigh.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)from 2012. Thanks for the other snips, also.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/13/1169662/-Why-Susan-Rice-s-Withdrawal-Offers-Some-Reason-for-Hope#
So much information goes down the "memory hole" as new disasters replace ongoing ones in the MSMedia that refresh reading is necessary especially given what has occurred with our Foreign Policy in MENA...which is turning out to be a disaster..imho. Will any presidential candidate address our worn out mantra that we are bringing "Freedom & Democracy to the World?" Or will the campaign focus on "Fighting the "Terrorists Taking Over the World" with increasing funds needed from the taxpayers to support a better equipped and more efficient Military Force for the battles that the "Generals" say will be unending.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)who could hold their countries together, enforce order, fight extremism and provide a reasonable standard of living for their people.
If only...
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Is it too late, way past the 1915 rationale of modernizing? Would joining the Wahhabi IS allow resettlement? Boko Haram was accepted. Iraq is fighting against this movement. There are many more parts to the movement.
msongs
(67,381 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)the Libyan populous through the taxpayers of Europe upon assimilation.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)However, bear in mind that Libyans apparently had the highest standard of living in Africa, and free education etc. under Gadaffi.
And note (as per other posts in the thread above) that their "problems" were mostly brought in from outside the country.