How the election looks to Trump supporters. (The Atlantic)

[Kablooie]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/backing-donald-trump/493619/
This is an interesting article by David Frum that attempts to present the election from a Trumpet's viewpoint.

It has it's own strange reasoning but I could see this kind of thinking drawing many people into voting booths that never voted before.

Perhaps 40% of the population doesn't vote and a large portion of them are potential Trump supporters. If a percentage of them decide to join in for the first time it could tip things in his favor. That paired with the lack of excitement for Clinton could mean we will wake up to President Trump in a few months. (I know many of you found the convention energizing but I don't feel that's how it affected the majority of the country. Think of 2008. Hillary does not command the same kind of excitement that Obama did. Trump does, among many of his followers.)

These people couldn't care less about human rights overseas or international treaties or defending the Constitutional. They want someone who runs the country the way they would run it. A leader who makes their own narrow interests the centerpiece of American policy and viciously destroys anyone who disagrees.

Some excerpts:

You people in the Acela corridor aren’t getting it. Again. You think Donald Trump is screwing up because he keeps saying things that you find offensive or off-the-wall. But he’s not talking to you. You’re not his audience, you never were, and you never will be. He’s playing this game in a different way from anybody you’ve ever seen. And he’s winning too, in a different way from anybody you’ve ever seen.

He’s the boss of the party now, he’s going to be treated like the boss, and if you don’t respect him, he’s going to bring down the hammer. That’s a good lesson for everybody else—and look how quiet and respectful all those Republicans are now. Donald knows that Reince Priebus and Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and even Mike Pence want nothing better than to lay him low. But every time they bite their tongues as he takes off the head of Ted or whomever … he makes it that much more impossible for them ever to say, ‘Oh Donald? No, I had nothing to with him.’ They all wear the Trump logo now—and they always will wear that logo, whatever happens in November.

We went to Iraq because you said it was better to fight them over there than fight them over here. Then you invited them over here anyway! Then you said that we had to keep inviting them over here if we wanted to win over there. And we figured out: You care a lot more about the “inviting" part than the “winning" part. So no more.

When you squawk: 'Oh, it’s so horrible, he’ll waterboard prisoners, he won’t ask our troops to risk their lives so as to protect a terrorist’s mother-in-law …' when you talk like that, what our people hear is that you are a lot clearer about what you won’t do to protect the American people than what you will do.

Here’s the bottom line. You live in an America that’s still a lot like your parents’ America. It’s mostly white. Nobody’s displacing and replacing you. It’s pretty safe too. You can read about rising crime—you don’t live it. In your America, you worry about how there aren’t enough women making Hollywood films or sitting on corporate boards. In our America, the gender gap closed a long time ago—and then went into reverse. Obama in the Oval Office was humiliating enough. But Hillary will be worse: We’re going to lose any idea at all that leadership is a man’s job.

Read that great book ... about Boston’s Mayor Curley, The Rascal King. Curley was a scam artist. The Boston Irish loved him for it—even when he scammed them, too—because Curley pissed off the people the Boston Irish hated and who hated them. (I can still say ‘pissed off,’ right?) It’s going to be just that way with Donald. I mean, Mr. Trump. I mean, President Trump.”

I don't see much that Hillary can do to stop this. No appeal to logic or history or American ideals will change this kind of thinking. It's based on an ignorant, narrow worldview that derides all the complex checks and balances that keep the world running. They believe a simpleminded dictatorship that pays lip service to their woes will create a new and better world for themselves and if it hurts others, who cares. That's someone else's problem.

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. The polls aren't reflecting this train of thought.

Trump is beginning to nose dive. These kind of articles underestimate the intelligence of the regular joe.

[Warpy]

2. It's been this way in the south since I was a kid in the 50s

It's why ignorant SOBs like Jesse Helms had such incredibly long careers in Congress. They knew they could count on him to piss off all the people they thought they hated because they'd never met any of them.

Now it's spread to places outside the south, most notably the midwest, now redder than Dixie.

I have no clue what to do about this sort of thing. It's visceral and not open to logic, rational persuasion, or any sort of reality check.

I suppose we'll have to hope we can outnumber them, that they won't want to miss a minute on bible TV or Pox News and be so blinded by misdirected rage they can't find the polls.

Otherwise, they'll just continue to send too many anti American, worthless sacks of crap where they can do the worst damage to all of us.

[YOHABLO]

3. It's pretty scary stuff. I know and I live in the south as well. Just plain idiots

down here. What happened to this country? Is it that we don't teach civics in schools anymore? Is it fear of everything? But I do know this, these people will not bend an inch from their false beliefs. You can not convince them that RIGHT has been hood winking them for years. They think someone like Trump is going to kick some ass around the world and yet he's going to be kicking the middle classes ass. I've never seen anything so pathetic. Well, yes I have. The election of Bushy Jr. But he had a cabal working for him. Trump just makes shit up and people believe him because he has billions. You know, why not listen to the billionaire?

[Cicada]

4. These voters need to know trump will be forced to gut social security

These noncollege voters get social security or plan to. It's a huge share of their income. They need to understand that trumps huge tax cuts for the rich Will force huge cuts in social security. The republicans will increase military spending. Even if they cut all welfare spending there is still a huge deficit. The only other big spending is social security and medicare. Waste fraud and abuse? Reagan went after it and so did both bushes. And bill and Barack too. There is no more waste which can be cut. So republican sure as shooting will decide to get social security. It's a fact Jack.

And trump voters sure as bell don't want that.

That's what HRC needs voters to understand.

Pennsylvania and florida have a boatload of trump voters getting social security as most of their income.

[Kablooie]

5. But that won't happen to current recipients.

It will effect mainly younger people who don't think about SS yet.
If something doesn't affect the Trump voter personally it's not an issue for them.

[Cicada]

6. Historically current ss recipients go bananas over allegedly future cuts