It looks like active duty Russian soldiers shot down MH17 in eastern Ukraine

[Blue_Tires]

This report summarizes the open source investigations into the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17) on July 17, 2014 in Ukraine. It draws on the work of Bellingcat and others who used open source information to uncover facts about the events that took place on July 17 and the origin of the Buk missile launcher that downed MH17.
The Buk Missile Launcher

After the downing of MH17 on July 17, a number of photographs and videos were shared online claiming to show the movements of a Buk missile launcher through separatist-controlled territory. It was possible to confirm the location where each image was recorded and discover additional information that further evidenced when and where the Buk missile launcher was on July 17. The following is an approximate timeline of where the Buk was and when:

10:45 am: Departed Donetsk eastbound along H21
11:00 am – 12:00 pm: Passed Zuhres and Shakhtersk en route to Torez along H21
12:00 pm – 12:45 pm: Entered and then passed through Torez (eastbound)
1:00 pm: Entered Snizhne
1:30 pm – 2:30 pm: Buk was unloaded from the Volvo low-loader truck in Snizhne; left the city (southbound)
4:20 pm: MH17 shot down

Before the first reports and images of the Buk missile launcher were recorded in Donetsk, communications intercepted by the Ukrainian Security Services (SBU) provided information on the earlier movements of the Buk missile launcher. Intercepts include separatists discussing the arrival of the Buk,[1]and references to a location inside Donetsk known as the “Motel.”[2]

http://www.businessinsider.com/active-duty-russian-soldiers-shot-down-mh17-in-eastern-ukraine-2015-10



Anybody who's ready to apologize and admit I've been correct since day one, you just go right ahead...

[leveymg]

1. There's a lot of questionable stuff on BI. Please explain, who's Bellingcat and why didn't

Bellingcat conclude this, or did (s)he?

This is a major story, if true - why isn't it being picked up elsewhere?

[Blue_Tires]

4. DUers link to RT, Sputnik, ZeroHedge, etc. daily

and BI is considered a "questionable source??"


This is the conclusion of bellingcat's research...

[newthinking]

2. Your kidding, Bellingcat (Elliott Higgons) editorial? Sure his "work" is loved by media narrators

and the Atlantic Council whom he has worked with (NATO), but his work is completely unscientific and he has been caught altering images.

Der Spiegle expert interview: "Reader of tea leaves":
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/expert-criticizes-allegations-of-russian-mh17-manipulation-a-1037125.html

I would not hang your hat on an opinion piece by someone that essentially is the "K. Kardashian" of journalism.

[bemildred]

3. Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. nt

[Blue_Tires]

5. Really? Let's hear your non-conspiracy thesis, then...

[bemildred]

6. Don't have one, waiting for the report.

I think we have maybe a 50% chance of getting some clarity from that and the after-babble. For the record I think the rebels did it, but that is not a fact.