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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:57 PM Mar 2015

Putin (& Pro-Putin Crowd) Warned of Fascism in Ukraine, But a Look Suggests Putin’s to Blame

Now that the DU pro-Putin crowd are recommending anti-Semitic websites once again, it's time to reread this:

Putin Warned of Fascism in Ukraine, But a Look Across Europe Suggests He’s to Blame

A visit to Kiev’s Jewish institutions reveals Jews there are less concerned about their neighbors at home than the bully next door

According to Vladimir Putin, the revolution that dislodged former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukoyvch this winter was not a popular movement for democracy, European integration, and honest government. It was, rather, he told the world, a “coup” “executed” by “Nationalists, neo-Nazis, Russophobes, and anti-Semites” who “wanted to seize power and would stop short of nothing.” Protecting ethnic Russians from a fascist government in Kiev was the pretext for Russia’s invasion and subsequent annexation of Crimea, and it remains the justification for continued meddling in Ukraine’s affairs. In a phone conversation with President Barack Obama late last month, Putin spoke of a “rampage of extremists” across Ukraine, the specter of which Russia cites in dictating terms to Ukraine’s pro-Western government.

The threat of “fascism” has an important historical resonance in Russia, hearkening back to the Soviet Union’s struggle against the Nazis. Soviet leaders continued to use the term long after World War II, deploying it liberally against any and all opponents both foreign and domestic; internal Communist Party dissidents, the United States, NATO, all were tarred with the fascist brush by Soviet leaders and their ideological brethren in the West. But what about today?

http://tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/168504/kirchick-putin-ukraine
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Putin (& Pro-Putin Crowd) Warned of Fascism in Ukraine, But a Look Suggests Putin’s to Blame (Original Post) uhnope Mar 2015 OP
See MIRT got another one Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #1
What DU Pro-Putin crowd? PotatoChip Mar 2015 #2
you can see a few people who refer to the "US coup in Ukraine" which is something the Kremlin geek tragedy Mar 2015 #3
Got it. Thanks! (nt) PotatoChip Mar 2015 #4
MIRT just removed another one Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #5
yes, just search on "Ukraine coup" in the search box in the upper right hand corner of DU uhnope Mar 2015 #6

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
2. What DU Pro-Putin crowd?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:38 PM
Mar 2015

You linked to someone who is no longer a member.

Are there other pro-Putin DUers beyond 'Name Removed'?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. you can see a few people who refer to the "US coup in Ukraine" which is something the Kremlin
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:48 PM
Mar 2015

made up as a talking point.

It has zero factual basis, unless one believes everything Vladimir Putin says.

And yet some repeat it as if it were proven beyond any possible doubt.

Because they rely on the Russian state propaganda apparatus to tell them what to think.

And yes they are here, quoting articles by Putin mouthpieces and fans like Robert Parry, and Finian Cunningham, etc etc.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
6. yes, just search on "Ukraine coup" in the search box in the upper right hand corner of DU
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:54 PM
Mar 2015

you will see the same names over and over, pushing Kremlin talking points, lies, conspiracy theory and Putin apologia. "Robert Parry" and "Pilger" are also good searches.

I would link to the discussions but that might get me in trouble. Let's just say that they are purveyors of a kind of "new" thinking that is really just kookoo.

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