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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:36 AM Aug 2017

Trump could be out of office within a year but the USs problems would be just beginning

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/07/trump-out-in-year-usa-problems-just-beginning-paul-mason

Trump could be out of office within a year – but the US’s problems would be just beginning

Paul Mason

Monday 7 August 2017 12.21 EDT

A brief list of the “known unknowns” suggests Donald Trump’s presidency will not survive 12 months. We know that a grand jury has been sitting for weeks, with the power of subpoena, to consider evidence of Kremlin involvement in the Trump campaign. We know that Donald Jr received an email from an intermediary offering a meeting as part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump”, and that, when this became public, the president personally dictated a false account of that meeting.
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The scenario being touted in Democrat circles is that Trump tries and fails to sack Mueller, one or more suspects gets immunity and the beans are spilled. Trump then either resigns or is impeached. Mike Pence becomes president. Only then do we get to know what the rightwing billionaires behind the project really want. Because Trump was never their first pick: for the first six months of his campaign, the main elite donor to the Trump campaign was Donald J Trump himself. It was only when the religious conservative Ted Cruz failed to ignite the masses that ultra-rightwing business money switched to Trump.

Even then the Koch brothers, who have funded rightwing pressure groups to the tune of $400m (£307m), kept their distance until their ally Pence was installed as Trump’s running mate. If Pence becomes president it will be the true moment of revelation. All the 3am garbage tweeted by Trump, all the waffle that comes out of his mouth at rallies, will be seen as the surrealist prologue to the main event. But what is the main event?

In fact, there are two distinct but overlapping rightwing projects in the US. One, most clearly associated with the Koch brothers, is best described by its adopted euphemism: “income defence”. It sees every dollar of the US’s $19tn debt as a future claim on the profits of private enterprise; it wants low taxation and – as Trump backer Robert Mercer is once reported to have said – a state “shrunken down to the size of a pinhead”. Above all, it wants the removal of regulations on big business, including the minimum wage, which denies the poorest people in America the “opportunity for earned success”, in the words of the Kochs’ top strategist.
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The other side of far-right ideology, by contrast, wants a repressive state, imposed conservative social norms and – if necessary – an eviscerated constitution to achieve it. If we analyse Trump through his actions, rather than his garbled words, it is political illiberalism that has won out during the first seven months of his presidency. When a judge blocked his Muslim immigration ban, he attacked the judiciary’s constitutional role. When the press revealed malfeasance, he labelled them “enemies of the American people”. When James Comey refused Trump’s appeals for “loyalty”, he was sacked.

Before Christmas, it is likely the US ultra-right elite will be faced with a choice: stick with Trump, corralled behind a wall of former generals and hamstrung by a potential impeachment. Or switch to the plan as it was in early 2016 – a socially conservative, libertarian presidency headed by Pence.
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Trump could be out of office within a year but the USs problems would be just beginning (Original Post) nitpicker Aug 2017 OP
Kick. dalton99a Aug 2017 #1
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2017 #2
It all depends on whether Pence is implicated along with the rest of the campaign. Nitram Aug 2017 #3
The kock brothers disalitervisum Aug 2017 #4
a modest proposal on taxes: figure out who lobbied for & profited from tax cuts on rich... yurbud Aug 2017 #5

Nitram

(22,781 posts)
3. It all depends on whether Pence is implicated along with the rest of the campaign.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 09:50 AM
Aug 2017

Odds are that he will be. It has already come out that Pence new Flynn was lying about contacts with Russians.

 

disalitervisum

(470 posts)
4. The kock brothers
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:16 PM
Aug 2017

They are more disgusting than trump, if that's possible. Everyone should read "Dark Money" by Jane Mayer, if you want to get some understanding of why and how politics in America has been turned into the kocks' personal spittoon.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
5. a modest proposal on taxes: figure out who lobbied for & profited from tax cuts on rich...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:52 PM
Aug 2017

then tax the shit out of them henceforth.

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