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Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:57 PM Aug 2016

Goldman Sachs Says It May Be Forced to Fundamentally Question How Capitalism Is Working

Source: Bloomberg


But what if margins stay elevated? That too is possible, and its implications could be unsettling.
Goldman wrote: "We are always wary of guiding for mean reversion. But, if we are wrong and high margins manage to endure for the next few years (particularly when global demand growth is below trend), there are broader questions to be asked about the efficacy of capitalism."

In other words, profit margins should naturally mean-revert and oscillate. The existence of fat margins should encourage new competitors and pricing cycles that cause those margins to erode; conversely, at the bottom of the cycle, low margins should lead to weaker players exiting the business and giving stronger companies more breathing space. If that cycle doesn't continue, something strange is taking place.


Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-03/goldman-sachs-says-it-may-be-forced-to-fundamentally-question-how-capitalism-is-working

Wow, not often do the cracks and misalignments get highlighted this clearly.
(sorry 'bout having it in the wrong place first)
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Goldman Sachs Says It May Be Forced to Fundamentally Question How Capitalism Is Working (Original Post) Sentath Aug 2016 OP
what we have isn't really capitalism. it's closer to economic anarchy. unblock Aug 2016 #1
crapitalism. losers do not die. wall street is a casino. pansypoo53219 Aug 2016 #2
What we have is BillyBobBrilliant Aug 2016 #3
Lenin Was Wrong Wolf Frankula Aug 2016 #4


(53,174 posts)
1. what we have isn't really capitalism. it's closer to economic anarchy.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:07 PM
Aug 2016

certainly, that's what republicans and right-wing libertarians preach.

economic anarchy is just letting businesses get away with whatever they can get away with. minimal regulation.

capitalism is like most sports games, it requires referees. someone has to prevent inappropriate monopolies, someone has to prevent anti-competitive behavior, someone has to internalize externalities. that simply can't be done without government intervention, regulation, lawsuits, enforcement, etc.

if margins stay high for a protracted time, chances are really good that the incumbents have erected big barriers to entry, preventing real competition. at that point, it's no longer capitalism, it's economic anarchy. or, if the government is actually complicit in limiting competition, perhaps it is fascism. but it's not capitalism.

genuine competition is the cornerstone of capitalism.


(805 posts)
3. What we have is
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 04:43 PM
Aug 2016

Toxic Capitalism. Where money is made from money rather than effort, products, or services. The wealth is a house of cards, not based on material goods or public benefits.

Wolf Frankula

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4. Lenin Was Wrong
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 02:31 AM
Aug 2016

The highest and final form of capitalism is NOT imperialism. It is casino capitalism which has replaced it. Markets, market share imports, exports and prices are not so important now. All that is important is share price, nothing else. The world economy is based on trading pieces of paper.


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