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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 06:28 PM Jun 2017

Before the Gunfire in Virginia, a Volatile Home Life in Illinois

BELLEVILLE, Ill. — Signs of a deeply disturbed family life kept surfacing from the well-kept house with the pale sun awning and the pretty flowerpots off a gravel road here.

One of James T. Hodgkinson’s foster daughters killed herself in a gruesome fashion: by dousing herself with gasoline and setting herself on fire. Another described herself as “more of a hindrance than a daughter.” And when Mr. Hodgkinson dragged his grandniece by her hair and tried to choke her, the police were called in, and he was charged with battery. In previously sealed court papers obtained by the local newspaper, she described him as an abusive alcoholic who hit her repeatedly.

Elsewhere in America, people learned this past week who Mr. Hodgkinson was: the seemingly deranged gunman who, fueled by leftist rage, opened fire on a congressional baseball practice in Alexandria, Va., grievously wounding Representative Steve Scalise of Louisiana, the Republican whip, and three other people. He was carrying a list with the names of at least three Republican lawmakers and had pictures of the ballpark on his cellphone, law enforcement officials said on Friday.

But here in Belleville, a quaint little city where flags fly on Main Street and the movie theater marquee is set off in lights, Mr. Hodgkinson, 66, who was killed when Capitol Police officers returned his fire, was known to some friends and neighbors as a volatile figure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/us/virginia-shooting-james-hodgkinson-illinois.html
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Before the Gunfire in Virginia, a Volatile Home Life in Illinois (Original Post) SecularMotion Jun 2017 OP
And with that background he bought weapons SHRED Jun 2017 #1
Republican policy allowed him to Warpy Jun 2017 #2
He has no official history. Igel Jun 2017 #7
because he had the cash. rogue emissary Jun 2017 #4
NBC news just reported that he was a Bernie Supporter. dubyadiprecession Jun 2017 #3
To be accurate. rogue emissary Jun 2017 #5
Good article. dalton99a Jun 2017 #6
typical armed asshole. pansypoo53219 Jun 2017 #8
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Jun 2017 #9

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
2. Republican policy allowed him to
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 06:43 PM
Jun 2017

Any sicko with a long history of violence toward women can get their gunz.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
7. He has no official history.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:56 PM
Jun 2017

The charges in 2006 were dropped.

If we look at any allegation as grounds for official action, then in short order anybody with people that dislike them sufficiently will be barred from all kinds of things. Not for what they did, not for what they were proven to have done, but for what it was claimed they did.

The people involved in 2006, or the DA, decided that case wasn't worth prosecuting.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
4. because he had the cash.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 06:58 PM
Jun 2017

I was going to say because he's an American, but they don't even want to stop terrorist from getting weapons.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
9. People Control, Not Gun Control
Sun Jun 18, 2017, 04:41 AM
Jun 2017

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
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