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reggieandlee

(778 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:10 AM Jul 2018

BTRTN: What Does Putin Have on Trump? Duh!

Born to Run the Numbers speculates on the substance of Trump's one-on-one with Putin in Helsinki:

http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2018/07/btrtn-what-does-putin-have-on-trump-duh.html

Excerpts: "What do you suppose they are going to talk about on Monday? One guess is that they Vladimir Putin will want to talk about is how to make sure Donald Trump gets re-elected. Why rent the President of the United States for four years when you can leverage that into an option to buy?

"Putin’s a shrewd guy. If he wants to make sure that Trump gets re-elected, the first sign would be to see if he throws Trump a bone in Helsinki. Maybe Putin suggests that they announce some grand agreement to do something about the endless mess in Syria. Maybe Putin offers to join Trump in shutting down Kim Jong-un. It could be a Munich-evoking assurance that Putin will initiate no other Crimea-like annexations in former U.S.S.R. states like Estonia. Perhaps it’s a vague communique promising a dialog on reducing nuclear arsenals. All Putin has to do is make sure that Donald Trump comes out of Helsinki with a win that he can crow about back home and which serves to validate Trump’s emphasis on establishing a positive working relationship with Putin. Donald Trump has a nauseating habit of walking away from every shit storm he creates with a resounding declaration of victory. In the case of this meeting, Putin would seem to have self-interest in helping Trump do so."

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BTRTN: What Does Putin Have on Trump? Duh! (Original Post) reggieandlee Jul 2018 OP
What he has.. AZ8theist Jul 2018 #1
Interesting to reconsider after the summit... reggieandlee Jul 2018 #2
Agreed AZ8theist Jul 2018 #3

AZ8theist

(5,410 posts)
1. What he has..
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jul 2018

Is he knows Dotard is a pathetic narcissistic IMBECILE. So fucking stupid he can be easily manipulated. (re: See Singapore)

Also, Dotard owes him and his idiot sons/company perhaps $$$BILLIONS in loans.

How can any human being with 2 brain cells to rub together think for a second a KGB Officer WON'T manipulate a childish moron any way he wants to??

reggieandlee

(778 posts)
2. Interesting to reconsider after the summit...
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 06:35 AM
Jul 2018

This was posted before the summit.
Now, after, there is a groundswell of speculation that Putin definitely has something on Trump.
And yet very few of the pundits sees to the obvious point made in this article: what Putin may well have on Trump is incontrovertible evidence of collusion.
if anyone on Trump's team was in contact with Russia, it is a certainty that Putin knows about.
Indeed, Trump may be terrified that Putin has more evidence of collusion that even Trump is aware of.
Putin knows more about how much collusion there was than Trump and Mueller combined.
And Putin's agents no doubt collected video and audio evidence of that collusion. Putin could bring Trump's presidency to an end in ten minutes.
There doesn't have to be anything else -- no financial issues, debt, anything.
All Donald Trump is trying to do now is avoid jail for him and anyone in his family.
If he is no longer president, he can't control that.
So he is simultaneously desperate to hold onto power, and desperate to please Putin so that Putin won't expose the collusion.
And that's what we are witnessing.

AZ8theist

(5,410 posts)
3. Agreed
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:21 PM
Jul 2018

But can we please stop calling it "collusion" (or if you prefer the Dotard spelling, "coluzion&quot

It's CONSPIRACY. Collusion is not a legal term, but CONSPIRACY and TREASON certainly are...

Putin, as is Dump, are both PATHOLOGICAL LIARS. Is most ridiculous claim in that presser was the mention of 500 CEOs visiting Russia and having NO IDEA who they were.

BULLSHIT X1000000000000000000000000000000.

You can bet your childrens lives that the FSB and the GRU knew EXACTLY who each and every one of those people were and have an extensive file on each. Maybe not kompromat, but they damn well have files.

This is a KGB Intelligence Officer we're talking about, not some imbecilic Republican House Commitee chairman who doesn't have a clue what's best for his country.

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