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awake

(3,226 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:33 AM Dec 2015

Fire Debbie Wasserman Schultz

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/fire-debbie-wasserman-sch_b_8841576.html

"It's increasingly clear that Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Chair of the Democratic National Committee, isn't acting as a neutral party Chair, trying to insure a fair and democratic primary and building the Democratic Party in the states.

Rather, she's acting as a shill for Hillary Clinton, doing everything in her power to ensure that no one will effectively challenge Hillary's coronation as the nominee.

Wasserman Schultz is committing political malpractice and should be removed."........

....."No matter. Wasserman Schultz crippled the Sanders campaign and virtually invited the press to question Sanders' honesty and integrity at Saturday's Democratic debate. Few doubt that Sanders is one of the most honest politicians in the nation. But Wasserman Schultz managed to pour dirt over him.".....

...."So far, more than 68 million viewers have watched the Republican debates while less than 24 million people have watched the Democratic debates.

Wasserman Schultz may think she's protecting Hillary by denying her Democratic opponents the chance to be seen by more voters. But whomever the Democratic nominee is, she's guaranteeing that during this primary season, far more people get to hear the Republican message than the Democratic message. The Republicans have used the debates to ramp up the fear factor in the American public, which is likely to help them in the general election, even as the Democrats have largely remained on the sidelines and Obama's approval ratings have plummeted.".....
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Fire Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Original Post) awake Dec 2015 OP
"It can no longer be denied" No, but media sure have been doing their best for months to ignore it. merrily Dec 2015 #1
DWS did not violate the database, fire the other violators, admit the wrong doing Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #2
Did you read the article? awake Dec 2015 #3
Does not change the facts there was a violation of the database in which all the Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #10
I sujest you read it DWS is actually doing harm to HRC not helping her awake Dec 2015 #13
I have read this over and over, no valid proof, how DWS is harming Sanders, each candidate Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #15
She is incompetent and ruining the party. Gore1FL Dec 2015 #4
Totally agree! Grins Dec 2015 #21
Sanders campaign's Clinton data searches appear to violate federal law. stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #5
Debbie Wasserman Schultz stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #6
Why, because she lost both houses to the GOP? zeemike Dec 2015 #8
It may start with 36% of voters turning out for midterm elections. It will continue until Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #14
The beatings will continue until morale improves? truebluegreen Dec 2015 #16
Do you want to continue to have the republicans in office? That should be inspiration enough. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #18
OK. Nominate someone who supports truebluegreen Dec 2015 #20
Hillary supports Democratic policies. It isn't only the presidential office Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #30
Small "d" democratic policies. truebluegreen Dec 2015 #34
I do also, Hillary best fits my ideas of Democratic policies. PERIOD Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #55
Like I care. truebluegreen Dec 2015 #57
This is such classic third way thinking Kentonio Dec 2015 #58
So DWS is trying to teach us a lesson then? zeemike Dec 2015 #17
What a superb marketing plan that is, teach the customers a lesson. nt bemildred Dec 2015 #22
Party unity would be a good thing, we are about electing Democrats here on DU. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #32
So the important thing to you is the brand name. zeemike Dec 2015 #42
Yes there are those who do not hold true to Democratic ideas but much better than republicans. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #54
Well I am not a sure thing. zeemike Dec 2015 #56
This reply makes your opinions have zero credibility ybbor Dec 2015 #9
That explains a lot.... truebluegreen Dec 2015 #11
HA HA! Debbie, herself disagrees! bwahahaha Cosmic Kitten Dec 2015 #12
+1000 mountain grammy Dec 2015 #24
Her incompetence is appalling PatSeg Dec 2015 #26
^^^This magical thyme Dec 2015 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Dec 2015 #37
Ha! Plucketeer Dec 2015 #40
"Acting like a shill"? SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #7
+1 Plucketeer Dec 2015 #41
+2 mindwalker_i Dec 2015 #53
1% Debbie does it again. It's the end of the Democratic party as we knew it. The big tent is closed Ford_Prefect Dec 2015 #19
As much as I'd like to see it Plucketeer Dec 2015 #44
Has anyone heard SmittynMo Dec 2015 #23
Wasserman-Schultz has done nothing wrong here Tarc Dec 2015 #25
How so? catbyte Dec 2015 #29
+1 stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #35
Well ----- she DID say: Plucketeer Dec 2015 #47
The anti-Sanders campaign here has more than a little misandry at its heart. hay rick Dec 2015 #48
K N R Faux pas Dec 2015 #27
No kidding. She has gotten beyond tiresome. catbyte Dec 2015 #28
DWS is the WORST thing to happen to the Democratic Party since lobodons Dec 2015 #31
Fire NGPVAN, too! nt valerief Dec 2015 #33
It's more corrupt than even I thought... SoapBox Dec 2015 #36
Holy Crap! Plucketeer Dec 2015 #51
That is an excellent graphic. earthside Dec 2015 #52
Where is Trump when we need him? Debbie, -You're fired- !! Hiraeth Dec 2015 #38
another year and you'll find him in the white house, thanks to DWS. nt magical thyme Dec 2015 #46
don't scare me like that !! Hiraeth Dec 2015 #49
Where's the petition I can sign for this? 4dsc Dec 2015 #39
"68 million viewers have watched the Republican debates ..." Babel_17 Dec 2015 #43
All I want for Christmas is a new DNC chair. nt hay rick Dec 2015 #50

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. "It can no longer be denied" No, but media sure have been doing their best for months to ignore it.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:36 AM
Dec 2015

The media got the benefit of the first amendment because media was supposed to keep politicians honest, not be their propaganda arm.

I mean, as long as we're talking shills......

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. DWS did not violate the database, fire the other violators, admit the wrong doing
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:36 AM
Dec 2015

And let the investigation go forward. Shame on the decision to violate the database, Sanders is not happy.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Does not change the facts there was a violation of the database in which all the
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:49 AM
Dec 2015

campaigns agreed they would not violate. DWS locked out the Sanders campaign because they violated the agreement. Now that she has gotten the information the Sanders campaign will cooperate with the investigation they are letting the campaign back into the database. I have read post after post complaining about DWS, it is the DNC, she is the chairperson and not guilty of many of the accusations thrown, it needs to stop.

awake

(3,226 posts)
13. I sujest you read it DWS is actually doing harm to HRC not helping her
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:52 AM
Dec 2015

And as a result we could loss this next fall

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. I have read this over and over, no valid proof, how DWS is harming Sanders, each candidate
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:55 AM
Dec 2015

has to run their own campaign. I have not seen any proof of your accusation.

Gore1FL

(21,964 posts)
4. She is incompetent and ruining the party.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:33 AM
Dec 2015

The results of 2014 demonstrate this well enough.

We need someone competent. we need someone unifying.

Grins

(7,921 posts)
21. Totally agree!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:11 AM
Dec 2015
"...isn't acting as a neutral party Chair" - Ha! Who cares? She hasn't, and never has, acted as a competent Chair of the Democratic National Committee, either!!!

She has held that position for more than four years and two elections for which she has a record of FAILURE! And she's far too cozy with certain Florida Rethuglicans.

She did manage to get herself re-elected, of course.

stonecutter357

(12,779 posts)
6. Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:37 AM
Dec 2015

is one of the best Chair of the Democratic National Committee we have had .

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. Why, because she lost both houses to the GOP?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:46 AM
Dec 2015

If that is being the best then I don't understand politics.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. It may start with 36% of voters turning out for midterm elections. It will continue until
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:53 AM
Dec 2015

voters realize if they do not want republicans in office they have to vote. Republicans vote.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
16. The beatings will continue until morale improves?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:55 AM
Dec 2015

is that your point? Did you ever consider that it is easier to inspire Democrats to vote when they have democratic policies to vote for?

Apparently it hasn't occurred to DWS. "Not As Crazy As Those Guys" doesn't cut it. Clearly.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. Do you want to continue to have the republicans in office? That should be inspiration enough.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:59 AM
Dec 2015

Voters who do not vote should not complain. How many of the Democratic issues do you think the republicans are going to put into place? Inspiration comes in electing Democrats.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
20. OK. Nominate someone who supports
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:06 AM
Dec 2015

democratic policies (pray note the small "d&quot and we'll be fine.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
30. Hillary supports Democratic policies. It isn't only the presidential office
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:32 AM
Dec 2015

It is Congress and state houses. We either care about our future or we don't. The future generations needs to be more concerned, they will be living in hard times with Republicans everywhere.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
34. Small "d" democratic policies.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:47 AM
Dec 2015

I don't give a flying fat rodent's behind what label a person uses--"Democratic" or otherwise--I care about the policies. Period.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
58. This is such classic third way thinking
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:56 PM
Dec 2015

"Oh, people aren't coming out to vote for us anymore? Well that's on them, they should vote for whatever we deign to offer them, because we're the Democratic party, and we're automatically better than the Republicans damnit!".

So much arrogance and condescension from the top levels of the party structure, its hard to watch.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
17. So DWS is trying to teach us a lesson then?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:58 AM
Dec 2015

And the lesson is party unity even in the face of being Republican light...the triangulation lesson plan.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. Party unity would be a good thing, we are about electing Democrats here on DU.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:35 AM
Dec 2015

It seems like we have those posting here who are not Democrats and we should work harder to push Democrats.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
42. So the important thing to you is the brand name.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:20 AM
Dec 2015

The important thing to me is democratic principles and policy...if all you want is junk brand names will be good enough for you.

It seems we have become so superficial, and some people want DU to be like a pep really for a high school football team.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
54. Yes there are those who do not hold true to Democratic ideas but much better than republicans.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:42 PM
Dec 2015

Some people have different ideas they think Democrats should push and if I have a choice of candidates in a Democratic primaries then I try to vote for the one who best suits my ideas but in the general election I vote Democratic.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
56. Well I am not a sure thing.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:12 PM
Dec 2015

And even if I was I would never let them know I was. It is the best way to get cheated and lied to.
And it insures you always go down not up.
I never vote out of fear and never will.

ybbor

(1,605 posts)
9. This reply makes your opinions have zero credibility
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:49 AM
Dec 2015

Look at her handling of the 2014 election alone and your comment makes no sense. We would be better served by a blind squirrel at the helm. At least it would occasionally find a nut.

She fucking sucks!

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
11. That explains a lot....
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:51 AM
Dec 2015

We hold the White House but the GOPee has the House and the Senate, plus 32 governorships, plus 68 out of 98 partisan state legislative chambers -- the highest number in the history of the party....AND Republicans currently hold the governorship and both houses of the legislature in 23 states, while Democrats have that level of control in only seven.

"...one of the best Chair (sic) of the Democratic National Committee we have had."

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
12. HA HA! Debbie, herself disagrees! bwahahaha
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:52 AM
Dec 2015
[font size=12][font color=red]We have suffered devastating losses at all levels of government since 2008 including[/font size][/font color]:
- 69 House Seats

- 13 Senate Seats

- 910 State Legislative Seats

- 30 State Legislative Chambers

- 11 Governorships


http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/democratic_victory_task_force_preliminary_findings.pdf

Yeah, BESTEST Chairperson EVER!!!!1111!111

PatSeg

(49,751 posts)
26. Her incompetence is appalling
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:24 AM
Dec 2015

UNLESS she's working for the republicans. The woman needs to resign now.

Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #6)

Ford_Prefect

(8,210 posts)
19. 1% Debbie does it again. It's the end of the Democratic party as we knew it. The big tent is closed
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:02 AM
Dec 2015

The kind of paranoia currently on display at the head of the Democratic party closely resembles the Republican campaign that put GWB into office. Open hostility towards any but the preferred candidate before the primary, loyalty pledges, vicious partisan attacks, swift boating fellow party members, and a rat-fucking program lead by David Brock.

They have managed to do what the Republicans never could by alienating traditional Democratic voters at a time when we need every vote that hasn't been gerrymandered, contested, challenged, denied, or just plain stolen.

It is one thing when an individual candidate acts this way. It is entirely another when the whole party leadership abuses the voter's trust by strangling discussion of important issues within the party and scuttling the chances for down line state and local party races.

I regret to say it may be too late and that DWS leaving the head of the party would not repair the damage done. But I fear it may be so. I'm seeing that kind of damage locally.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
44. As much as I'd like to see it
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:26 AM
Dec 2015

I'm afraid your contentions are correct. I don't know that a change of leadership would be a real boon at this point. The current leader has undoubtedly assembled a corps as slanted as she is. That would mean building a whole new organization - a daunting task.

I think the best we can hope for is to upset the spin of the opposition's top. IF we can induce enough wobble, we can have a chance at SOME kind of a leveled playing field - a field where our candidate has a chance at winning - a match-up where the opposition isn't the one in control of the scorecards.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
23. Has anyone heard
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:14 AM
Dec 2015

ANYTHING from her today? Why did she open up access again? What changed her mind? Why no press conference with questions? Will Bernie's team be allowed to research the audit trails? What were the actual results of the so called 24 hits? Who copied the data?

This is what was posted today:
We are extremely pleased that the DNC has reversed its outrageous decision to take Sen. Sanders’ data. The information we provided tonight is essentially the same information we already sent them by email on Thursday,” said Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ campaign manager.

Well, that's all fine and dandy. With such a big story here, dominating the news yesterday, wouldn't you think she would go back to the MSM to explain her actions? Noooooooooooooooooo.... She' such a weasel and a snake in the grass. Democracy? Not with her in charge. And this is more proof that the DNC, MSM, and the 1% are in cahoots. This smells big time of corruption.

Tarc

(10,576 posts)
25. Wasserman-Schultz has done nothing wrong here
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:23 AM
Dec 2015

The Sanders campaign did something wrong and was sanctioned for it.

The anti-DNC campaign here has more than a little misogyny at its heart.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
47. Well ----- she DID say:
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

That there would be an "independent investigation" before the Sanders campaign would be granted access again. Maybe my powers of perception are askew, but I just don't see an independent investigation being assembled and instituted with light speed. Wha - they had an "independent investigator team" on standby???

Nah - the lawsuit (which I pray will proceed) and the pressure of petitions moved the iron-hearted chairwoman to change course - realizing she'd steered her vessel towards the waterfall's edge.

hay rick

(8,268 posts)
48. The anti-Sanders campaign here has more than a little misandry at its heart.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

And ageism, I forgot ageism. Or maybe we should stick with a discussion of the relevant events and issues. Oh look, a squirrel!

catbyte

(35,910 posts)
28. No kidding. She has gotten beyond tiresome.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:30 AM
Dec 2015

Completely ineffective, she really needs to go.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
31. DWS is the WORST thing to happen to the Democratic Party since
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:33 AM
Dec 2015

the Democratic Party was the Republican party!!

earthside

(6,960 posts)
52. That is an excellent graphic.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:53 AM
Dec 2015

I just cannot believe that DWS -- as a co-chair of Mrs. Clinton's 2008 campaign -- is still DNC chair.

She should have resigned the day Clinton announced her candidacy this year.

The conflict of interest is so obvious that the current controversy was going to be inevitable.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
39. Where's the petition I can sign for this?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:04 AM
Dec 2015

Because I'll be glad to sign one demanding her resignation.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
43. "68 million viewers have watched the Republican debates ..."
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:25 AM
Dec 2015

Can't defend this, and if we don't reclaim at least the Senate then we know who needs to be replaced en masse. Everyone in the establishment who is OK with the current setup will be responsible for the election results.

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