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Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 07:18 PM Apr 2017

HUGE: Federal judge orders Interstate Crosscheck architect Kobach to share docs from meeting w Trump

A little background before the main article:
Kris Kobach, KS Secretary of State, advisor to Trump on immigration during the campaign and member of Trump’s transition team, is the architect of Interstate Crosscheck, the software program used to purge millions from voter registration databases on the grounds that it is keeping people from voting twice. Crosscheck is now being used by 30 states.

https://thevotingnews.com/tag/interstate-crosscheck/

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890

…”top-level Trump staffers have pointed to the Kansas official as the source behind the president’s unsubstantiated claim that millions of illegal voters enabled Democrat Hillary Clinton to win the popular vote.” (See link to article below)

Now for the main article:
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article145076069.html#storylink=cpy

Federal judge orders Kobach to share documents from his meeting with Trump
Kansas City Star
Bryan Lowry
April 17, 2017

In November 2016, the top election official in Kansas claimed that millions voted illegally in 2016, but can't point to hard evidence to support that.

A federal magistrate judge has ordered Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach to disclose documents outlining a strategic plan he presented to then-President-elect Donald Trump in November, a decision that could have ramifications from Topeka to Washington.

Kobach, who served on Trump’s transition team, was photographed in November holding a stack of papers labeled as a strategic plan for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. That plan, as revealed by the photograph, included the recommendations that the U.S. block all refugees from Syria and engage in “extreme vetting” of immigrants from countries considered high-risk.
It also contained a reference to voter rolls, which was partially obscured by Kobach’s hand in the photograph.

The American Civil Liberties Union sought the documents’ disclosure as part of an ongoing lawsuit over a Kansas law that requires voters to provide proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate or passport, when they register to vote. The ACLU argued that if Kobach lobbied Trump on changes to the National Voter Registration Act, commonly called the motor voter law, then the documents may contain material relevant to the case.

Judge James O’Hara in Kansas City, Kan., ordered Kobach to share the documents Monday after privately reviewing them earlier in the month. The judge will allow Kobach to redact portions of the documents unrelated to the case, but he wholly rejected Kobach’s argument that the papers were protected by Trump’s executive privilege. He also questioned whether Kobach had met his duty of candor as an attorney in his efforts to prevent the ACLU from reviewing the papers.

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Trump met with Kobach multiple times before his inauguration, and top-level Trump staffers have pointed to the Kansas official as the source behind the president’s unsubstantiated claim that millions of illegal voters enabled Democrat Hillary Clinton to win the popular vote.


O’Hara noted that Kobach is not a member of the executive branch able “to assert the privilege himself.” Kobach had previously been rumored as a candidate for positions in Homeland Security and the Justice Department, but so far nothing has come to fruition.

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The motor voter law allows U.S. citizens to register to vote when they go to the DMV to obtain a driver’s license. The federal case concerns whether Kobach has the authority to require DMV voters to provide proof of citizenship under this law. The ACLU has argued that if Kobach sought changes to the law, it would amount to an admission that the current federal law does not grant him this authority.

Rick Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California, Irvine School of Law, said in an email that there “is considerable interest in what Secretary Kobach has proposed about changing the motor voter law, because we know the President has listened to his views on voter fraud in the past.”

Dale Ho, the executive director of the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project, said in an email that the judge’s order, which found that Kobach “has engaged in ‘word-play meant to present a materially inaccurate picture of the documents,’ speaks for itself.”

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Ho of the ACLU noted that the court “suggested that Secretary Kobach violated his ‘duty of candor’ and his ‘duty not to assert frivolous arguments,’ which should come as no surprise to anyone who has followed his exaggerations about a supposed epidemic of non-citizen voting.”

Kobach’s office announced last week its first conviction of a noncitizen voter since he became the only secretary of state in the nation with prosecutorial power. The defendant in the case was charged with voting illegally before he became a citizen.

State Rep. John Carmichael, a Wichita Democrat who has sought to strip Kobach of his prosecutorial power, said Kobach’s “treading on the edge of unethical conduct” should serve as “one more strike against the secretary” as lawmakers weigh whether to preserve his expanded power.

“It should come as no surprise to anyone that the federal court has lost patience with Mr. Kobach,” Carmichael said.

Jonathan Shorman of The Wichita Eagle and Anita Kumar of McClatchy’s Washington Bureau contributed to this report.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article145076069.html

I ran across this article in The Voting News by Verified Voting. Anyone interested in voting/election issues can sign up for their newsletter. They are at the forefront of working for clean elections:

https://thevotingnews.com/federal-judge-orders-kobach-to-share-documents-from-his-meeting-with-trump-the-kansas-city-star/

Incidentally, Kobach is also in favor of a Muslim registry and Mexican border wall and was instrumental in crafting the R party platform.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/kris-kobach-donald-trump-attorney-general-kansas-secretary-of-state-immigration-position-law-arizona-alabama-bill-lawsuit-voter-id/



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HUGE: Federal judge orders Interstate Crosscheck architect Kobach to share docs from meeting w Trump (Original Post) Amaryllis Apr 2017 OP
Kobach is a total loon. And Twitler(R) thinks rainbows fly out of his ass. Squinch Apr 2017 #1
This turd also helped Arizona write its "papers please" POS-law. lastlib Apr 2017 #16
This could be bigly. I wonder how much info from the docs will be missing. Doodley Apr 2017 #2
I thought the same thing. Wouldn't they purge incriminating info? YOHABLO Apr 2017 #8
Will CNN And MSNBC Finally Really Expose CrossCheck? colsohlibgal Apr 2017 #3
I saw Palast interviewed on MSNBC shortly after the election....don't remember which show but Amaryllis Apr 2017 #4
Palast has been on Thom Hartmann's show a lot and wrote Ilsa Apr 2017 #10
Yes, and there is a documentary movie about his work, but he rarely gets any mention in MSM. Amaryllis Apr 2017 #14
Exciting development. Great read, Amaryllis. JudyM Apr 2017 #5
OMG. I hadn't heard of this before. Is this how they managed some of the wins? Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #6
You are using sarcasm here aren't you? No DUer should not know about Cross Check. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #7
I don't think that was sarcasm. Not everyone knows about it. Honeycombe knows now, and that's what Amaryllis Apr 2017 #12
I followed the election very closely. A political junkie. No, I did not know. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #19
THis is totally how they did part of it. THere are a lot of ways. What they are thinking is how Amaryllis Apr 2017 #9
Yup. 30 states, sharing voter rolls. duplicate names (if likely Dem) are stricken. Crash2Parties Apr 2017 #11
Thanks for the stats. I hadn't seen them broken down like that; just knew there were more Amaryllis Apr 2017 #13
those numbers are damning.... dhill926 Apr 2017 #15
Thanks for stats. Wow! VigilantG Apr 2017 #17
Yes, heard of this and this is great news, good news for DEMOCRACY! Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #18
Judge James OHara needs to avoid small planes, and hire security for a while. Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #20
KNR nt fun n serious Apr 2017 #21

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
3. Will CNN And MSNBC Finally Really Expose CrossCheck?
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:07 PM
Apr 2017

That this has not been covered by the MSM is suspicious.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
4. I saw Palast interviewed on MSNBC shortly after the election....don't remember which show but
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:11 PM
Apr 2017

I do remember being shocked that they were covering it.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
10. Palast has been on Thom Hartmann's show a lot and wrote
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:23 PM
Apr 2017
The Best Democracy Money Can Buy among other books.

He's talked about the theft of this last election with Kobach doing damage as well as russian hackers.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
14. Yes, and there is a documentary movie about his work, but he rarely gets any mention in MSM.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:32 PM
Apr 2017

Thom Hartmann has been all over the stolen election issue at least since 2000.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. OMG. I hadn't heard of this before. Is this how they managed some of the wins?
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:09 PM
Apr 2017

By purging voter rolls, denying citizens the right to vote?

What are they thinking? What's wrong with them?

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
12. I don't think that was sarcasm. Not everyone knows about it. Honeycombe knows now, and that's what
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:27 PM
Apr 2017

is important. I have been following the election theft issue since 2004...but you rarely see anything in MSM about it and certainly the Dem leadership has been slow to recognize it for the problem it is. So unless you read the threads about it on DU or knwo where to look in places like Truthout, you could miss it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. I followed the election very closely. A political junkie. No, I did not know.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:52 PM
Apr 2017

I am not familiar with all the things done in all the states, however.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
9. THis is totally how they did part of it. THere are a lot of ways. What they are thinking is how
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:22 PM
Apr 2017

to win an election at any cost. Voter fraud is a R myth created to justify voter suppression so Rs can commit ELECTION fraud in the form of purging voter reg databases, rigid voter ID laws, and many other dirty tricks.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
11. Yup. 30 states, sharing voter rolls. duplicate names (if likely Dem) are stricken.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:24 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:47 PM - Edit history (1)

...even if they have different middle names, ages, etc.

Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list : 449,922

Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list : 270,824

Trump victory margin in N.Carolina: 177,008
N.Carolina Crosscheck purge list : 589,292

White people: 8% under-represented in Crosscheck lists
Black people: 45% over-represented
Hispanic people: 24% over-represented
Asian people: 31% over-represented

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
13. Thanks for the stats. I hadn't seen them broken down like that; just knew there were more
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:29 PM
Apr 2017

than enough purged to swing the election.

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
20. Judge James OHara needs to avoid small planes, and hire security for a while.
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:45 PM
Apr 2017

These maniacal racist wingers will stop at nothing, respect no one whom they see as a problem.

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