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Bfd

(1,406 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:25 PM Oct 2018

A ticking time bomb in China has global markets looking really shaky right now

A ticking time bomb in China has global markets looking really shaky right now

Oct. 9, 2018, 10:00 AM


Global markets are jittery in recent days as fears about growth in China take hold.
"The larger the stimulus used by China to offset the trade war impact, the bigger will its deficit likely be," Tao Wang, UBS's chief China economist, said in a report on Tuesday
Markets are also worried about the ongoing Italian debt crisis, and the rising price of oil.


Trouble is brewing in global markets. Look no further than China.

China's current account balance is down significantly from last year's 1.3% and will likely turn into a small deficit in 2019. If so that would be the first time in 24 years.
"The larger the stimulus used by China to offset the trade war impact, the bigger will its deficit likely be," UBS's Tao Wang, chief China economist, said in a report on Tuesday.

That may hurt confidence and hasten outflows, putting pressure on the nation's currency.
"Although CNY depreciation can partially offset trade war impact, a large depreciation will likely hurt domestic confidence, trigger panic outflows and risk financial stability," UBS said.

In the US stock market, Morgan Stanley says a bear market correction could arrive in 2019, sooner than markets currently expect.

After years of monetary stimulus and a short-term boost from the Trump administration’s tax cuts, more rate rises and lower bond prices will ultimately bring the US economy to a halt. But "before this occurs, it appears we will get a final spike higher," in yields, Morgan Stanley says.

The IMF lowered its outlook for the global economy, saying it will grow 3.7% this year, the same as in 2017 but down from the 3.9% it was forecasting for 2018 in July.

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https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/china-italy-oil-causing-stock-markets-to-fall-around-the-world-2018-10-1027601270

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saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
1. Zi is confident,
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:28 PM
Oct 2018

China holds the trump card. He will play him like the willing fool on the hill that he is.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
2. However he has to play it. And that is the big threat in the room.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:35 PM
Oct 2018

Zi will burn Trump & unfortunatly for the rest of us, we will now have no voice to object with.

We have one shot at the salvation of our country.
If America fails in this election, trying as hard as we all are for success, we are off to the abyss.

One month from now we will all know our future.
Frightening that it ever got this fkd up.

Damn.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
5. hope for change is still possible, imo
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:46 PM
Oct 2018

Regardless of the election outcome, Zi thinks China is in the "catbird seat". There is no reason for Zi to take any action. He can just remain silent and let rumpie burn US to the ground.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
6. Yes. Burn the US to the ground. It's the clean-up crew that should frighten us
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:50 PM
Oct 2018

Hint: it won't be anyone in the US that mops up afterwards

gordianot

(15,229 posts)
3. Imagine that a trade war started by the most incompetent American President in U.S. history...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:37 PM
Oct 2018

Would ever have dire consequences.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
4. Who would have predicted such a dire consequence for simply being pals with Putin
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:45 PM
Oct 2018

Wonder who will own the US if Trump's grand plan turns in the wrong direction?

Does China hold our debt? Could they call in that debt and own us?
If Russia stepped in to bail out their friend Trump from China, would Putin own us?

I feel like asking, who's gonna be our new dad.
Zi, Vlad or Trump.



gordianot

(15,229 posts)
7. Dad Fred is dead.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:51 PM
Oct 2018

There will be no assistance from Dad like when the Trump Taj Mahal crashed. Pennies at best on the dollar.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
8. Then we've narrowed it down to two. Zi or Vlad. Unless....
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:55 PM
Oct 2018

the Saudi's want in on the parting out of the wreck after Donald Dotard drove it off the cliff.

Fker

gordianot

(15,229 posts)
9. My guess is Saudi's and their glowing orb now that you bring it up.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 04:05 PM
Oct 2018

Remember Trump does always manage to cheat the suckers who invest in his schemes.

Christian Dominionist and Sharia Law followers have much in common and should get along well.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
10. That is a fact. The Dominionist & Sharia Law aspect puts Saudi in the lead
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 04:48 PM
Oct 2018

We have one day in November to stake a claim to the wreck, get it running & back on the road.

1 day



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