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DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 04:03 PM Jan 2018

As a privacy-dependent ANIMAL, I find this distressing

55 Democrats joined even more Republicans and voted to extend NSA surveillance power – a truly paranoid hold-over from 9/11 that has pushed our country into the current zeitgeist. Here's NBC News:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna836836

Democrats have been all over the airwaves recently accusing Donald Trump of abusing the Justice Department to go after his political enemies —most notably his former opponent Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation, which the Department of Justice is reportedly currently investigating based on allegation made during the 2016 presidential campaign. So you’d think they would oppose handing Donald Trump any more power with which he could potentially use against all sorts of Americans who attract negative attention from his administration.

Yet, with the help of some Democrats, the House of Representatives voted today — and the Senate will do so sometime in the next week — to extend a controversial NSA surveillance power that potentially affects millions of Americans’ privacy rights.


It's also reported in the Times:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/fisa-surveillance-congress-trump.html

And CNN:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/12/politics/fisa-surveillance-weird-politics/index.html

This issue transcends partisan politics and should be given as much space in our daily dose of dialogue as Trump's stupid tweets or the latest cute cats. We are still victims of Osama Bin Laden if we continue to inflict so much destruction on our freedoms. This is a Democrat speaking. I want my country back!

The fact that Pelosi and other Democratic leaders supported the continuation of FISA suggests that they are not tuned into the growing progressive wave which is going to change a lot of things in November.

Get ready to vote, and vote with your eyes wide open.

Peace,
Democracy Mouse
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As a privacy-dependent ANIMAL, I find this distressing (Original Post) DemocracyMouse Jan 2018 OP
One reason I won't have an Alexa, an Echo, or whatever other "listening devices" they have out there MiniMe Jan 2018 #1
Wow, good point! They're like those kids toys that monitored children DemocracyMouse Jan 2018 #2
Hey, the privacy bros are the ones who screamed at me for two solid years Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #3

MiniMe

(21,706 posts)
1. One reason I won't have an Alexa, an Echo, or whatever other "listening devices" they have out there
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jan 2018

I guess I just a paranoid old biddy, but I hate the idea of those devices. I don't post my life on facebook either. I am shocked at some of the personal stuff people share on facebook.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
3. Hey, the privacy bros are the ones who screamed at me for two solid years
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:54 PM
Jan 2018

that Hillary was the worst candidate ever and it would be nonstop wars, drones, spying and speeches to Goldman Sachs...

They wanted Trump, they got Trump, and now they need to chew on it...

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