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forest444

(5,902 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:30 PM Jan 2016

World's most dangerous drug: ‘Devil’s Breath’ from Colombia blocks free will, wipes memory, & kills.

A hazardous drug that eliminates free will and can wipe the memory of its victims is currently being dealt on the streets of Colombia. The drug is called scopolamine;but is colloquially known as "the Devil’s Breath" and is derived from a particular type of tree common to South America: the borrachero tree – loosely translated as the "get-you-drunk" tree.

Stories surrounding the drug are the stuff of urban legends, with some telling horror stories of how people were raped, forced to empty their bank accounts, and even coerced into giving up an organ. Vice writer Ryan Duffy traveled to Colombia to reveal the shocking culture of another Colombian drug world, interviewing those who deal the drug and those who have fallen victim to it.

Demencia Black, a drug dealer in the capital of Bogotá, said the drug is frightening for the simplicity in which it can be administered. He told Vice that scopolamine can be blown in the face of a passer-by on the street, and that within minutes that person is under the drug’s effect. Scopolamine is odorless and tasteless.

"You can guide them wherever you want," he explained. "It’s like they’re a child." The drug, he said, turns people into complete zombies and blocks memories from forming. So even after the drug wears off, victims have no recollection as to what happened.

According to the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, the drug – also known as hyoscine – causes the same level of memory loss as diazepam. In ancient times, the drug was given to the mistresses of dead Colombian leaders; they were told to enter their master’s grave, where they were buried alive.

In modern times, the CIA used the drug as part of Cold War interrogations, with the hope of using it like a truth serum. Because of the drug’s chemical makeup, however, it also induces powerful hallucinations.

Experts are baffled as to why Colombia is riddled with scopolamine-related crimes; but wager much of it has to do with the country’s torn drug-culture past, and the ongoing civil war.

At: http://www.healthfreedoms.org/the-most-dangerous-drug-in-the-world-devils-breath-chemical-from-colombia-can-block-free-will-wipe-memory-and-even-kill/

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World's most dangerous drug: ‘Devil’s Breath’ from Colombia blocks free will, wipes memory, & kills. (Original Post) forest444 Jan 2016 OP
It's used as an anti-nausea medication. scopolamine patches phantom power Jan 2016 #1
Sure. Just as many opiates have pharmaceutical uses. forest444 Jan 2016 #2
Unreliable anti-vaxxer, anti-abortion site, Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #3
The story was originally published on 'Vice'. forest444 Jan 2016 #5
Then I would publish a link to the original source Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #7
OMG horrific... What is with people?! JudyM Jan 2016 #4
"Devil's Breath: Urban Legend or the World's Most Scary Drug?" TexasProgresive Jan 2016 #6
Snopes covers another variation of the story Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #8
Long used as a "truth serum"... malthaussen Jan 2016 #9

forest444

(5,902 posts)
2. Sure. Just as many opiates have pharmaceutical uses.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jan 2016

As well as a dark side, if it's in the wrong hands.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. Unreliable anti-vaxxer, anti-abortion site,
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jan 2016

This sites top story claims PP made huge profits selling "baby parts".

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. Then I would publish a link to the original source
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jan 2016

rather than a rabidly anti-abortion/anti-science site.

Also, this story has been running around a while, and despite Vice being genuinely reliable, this one is dubious, in my opinion.

The Guardian has a more measured take on the story:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/shortcuts/2015/sep/02/devils-breath-aka-scopolamine-can-it-really-zombify-you

The rest of the links in the news tab are from pretty unreliable sources.

JudyM

(29,204 posts)
4. OMG horrific... What is with people?!
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jan 2016

"In ancient times, the drug was given to the mistresses of dead Colombian leaders; they were told to enter their master’s grave, where they were buried alive. "

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
6. "Devil's Breath: Urban Legend or the World's Most Scary Drug?"
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.drugs.com/illicit/devils-breath.html
snip:
Pharmacologically, scopolamine is classified as an anticholinergic medication and belladonna alkaloid. Side effects like dry mouth, blurred vision, headache, urinary retention, and dizziness can occur even at the low dose used in the transdermal patch. Overdoses can lead to a dangerous fast heart rate, dilated pupils, toxic psychosis, confusion, vivid hallucinations, seizures or coma, among other events. Use with alcohol is warned against in the official package labeling. Combining it with alcohol, as in a spiked drink, or with other sedative drugs would certainly hasten central nervous system depression. Confusion, disorientation, excitability, and amnesia could ensue with oral consumption. But immediate “zombie-like” side effects by blowing it into someones face? That seems unlikely, from a pharmacologic standpoint. Others have also questioned the reports of robberies taking place when the powder is blown into someone's face or placed on a business card.

Accounts of scopolamine being used worldwide are available. In Paris, a report from Newsweek Europe surfaced that elderly people were being targeted by a Chinese international network. The U.S. State Department also warns on its website that travelers to Colombia may be at risk of robbery due to criminals using a variety of drugs, not just scopolamine. Medical case reports have been published of women from London having prolonged headaches after possible clandestine scopolamine exposure. Reports of illegal use of scopolamine in the U.S. are available, but unsubstantiated. The reliability of these all of these reports are difficult to confirm.

snip:
Is Devil's Breath actually scopolamine, an urban legend, or some other drug being used to incapacitate tourists? Maybe it's a combination of all three. Urban legend or not, the use of drugs to incapacitate, rob or rape victims can and does happen domestially and internationally. Because of that, a dose of good sense should always be used to avoid being poisoned, whether traveling abroad or just going out for the night in your own hometown.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
9. Long used as a "truth serum"...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 11:18 AM
Jan 2016

... by various spooks for "chemical interrogation." But one has to be careful using it, as the subject will free-associate and often just agree with whatever is suggested to him.

-- Mal

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