Businesses "Going Cashless" Is Discriminatory To Many w/o Credit; Action To Stop It.
"Why Going Cashless Is Discriminatory And What's Being Done To Stop It," The Guardian, July 15, 2018.
Not accepting cash excludes service to those without access to credit cards, but a new bill would make it illegal for restaurants to refuse paper money.
Mobile payments. Credit cards. Digital currencies. Going cashless seems to be a worldwide trend. In Belgium, it is illegal to buy real estate with cash. Some banks in Australia have eliminated cash from their branches. Sweden has seen its use of cash drop to less than 2% of all transactions, and the number could be heading even lower in the next few years.
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However, one city in the US is resisting that trend: Washington DC. In the nations capital cash is still king, and a new bill introduced this week wants to keep it that way. The Cashless Retailers Prohibition Act of 2018 would make it illegal for restaurants and retailers not to accept cash or charge a different price to customers depending on the type of payment they use. City councilmember David Grasso, and five other councilmembers who co-introduced the bill, are responding to the recent tide of retailers in their city and around the country like the salad chain Sweetgreen who are no longer accepting cash. These retailers, which mostly serve upscale customers, say that going cashless speeds up transactions, improves customer service and makes for more accurate accounting. They also argue that having less cash lying around also minimizes the risk of crime and contributes to a safer environment for both their customers and employees.
But to some, not accepting cash is discriminatory. A report last year by the Washington City Paper found that 27% of people in the US would have trouble using only a credit card to purchase products, and that the percentage in Washington DC is even higher. Im concerned with more and more restaurants, businesses and shops going cashless because youre systematically excluding a group of people who are already disadvantaged and disenfranchised, Linnea Lassiter, an analyst at the DC Fiscal Policy Institute, told the paper. And now they cant have access to this restaurant?
Which is exactly why Grasso and his fellow councilmembers introduced the bill. Banning the use of cash is a discriminatory practice that disproportionately impacts the 10% of DC residents who are unbanked, and an additional 25% of residents who are underbanked and may not have access to a credit card, he said in a statement on his website. In addition, this practice is discriminatory against youth, who are often unable to obtain a credit card, impacting many of our middle school and high school students.
By denying patrons the ability to use cash as a form of payment, businesses are effectively telling lower-income and young patrons that they are not welcome....
More, https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/15/cashless-ban-washington-act-discrimination
Related, https://chicago.suntimes.com/business/vote-postponed-on-measure-requiring-chicago-businesses-to-accept-cash/
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)they can dictate how I'll pay. Identity theft for a cup of tea and a crumpet....uh...no thanks.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Alright for people used to it and with access to credit cards.
More parking garages and other businesses are changing to machine payment by CC (No Cash), eliminating human workers. Maybe a 'Call Button' on the premises to find someone to assist, if the machine messes up or your card doesn't work. Toll Roads in metro areas are using machines for payment and "pre-paid passes," with maybe one 'Cash Lane'- If you can spot it in time. Better be prepared. The popular car service Uber also prefers cards I think..
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)We are a little ways from any REAL big cities. i think I'll miss most of that in my life time..Gratefully.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Thompson says. On a selfish level, its made my life a lot easier. It streamlines everything. [*The honesty is appreciated!]
- Washington CITY PAPER, "Casual Restaurants Are Going CashlessAnd Cutting Off Their Unbanked Customers," "Youre systematically excluding a group of people who are already disadvantaged & disenfranchised,"- June 29, 2018.
Georgetowns vegetarian taco restaurant Chaia is weighing a tough call that many of the regions fast-casual eateries will grapple with as an already swollen market becomes even more saturated with competition. Should it go cashless to streamline operations and reduce customer wait times? Or should it continue to accept cash in order to make its healthy food more accessible to all Washingtonians? The reason not to is there are folks that dont have a credit card and they cant eat, says Chaia co-owner Bettina Stern. I dont want to cut people out. Thats why we havent done it.
In D.C., 11.8 percent of all households are unbanked, meaning they dont have access to traditional savings or checking accounts.. And another 24.8 percent of District households are underbanked, bringing the total percentage of households who might have trouble swiping or inserting a card at a register to more than 36 percent. Compare that to 27.7 percent nationwide.
SWEETGREEN, the salad company has more than 60 stores across the country, is one of the largest chains to go cashless thus farmaking the controversial switch in March for its DC area locations..Sweetgreen and Jetties estimate that cash customers accounted for about 10 percent of their business..Even before we stopped taking cash, we saw the percentage of [cash] revenue drop from 40 percent to 10 percent in a span of a couple of years, Thompson says..They might come back. I hope they would come back. But unbanked customers wouldnt be able to come back.
- Sweetgreen, CASHLESS, 60+ stores nationwide.
Linnea Lassiter, an analyst at the D.C. Fiscal Policy Institute, says cashless policies make healthy food even less accessible for low-income Washingtonians..Im concerned with more and more restaurants, businesses, and shops going cashless because youre systematically excluding a group of people who are already disadvantaged and disenfranchised, Lassiter says. Lassiter believes that restaurants like Sweetgreen have calculated that their typical customer is not a low-income person of color who doesnt have access to a bank account. Theyll say, Were not in Ward 7 or 8, and our clientele is not low-income or African-American, she says. People of color commute and or live in areas where there are Sweetgreens.
Employment status, income, and race are the three biggest factors influencing whether someone has a bank account, but immigration status also plays a role because proper documentation is required to open an account. Language barriers are also a predictor. A final factor is geographic proximity to a banking branch. Like food deserts, bank deserts exist in D.C. too. And where there are no banks, predatory payday lenders set up shop, Lassiter says.
In D.C., we know nearly 15 percent of black residents are unemployed, she notes, adding that the median white household income here is $120,000 per year while the median black household income is $41,000 per year. And the disparity is worsening.
Recognizing how important it is to serve all diners, CAVAanother locally-based fast-casual chain with about 30 locations nationwidehasnt pulled the trigger. We believe exclusively accepting cashless payments is not in the best interest of our customers, says CEO Brett Schulman, whose Mediterranean chain has a team of data scientists who use technology to enhance customer experience. We pride ourselves on being an inclusive company. If youre trying to make high-quality, healthier food accessible to more people, you cant exclude the people who have the least access to it.
- CAVA Grill, *Accepts CASH*: 30 locations nationwide.
Pretty soon more fast-casual restaurants like Beefsteak, eatsa, Shouk, HipCityVeg, SKWR Kabobline, Little Sesame, &pizza, TaKorean, Buredo, Pow Pow, and District Taco will stare down the same decision, if they havent already. Because Surfside in Dupont Circle is open 24 hours a day, it was cashless from day one for that very reason. We have no problems down there with not taking cash, and its a very diverse crowd, Thompson says of Surfside. On a selfish level, its made my life a lot easier. It streamlines everything.
Sweetgreen founder Jonathan Neman told Business Insider that eliminating cash speeds service by 10 percent, but Lassiter finds fault with taking such drastic measures to shave off a few seconds. It goes back to that idea that people who make more moneyfrankly white residents, segments that have more privilegetheir time is more valuable than people with less privilege...
https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/food/young-hungry/article/20866190/casual-restaurants-are-going-cashlessand-cutting-off-their-unbanked-customers
bucolic_frolic
(43,138 posts)I will never go there. Never.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)However in establishments that choose to offer more options to pay I will offer more options to receive my 20% gratuity.
In all seriousness I only tip cash and I hand it directly to the server or pizza guy.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Mosby
(16,301 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 18, 2018, 03:42 AM - Edit history (2)
The article is misleading. Stating that "Not accepting cash excludes service to those without access to credit cards" is nonsense, one only needs a debit card to complete a transaction.
You can get a reloadable debit card at walmart, you don't need a bank account.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)They cost nothing, and carrying a debit card is safer than carrying cash.
We are becoming a nation that places the individual above all, demonizing business of any size as evil monsters. Business, however is of great value to us, providing the wages which we need to feed our families, and bringing to us the goods and services which we need to survive in today's world.
Of course, today's mantra is that they grudgingly provide the lowest possible wage which no one can live on and sell crappy goods at usurious prices. If we think they are so bad, we have the power to make them do better, by not buying from them, but obviously we don't use that power. Instead, we all carry iPhones and line up in the snow and sleet overnight in order to be the first to get the newest one when it is released.
gay texan
(2,442 posts)Stolen at a gas station using cash
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)I've never had my account number or pin stolen using it anywhere. I keep my eyes open and pay attention.
gay texan
(2,442 posts)Took me over a year to get it sorted out, had to hire an attorney, lots of time off work. I refuse to have a debit or credit card ever again...
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)So long as you never want to rent a car, fly on an airplane or stay in a hotel. Other than a hot sheet, pay by the hour hotel, that is.
gay texan
(2,442 posts)I pay for flights with PayPal, the major chain hotels I stay in dont have a problem with cash.
Mosby
(16,301 posts)And every time the bank (WF) gave us our money back in a couple days.
Tip - don't use third party ATMs.
gay texan
(2,442 posts)Mosby
(16,301 posts)gay texan
(2,442 posts)so yeah, i'm pretty gun shy about plastic
Mosby
(16,301 posts)A lot of the third party ATMs are owned by them, I had a small store for a while and was considering putting in an atm. I contacted a company and a straight up russian gangster showed up to tell me why I needed to install his atm. He literally had a Russian accent. He tried to bully me but it didn't work.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Virtually all of those reloadable debit cards at Walmart/Kroger/etc have a smorgasbord of fees attached to them. The monthly fees alone can suck $5 to $15 a month out of someone's balance. The only way to avoid these fees many time requires high direct deposits or $1000 + daily balances.
That's not even going into ridiculous swipe fees and ATM fees plus if you do try to save many of them carry "inactivity fees" if you don't swipe your card every so often.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:54 PM - Edit history (1)
at drugstores and seven-elevens have a $5.95 activation fee, whether you purchase one for $20 or $500 the maximum, and the cards are Not refillable. Quite a lot of merchants, online and in person accept these cards for payment, BUT many others do not, because the cards are NOT TIED TO A BANKING INSTITUTION.
And to be declined or rejected at a store counter, restaurant, online, or at a hotel is embarrassing and frustrating.
I know people who couldn't get a credit card, and have tight checking accts., (if any) who tried using these pre-paid cards. Similar to younger friends who we gave some to as gifts, the cards were declined by a few places, including a utility co. for a phone bill payment for the same reason- *not associated with a banking institution.
Why should people without credit cards be marginalized even more? CASH should be useable in many cases particularly when the power goes out from bad weather, in an emergency and for other reasons. In those cases a restaurant, convenience store and drugstore that takes CASH is a lifesaver. We know, have lived through it during a tornado, and a hurricane.
3Hotdogs
(12,374 posts)card company asking, Did you make a purchase in Brooklyn? Oakland, Ca.?
O.T.O.H., cashless would prevent hold-ups in those merchants.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)We don't care about the merchants. We care about the convenience of the individuals buying from the evil merchants.
Merchants being held up a few times is fine if it permits people to buy gas when they don't have credit cards.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,414 posts)JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)Or did they take cash?
Remember, the claim here is that refusing to take cash, that is credit only with no cash on the premises, is a bad thing.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,414 posts)My bad. DU is getting a lot of posters who say outrageous things without any thought of sarcasm, and they're beginning to look normal.
Thanks for writing.
Mosby
(16,301 posts)Which is why I support more reporting requirements for banks.
Working in retail mgmt I am in the bank almost every day, and at least a couple times a month I watch a person withdraw thousands of dollars in cash. The tellers know the score, the money is to pay people under the table.
If you deposit more than 10K or are making multiple large deposits just below the 10K mark the bank is required to file a suspicious activity report with the feds, but large cash withdrawals are fine.
I used to go to the cig room at the cosco business center, people would bring in 10s of thousands of dollars in cash to pay for smokes. They were cheating the state by collecting sales tax but not reporting it by using cash to keep the transactions off the books.
alwaysinasnit
(5,066 posts)The Visa card payment system is currently down across Europe. Users across the continent have reported problems during the day when attempting to make payments using their Visa cards.
A Visa spokesperson confirmed the outage but did not reveal any other details, such as its cause or its scale. Bank social media accounts also confirmed the outage and informed customers of the issue.
Users across the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Romania, and Hungary have confirmed problems with payments, but the problems are believed to affect all European countries.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Thanks for the post and news from Europe, that was a big!