A Warning From Europe: The Worst Is Yet to Come
Yikes
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/poland-polarization/568324/
This is not 1937. Nevertheless, a parallel transformation is taking place in my own time, in the Europe that I inhabit and in Poland, a country whose citizenship I have acquired. And it is taking place without the excuse of an economic crisis of the kind Europe suffered in the 1930s. Polands economy has been the most consistently successful in Europe over the past quarter century. Even after the global financial collapse in 2008, the country saw no recession. Whats more, the refugee wave that has hit other European countries has not been felt here at all. There are no migrant camps, and there is no Islamist terrorism, or terrorism of any kind.
More important, though the people I am writing about here, the nativist ideologues, are perhaps not all as successful as they would like to be (about which more in a minute), they are not poor and rural, they are not in any sense victims of the political transition, and they are not an impoverished underclass. On the contrary, they are educated, they speak foreign languages, and they travel abroadjust like Sebastians friends in the 1930s.
What has caused this transformation? Were some of our friends always closet authoritarians? Or have the people with whom we clinked glasses in the first minutes of the new millennium somehow changed over the subsequent two decades? My answer is a complicated one, because I think the explanation is universal. Given the right conditions, any society can turn against democracy. Indeed, if history is anything to go by, all societies eventually will.
Pachamama
(16,886 posts)It can happen here
mahina
(17,637 posts)Some can fight it. Thanks for shining some light.
Pachamama
(16,886 posts)....."For a long time, we have imagined that these questions were settledbut why should they ever be?"
I agree with you Mahina - it is like a Macro Stanford Prison Experiment.....
And yes, the capacity to become a monster is within each of us, some can fight it.
It is however frightening when you see your friends and neighbors and family not be able to and to "change" before your very eyes.
Somewhere there is an analogy with these Zombie themed movies....they are the person, but transformed to something unknown...
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)They were interviewing the lead antagonist and the end of the movie
Why did you do it?
Paraphrasing : they just let me, they all just let me do it
elleng
(130,834 posts)THE HAGUE In a city that symbolizes international peace and justice, the ambassador from Burundi has had a lonely job. As her government faces accusations of murder, rape and torture, she has made the unpopular argument that the International Criminal Court should butt out.
The ambassador, Vestine Nahimana, says the court is a politicized, unchecked intrusion on Burundis sovereignty. Its difficult, Ms. Nahimana said in an interview here. In a way, weve been isolated.
No longer. Her critiques echo those of warlords and despots whose arguments have long been dismissed by the West. But Burundis position got a powerful voice of support this week from President Trump, whose national security adviser, John R. Bolton, declared the international court ineffective, unaccountable, and indeed, outright dangerous, and threatened sanctions against the courts prosecutors and judges who pursued cases against Americans.
We can only rejoice that another country has seen the same wrong, Ms. Nahimana said. Perhaps this will be a message that the sovereignty of a country must be respected, in the U.S. and in other countries. Thats also what the White House asks.
For the Trump administration, Mr. Boltons speech was the latest example of disdain for global organizations and in this case taking the same side as strongmen and dictators. But for the International Criminal Court, a relatively young institution, the new White House policy of open hostility comes at a perilous time.'>>>
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/world/europe/icc-burundi-bolton.html?