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appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:48 PM Sep 2018

West Coast Cities Skirt Federal Judge's Ruling Against Criminalizing Homeless Camps

"West coast cities try to skirt judge’s ruling preventing them from criminalizing homeless camps." Cities are finding ways to work around a federal judge's ruling, keeping laws that punish people for being homeless. By Danielle McLean, Think Progress, Sept. 14, 2018.

Cities are largely ignoring a federal appeals court’s recent ruling that Boise, Idaho’s ban on people camping out in public spaces was illegal, and are doubling down on their own similar laws that push people who are homeless even further into distressed living situations.
The judge ruled that there was not enough shelter space throughout Boise that didn’t have religious requirements attached. People who are experiencing homelessness sleeping on public spaces when there is a lack of available shelter space was, as the court described, a “universal and unavoidable consequences of being human” and arresting them for doing so is a cruel and unusual punishment.

Major cities in the ninth circuit’s jurisdiction, including Seattle, Portland, Tacoma, and San Diego, all say their laws do not explicitly ban camping the same way Boise’s does and therefore are not impacted by the court’s rulings and have no plans to change or repeal them. But homeless-persons’ advocates and researchers, who have long battled such laws, say in light of the ruling, those cities that are enforcing or considering such bans should reconsider.
“If you have a practice like this, where you are arresting and prosecuting people for sleeping on the streets when you haven’t given them any other options, you can be liable for a lawsuit,” said Steve Berg, Vice President for programs and policy at the National Alliance to End Homelessness.

Cities and towns across the country have essentially criminalized homelessness by imposing local laws that outlaw sleeping in public. Yet many of those cities do not have enough beds at shelters to accommodate the number of people that live without homes in their community. And often times the beds that are available have restrictions related to religion, sobriety, gender, or even pets that are prohibitive and keep people out..

A group of people who were homeless sued Boise almost a decade ago over its ban. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled just last week in their favor. The court’s decision could impact similar laws in cities within its jurisdiction, which includes Alaska, Arizona, California, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington. The ruling found that a city cannot prosecute people for living in public if there are more people than available shelter beds (available beds cannot have barriers like religious mandates). Doing so would be considered a cruel and unusual punishment, in violation of the Eighth Amendment.- More.

https://thinkprogress.org/west-coast-cities-continue-criminalizing-homeless-camps-despite-appeals-court-ruling-8afe67f0f827/



- Tents and belongings of the homeless line a street in downtown Los Angeles, California on June 25, 2018, as a United Nations report on poverty and inequality says 185 million Americans are living in extreme poverty.

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West Coast Cities Skirt Federal Judge's Ruling Against Criminalizing Homeless Camps (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2018 OP
185 million Americans are living in extreme poverty: U.N. hedda_foil Sep 2018 #1
The situation is largely buried and a disgrace. Good for the appalachiablue Sep 2018 #2
Pretty sure that's a typo; should read "18.5 million". sl8 Sep 2018 #3

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
1. 185 million Americans are living in extreme poverty: U.N.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:55 PM
Sep 2018

They buried the horrifying lead. That's more than half of us.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
2. The situation is largely buried and a disgrace. Good for the
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:20 PM
Sep 2018

advocates working on this and other difficult issues, as noted in the article.

TP did a good job covering Alston's UN Report on serious inequality and poverty in the US, I posted several in this section.

When will the homelessness, poverty, lack of mental health services and affordable health care, climate change, gun culture and man-made ills ever be addressed. The list is huge and the damage is vast.

sl8

(13,748 posts)
3. Pretty sure that's a typo; should read "18.5 million".
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:58 AM
Sep 2018

From https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/25/trump-team-rebukes-u-n-saying-it-overestimates-extreme-poverty-in-america-by-18-million-people/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c6dbc57f682e

The U.N. says 18.5 million Americans are in ‘extreme poverty.’ Trump’s team says just 250,000 are.

By Jeff Stein
June 25

The Trump administration says the United Nations is overestimating the number of Americans in “extreme poverty” by about 18.25 million people, reflecting a stark disagreement about the extent of poverty in the nation and the resources needed to fight it.

In May, Philip G. Alston, special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights for the U.N., published a report saying 40 million Americans live in poverty and 18.5 million Americans live in extreme poverty.

But in a rebuke to that report on Friday, U.S. officials told the United Nations Human Rights Council there only appear to be approximately 250,000 Americans in extreme poverty, calling Alston's numbers “exaggerated.”

The rift highlights a long-running debate among academics over the most accurate way to describe poverty in America, one with enormous implications for U.S. policy-making and the nation's social safety net. It also sheds light on the ongoing feud between Trump and U.N. officials over Alston's report on American poverty, with U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley last week calling the report “politically motivated” and arguing it “is patently ridiculous for the U.N. to examine poverty in America.”
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