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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 05:11 PM Jan 2018

@CustomsBorder got on a Greyhound bus yesterday and asked every passenger for their papers

What country is this?



.@CustomsBorder got on a Greyhound bus yesterday at 4:30pm in Fort Lauderdale and asked every passenger for their papers and to prove citizenship. Proof of citizenship is NOT required to ride a bus! For more information about your rights, call our hotline👉 1-888-600-5762

9:44 AM - 20 Jan 2018



Captan a Inmigración pidiendo ‘papeles’ en un bus Greyhound en Florida (VIDEO)
Redacción MundoHispánico
Posted 5 horas ago

Un video grabado por un pasajero de un autobús Greyhound muestra a un agente de Aduanas y Protección de Fronteras de EE.UU (CBP) pidiendo documentos a una mujer para probar si tenía estatus legal en el país.

El video fue publicado por la organización activista Coalición de Inmigrantes de Florida, que informó a su vez que la parada ocurrió el viernes a las 4:30 de la tarde, hora local, en Fort Lauderdale.
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@CustomsBorder got on a Greyhound bus yesterday and asked every passenger for their papers (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2018 OP
We encountered that in Slovakia...... JohnnyLib2 Jan 2018 #1
I ran into it crossing the Czech-Slovak border. Igel Jan 2018 #6
"Trailways Bus," Paul Simon (1997) -- set in 1977 . . . Journeyman Jan 2018 #2
They ask every single car driving in the US BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #3
Within a specfied distance from the border CanonRay Jan 2018 #5
Nazi Germany demosincebirth Jan 2018 #4
No. There German citizens were taken away and murdered. Hortensis Jan 2018 #8
Didn't see what others may have seen packman Jan 2018 #7
ACLU's Know Your Rights Hortensis Jan 2018 #9
"of course telling authoritarians to go to hell is a very bad idea -" packman Jan 2018 #10
:) Hortensis Jan 2018 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #12

Igel

(35,300 posts)
6. I ran into it crossing the Czech-Slovak border.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 07:24 PM
Jan 2018

I shrugged. It wasn't like I was really doing all that convincing a job of passing as a Czech or Slovak, what with my accent.

The guy saw my passport and just waved, saying dismissively, "American." Not in English, of course. Probably assumed that it would be a hassle dealing with language issues. Or something.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
2. "Trailways Bus," Paul Simon (1997) -- set in 1977 . . .
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 05:49 PM
Jan 2018


A passenger traveling quietly conceals himself
With a magazine and a sleepless pillow
Over the crest of the mountains the moon
Begins its climb
And he wakes to find he's in rolling farm land
The farmer sleeps against his wife
He wonders what their life must be

A trailways bus is heading south into
Washington, D.C.
A mother and child, the baby maybe two
Months old
Prepare themselves for sleep and feeding
The shadow of the capitol dome
Slides across his face
And his heart is racing with the urge to
Freedom

The father motionless as stone
A shepherd resting with his flock
The trailways bus is turning west
Dallas via Little Rock

Oh my darling darling Sal
The desert moon is my witness
I've no money to come east
But I know you'll soon be here

We pull into downtown Dallas by the
Sight of the grassy knoll
Where the leader fell and a town was broken
Away from the feel and flow of life for so many years
He hears music playing and Spanish spoken

The border patrol outside of Tucson boarded the bus
Any aliens here you better check with us
How about you son you like you've got
Spanish blood
Do you habla inglese? Am I understood?

Yes I am an alien from Mars
I come to earth from outer space
And if I traveled my whole life
You guys would still be on my case
You guys would still be on my case

But he can't leave his fears behind
He recalls each fatal thrust
The screams are carried by the wind
Phantom figures in the dust
Phantom figures in the dust
Phantom figures in the dust

Songwriters: DEREK WALCOTT, PAUL SIMON
© Universal Music Publishing Group
For non-commercial use only.
Data From: LyricFind

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
3. They ask every single car driving in the US
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jan 2018

at a border check point near Tecate, Mexico in San Diego County what country they are from verbally. They have done this for at least 15 years (since I have taken that route). At the actual border crossing they ask for your passport, what you are bringing into the country from Mexico, and why you were visiting the country. They never ask for proof of citizenship like they did in FL in the car. I haven't been through there since the election though so that could have changed.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
5. Within a specfied distance from the border
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jan 2018

different rules apply, I believe it is 50 miles. They can ask you for more ID. I don't see how this is legal in Florida.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. No. There German citizens were taken away and murdered.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 07:26 AM
Jan 2018

The similarity, of course, is that we now know many Americans would vote Nazis into power here, hyperpartisanship causing most to refuse to believe what they were, of course.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
7. Didn't see what others may have seen
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jan 2018

It "Appears" they were focused in on that one woman and , after getting her bag, took her -apparently- off the bus. I know sure as hell if they asked for my papers, I would have told them to go to hell.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. ACLU's Know Your Rights
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 08:31 AM
Jan 2018
https://www.aclu.org/files/kyr/MKG17-KYR-PoliceImmigrationFBI-OnePager-English-v01.pdf

Authorities always have been able to board buses and question passengers. They can't block exits so that people feel they can't leave if they choose. Passengers can refuse to allow searches.

ICE has no mandate to detain citizens. Citizens need to inform them they are, but they're not required to believe. Only proof of citizenship would stop them from being able to legally detain us when citizenship alone is the concern.

Drivers licenses are proof only if issued by states that required proof of citizenship before issuing, as my state, Georgia, does.

And of course telling authoritarians to go to hell is a very bad idea. That's not exactly just a minority problem.
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
10. "of course telling authoritarians to go to hell is a very bad idea -"
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jan 2018

Yah, I know - but , still- times to be silent and times to speak out.

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