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newthinking

(3,982 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:40 PM Jun 2016

Where are the Missing California Primary Votes?


Seems there are huge numbers of provisional ballots that were left uncounted..... what a disgrace..

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/09/where-are-the-missing-california-primary-votes/

Excerpt:

6. After I finished filling out my ballots, a woman takes my ballot with the prop measures and slides it in the machine, then LOOKS at my presidential ballot vote and stuffs it in a box that is filled to the brim with other provisional ballots. I asked her when it would be counted and she said in a few weeks.

7. Before I even get home the opposing candidate has been proclaimed winner.

I already reported all this BS to Bernie’s voter complaint hotline, but I’m ready for a revolution y’all.”

That experience was shared by many others in California. This LA Times story is headlined: “It was just chaos: Broken machines, incomplete voter rolls leave some wondering whether their ballots will count”. The report documents in writing and video the experience of numerous people with the observation that “experts said the culprit for Tuesday’s voting problems seems to be a confluence of factors — old voting machines, a competitive election that has drawn new voters, plus complex state voting laws that can be hard for poll volunteers and voters to follow.”

Huffington Post reported “LA Primary Mired in Voting Problems.” Across the city many people were forced to vote “provisionally” due to machine breakdowns and other problems.

Prior to the election there were reports of poll workers being misinformed in official training sessions.

As of noon the day after the election, the total count is shown to be 1.94M for Hillary and 1.50M for Bernie for total vote count of 3.44Million votes. This contrasts with a total vote count of over 5 Million in the 2008 California primary election. Where are all the missing votes? How many provisional votes have not yet been counted?
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Where are the Missing California Primary Votes? (Original Post) newthinking Jun 2016 OP
They didnt call CA MFM008 Jun 2016 #1
Try Twitter or Haight and Asbury. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #2
California does not use computer screens that automatically tabulate all votes. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #3
You mean there's a law that says fewer people can't vote in an election??? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #4
They sleep with the fishes. CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #5
Silly question. Igel Jun 2016 #6

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
1. They didnt call CA
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jun 2016

till between 2-3 AM PST. I get alerts from several news organizations.
They called Michigan for Sanders at 1% of votes in.
Its over.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. California does not use computer screens that automatically tabulate all votes.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jun 2016

It takes time to scan in millions of votes.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
6. Silly question.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jun 2016

The official vote totals are weeks away from being certified. People are getting upset and suspicious because the preliminary vote totals are preliminary and aren't final.

Yes, it's a question as to how many provisional votes haven't been counted. But a lot of them won't be counted because they'll be considered invalid for one reason or another. In the end, there probably aren't going to be half a million of them outstanding, and it's highly unlikely that they'll all be for Sanders.

There is a process. It's on-going. It's a known quantity, at least to some people who have been paying attention.


And, yes, every election is imperfect.

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