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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:10 AM Jan 2017

Meryl Streep has hit on star-struck Trumps big weakness

Monday 9 January 2017 16.30 GMT


Calling the president-elect racist, sexist or a bully doesn’t hit home. But Streep, in her withering Golden Globes speech, found a way to get under his skin

Where innumerable others have failed over the past months, years, decades, Meryl Streep looks to have really struck a nerve with Donald Trump at the Golden Globe awards last night. Not by simply criticising the president-elect for the bullying, potentially violent culture he threatens to bring to American public life. Many have done that before, with equally accomplished thespian delivery, including Hugh Laurie earlier that evening (“I accept this award on behalf of psychopathic billionaires everywhere”). Streep built on that sentiment in her acceptance speech for the Cecil B DeMille award, condemning Trump’s mockery of a disabled reporter in a speech in 2015. But Streep’s masterstroke was to characterise Trump’s antics as performance.

“There was one performance this year that stunned me,” she said. “It sank its hooks in my heart. Not because it was good; there was nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job.” She sounds like the most withering theatre critic ever. If that was a review and you had to work a quote out of it for a poster, the best you could do would be: “‘Effective’ – Meryl Streep.”

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Clearly Trump loves the idea of “being a star”, and not just for the sexual predation opportunities, but the stars don’t want him. They flocked around Clinton on the campaign trail – not that it made any difference (it seems the media underestimated the celebrity wattage of Scott Baio). It looks to be the same post-election: all the stories so far have been about celebrities who have turned down the invitation to appear at his inauguration. They don’t want him in their gang, and he doesn’t like it.

In 2007, Trump received his own star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame – confirmation, despite so much criticism, that he really is a star. “It was something that was given to me by some very powerful people in Hollywood and I’m very honoured by it,” he said at the time. But in recent months, Trump’s star has been repeatedly vandalised. It has had graffiti sprayed on it, including a Nazi swastika, people have taken selfies raising their middle fingers to it, spitting on it, urinating on it, or letting their dogs shit on it. In July last year, an artist built a miniature wall around Trump’s star, topped with razor wire and tiny border signs saying “Keep Out”. And last October, a man disguised as a construction worker took a sledgehammer to it. He had intended to remove it and auction it off to raise funds for the women who accused Trump of groping them. Ronald Reagan’s star never had to put up with this.

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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/09/meryl-streep-trump-big-weakness-golden-globes-speech
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Meryl Streep has hit on star-struck Trumps big weakness (Original Post) inanna Jan 2017 OP
Seeking acceptance by the cool kids cilla4progress Jan 2017 #1
"Seeking acceptance by the cool kids".... check out article at link... Bill USA Jan 2017 #21
Yes, and she lead up to it perfectly flamingdem Jan 2017 #2
She couldn't have kicked his ass any harder BeyondGeography Jan 2017 #3
+10000 and i loved the smack down nt iluvtennis Jan 2017 #9
her speech was a thing of beauty drmeow Jan 2017 #4
I read mercuryblues Jan 2017 #5
Delightful article! Thank you. Judi Lynn Jan 2017 #6
How do you get a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? You pay $30,000 LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2017 #7
Trump probably got his "charity" to pay the $30,000. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #12
so when does Scott Baio get a star? pstokely Jan 2017 #15
They have never removed a star from the Walk of Fame LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2017 #16
This was touched upon by Frontline's "The Choice 2016". Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #8
I just noticed that aside from not pouting, the lady has a stronger chin than the boy in a mansuit Hekate Jan 2017 #10
You're right! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #11
His face got stuck. Also, he really has a weak chin. I've noticed in his sons... Hekate Jan 2017 #13
Practice makes imperfect! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #14
This is his high school portrait: Aristus Jan 2017 #17
That really is shocking Hekate Jan 2017 #18
Good Looking erpowers Jan 2017 #20
She is Not the Only One erpowers Jan 2017 #19
k and r.. Stuart G Jan 2017 #22

cilla4progress

(24,723 posts)
1. Seeking acceptance by the cool kids
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:19 AM
Jan 2017

As we all are. Difference is he thinks he can buy and bully his way in. Doesn't work that way.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
21. "Seeking acceptance by the cool kids".... check out article at link...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:12 PM
Jan 2017

.. Punk Talk is the vernacular of the Republican Politician and the Republican Sucker:


A Conservative's courage: Punk Talk

Punk Talk is a method of compensating for a lack of confidence and low self esteem. It is commonly identified with adolescence, a period during which young people are seeking group acceptance and dealing with issues of self-esteem. Punk Talk is intended to convince others (as well as the speaker) that the speaker is NOT A BIT fearful and NOT A BIT intimidated by anyone - or anything. Punk Talk is the affectation of real self confidence and meant to convince others the speaker is possessed of actual healthy self esteem. The good news for teens is most grow up and grow out of it. They will mature, become adults and develop a healthy self esteem and not need Punk Talk anymore. But not all teens do. Which brings me to the purpose of this post.

Now, let's be clear about this. All of us, at one time or another, can get angry and 'lash out' at someone. But Conservatives it seems, almost can't along without the aid of Punk Talk. That Punk Talk is an outgrowth of self esteem issues is apparent in that it nearly always involves speaking derisively of the other person ... rather than of what the other person is saying. The derisive speech is intended to send the message to the listener: "Ha! I look down on you!" This kind of talk is only necessary when the speaker actually is lacking in confidence and needs a confidence 'boost'. Even a short time on this site reveals the importance of Punk Talk to Conservatives - based upon how much they use it. Many Conservatives posting on this site seem to think Punk Talk takes the place of a valid argument(!?).
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flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
2. Yes, and she lead up to it perfectly
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:31 AM
Jan 2017

"But Streep’s masterstroke was to characterise Trump’s antics as performance."

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
3. She couldn't have kicked his ass any harder
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:43 AM
Jan 2017

Revived the worst moment of his singularly godawful campaign and put it front-and-center.

drmeow

(5,015 posts)
4. her speech was a thing of beauty
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:52 AM
Jan 2017

and a master stroke. She never named him, she was not partisan, she did not attack his positions, she did not raise her voice (admittedly, she couldn't), and she did not set out to do any of those things. She psychologically diminished him in a way which could only be challenged with the equivalent of "I know you are but what am I." Yet, for all that, she eliminated him with a razor sharp scalpel while celebrating all he professes to oppose. Finally, her message was not to him ("I'm not talking to you!&quot but to those who oppose him - "I've got your back and everyone in Hollywood should also have your back." Spectacular!

mercuryblues

(14,526 posts)
5. I read
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:03 AM
Jan 2017

an article earlier about how the moneyed elite don't want him in their clique either. Wait until he finds out the ex-presidents club will reject him.

If he had a complete personality transplant he might fair better with the in crowd.

Oh. Wait. Someone should tell him, he isn't in high school anymore.

7. How do you get a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? You pay $30,000
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:00 AM
Jan 2017

You have to have a recognizable name, pay an application fee of $30,000, and do a song-and-dance for the approval committee.

There is an application fee.

An application fee.

They don't call you up and say, "We want to give you a star." You make an application and pay a fee.

So much for being "awarded" a star just because you're famous.

http://tinyurl.com/olaj5u3

16. They have never removed a star from the Walk of Fame
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jan 2017

Although there are people whose subsequent actions (or discovery of previous actions) would seem to make it necessary. Nope. Once the star is there, it's there. http://tinyurl.com/zlq5w7q

re: Scott Baio. I think he's more of a black hole than a star. Basically, he sucks.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
10. I just noticed that aside from not pouting, the lady has a stronger chin than the boy in a mansuit
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:20 AM
Jan 2017

Interesting

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
11. You're right!
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:31 AM
Jan 2017

I never noticed that before.

The pout is ridiculous. The political cartoons with his lips jutting way out aren't too exaggerated!

His early life pics don't seem that way. Did his face finally get stuck, like some mothers warn their kids might happen someday if they keep a certain facial expression?

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
13. His face got stuck. Also, he really has a weak chin. I've noticed in his sons...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:00 AM
Jan 2017

...that Uday has the weak chin and Qusay is practicing the mouth but hasn't perfected it yet.

That thing with mothers being absolutely right -- I first noticed it with Dick Cheney, of all people. By the time I took note of him during Dubya's admin, his sneer was dominant and permanent. So it was a bit of a shock to see photos of him and the rest from Nixon's administration -- Cheney did not look like the same man at all; he was reasonably handsome in his youth and I guess he had to practice in front of a mirror every day to get that sneer to stick.

Same thing with Red Don and Qusay. Practice, practice, practice.

Cockroaches.

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
17. This is his high school portrait:
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jan 2017


One has to ask: when did the evil happen? When did he go from this bright-eyed, smiling kid to the monster who ran GWB's insanely militaristic White House?

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
19. She is Not the Only One
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jan 2017

Meryl Streep did not uncover some secret way to get under Donald Trump's skin. This does not have very much to do with his desire to be accepted by Hollywood. It has more to do with his desire to be liked and applauded. Anyone can do this to Trump. He does the same thing just about every time Saturday Night Live does a skit about him. If someone says something negative about his hair, he lashes out at that person. I once saw a blurb about how Donald Trump lashed out at a twitter user with less 100 followers. The person who was talking about Trump and the twitter user was saying he did not understand why Trump chose to lash out at a person who had less than 100 followers and that Trump's attacking the twitter user actually gave the person and the tweet far more attention than it would have gotten on its own merit.

So, the exchange between Meryl Streep and Donald Trump is nothing new. It has been happening for years. If you want Trump to angrily respond to you, put out a negative statement about him. If you want Trump to respond positively to you, put out a positive statement about him.

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