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Bfd

(1,406 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:49 PM Nov 2018

💙 Black caucus members back Pelosi for speaker over their former chair

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/11/15/black-caucus-pelosi-speaker-994469

Black caucus members back Pelosi for speaker over their former chair
Influential Democrats in the group aren’t willing to endorse Marcia Fudge.


By RACHAEL BADE, JOHN BRESNAHAN and NOLAN D. MCCASKILL 11/15/2018 07:05 PM EST

Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), the most powerful African-American in the House, has expressed support for Nancy Pelosi as speaker.

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But in interviews with eight CBC members about a potential Fudge bid for speaker, all but two members said they would back Pelosi over Fudge. Other CBC members on Thursday tweeted or put out statements of support for Pelosi, including Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), the most powerful African-American in the House and a close Fudge friend and ally.

"She knows that, she knows that, she knows I'm for Pelosi," Clyburn said of Fudge in a short interview in the Capitol.


"She’s a great leader, and I support her more than 100 percent," said Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a civil rights icon, of Pelosi.

Fudge, 66, has not formally declared for the position. She is part of a group of anti-Pelosi critics who don’t want the woman who has led the party for 16 years to be the speaker in the next Congress.

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Even several black women in the group eager to see an African-American female leading the party are sticking with Pelosi over Fudge.

Rep. Karen Bass tweeted that she was still with her fellow California Democrat on Thursday afternoon. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas also reaffirmed her loyalty to Pelosi to reporters, even as she had nothing but praise for Fudge.

“[Fudge] has been a real key leader in the conference,” she said, adding: “I have expressed my support for Nancy… But [Fudge] is a fantastic person but I just hope that we can work together.”

The situation clearly created some discomfort for some CBC members. Rep. Gwen Moore of Wisconsin would not say anything when asked about the matter Thursday, telling reporters she had to get to the caucus meeting right away. On Wednesday, Moore had said kind words about Pelosi.

Rep. Hakeem Jeffries of New York, who is currently running for caucus chair, wasn't so shy, declaring “I continue to support Leader Pelosi.”

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💙 Black caucus members back Pelosi for speaker over their former chair (Original Post) Bfd Nov 2018 OP
Glad to hear this. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #1
Me too... hlthe2b Nov 2018 #3
Interesting and good to hear. Means something, where the Black caucus stands. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #2
There You Have It Me. Nov 2018 #4
Well that explains a lot. Lieberman 🤔 Bfd Nov 2018 #5
Here's Info On Ryan I Posted On Another Thread Me. Nov 2018 #6
Well. Guess we know why he so desperatly wanted to get rid of Pelosi Bfd Nov 2018 #7
Right? Me. Nov 2018 #8
Moulton Me. Nov 2018 #9
Bit More Me. Nov 2018 #10
HaaaHaaa ha! And from Esquire no less. Wonder if Moultan realizes how many readers Esquire has. Bfd Nov 2018 #11
KnR Hekate Nov 2018 #12
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2018 #13
Great NEWS, Bfd! Cha Nov 2018 #14

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. There You Have It
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:57 PM
Nov 2018

I understand #FiveWhiteGuys are members of Lieberman's group. You know, the guy who lost the Dem primary so switched to being an Indie and pressured former colleagues for support and did an end run around Lamont who just won the election for Gov. of Conn.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
5. Well that explains a lot. Lieberman 🤔
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:11 PM
Nov 2018

Gee, perhaps the Black Caucaus should tell Seth of the 5 white guys, to stop using their members as a human heat shield since he hasn't got what it take to run against Pelosi himself.

Big tough one-of-5-white guys, hides his inadequate creds behind a female member of the Black Caucaus.
He chose to divide the caucaus for his own gamesmanship.




Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. Here's Info On Ryan I Posted On Another Thread
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:21 PM
Nov 2018

“Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan (Ohio) is going against party leaders and calling for a business friendly agenda ahead of the 2018-midterm elections.

Ryan, a fast-rising Democrat from industrial Ohio, is challenging Democrats to take a different approach to big business and work with corporate America to create jobs.

"We can’t just be the party of redistribution of wealth; we need to be the party of the creation of wealth in communities all over the country, not to just Silicon Valley, not just Wall Street, but all over."

https://thehill.com/video/lawmaker-interviews/348776-rising-dem-star-tim-ryan-splits-with-party-endorses-corporate-tax

Five reasons why Rep. Tim Ryan probably won't be our next president

“Ryan's latest congressional campaign finance report shows he spent more than $7,600 to buy an Iowa list from D'Alessandro's unsuccessful congressional campaign, and that he made numerous political trips in recent months to states including New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida and Texas. Ryan has been making the rounds of early presidential primary states ever since his unsuccessful 2016 challenge to House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi earned him national buzz as a potential Democratic party leader.

Although Ryan thinks he might be able to reverse his party's fortunes because of his appeal to the sort of blue-collar voters who backed Trump, there are reasons to be skeptical of Ryan's White House chances. Ohio has had plenty of presidents throughout its history, but nobody from the state has been elected president since 1920 – when Republican Sen. Warren Harding of Marion won. Harding died in office after having one of the nation's most scandal-plagued administrations.”
https://www.cleveland.com/expo/news/erry-2018/07/a4f7925c287758/five-reasons-why-rep-tim-ryan.html

“MORNING JOE: Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH) discusses how Democrats are recalibrating after the election, why Democrats need to meet with Trump, his advice to Nancy Pelosi and his political future. Ryan said Democrats have talked about blue-collared workers more in the last few weeks than in the past few years.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: What do you think about Democrats heading into Trump Tower to meet with the president-elect? Do you have an issue with that? Would you have an issue with that?

REP. TIM RYAN (D-OH): No, I think you've got to have these conversations. Look, he won. I mean, we can't sit here and act like we're just going to obstruct from the very beginning. He won. We have an obligation. And for my personal example, a lot of people voted for me and voted for Donald Trump; voted for Joe Manchin, voted for Donald Trump. Probably a lot more for Joe Manchin than Donald Trump than for me and Donald Trump. But having said that, we have an obligation to sit down and figure out what are the sweet spots that we can find that are going to help working-class people. We have an obligation to go and try to find out what that is. It doesn't mean that we have to make a deal right there, but let's start those conversations.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/12/15/dem_rep_tim_ryan_democrats_have_an_obligation_to_work_with_donald_trump.html

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
7. Well. Guess we know why he so desperatly wanted to get rid of Pelosi
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:41 PM
Nov 2018

"Trust him".
Oh sure, pulled the same con, like we were conned by Lieberman too.
#NeverTrustRyan

Pisses me off that he was so desperate to remove Pelosi, that he saw the CBC members as simply pawns, with no regard to the division it would cause them.


Asshole.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. Moulton
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:04 PM
Nov 2018

“Alas, it is my painful duty to report that the #FiveWhiteGuys are led by Seth Moulton, congresscritter from the Sixth Congressional District here in the Commonwealth (God save it!), and a man who has been farting higher than his own arse ever since he got elected in 2014. Moulton ran a strong campaign. He ousted an endangered incumbent who was all tangled in so much family corruption that a Republican pickup of that seat was a distinct possibility—or, at least, as distinct a possibility as was ever enjoyed by a Massachusetts Republican. Almost immediately, Moulton signed on to the challenge to Pelosi's leadership mustered up by the anti-charismatic Tim Ryan of Ohio. Almost immediately, and most spectacularly, Moulton began spending a lot of time in Iowa. This is a fellow who thinks a great deal of his own inherent political gifts.

Now, it seems, they've gotten the band back together again. The #FiveWhiteGuys are Moulton, Ryan, Ed Perlmutter of Colorado, Kurt Schrader of Oregon, and Bill Foster of Oregon, and Bill Foster of Illinois. The driving forces remain Moulton and Ryan, with the latter the putative leader. After an election in which the Democratic Party continues to elect a demographically and politically diverse collection of new House members, Ryan is still insisting that the party needs to "reach out" to angry white men in places like Ohio when, in fact, if the midterms proved anything, it is that the Democratic Party's future is in places like Arizona and Nevada, and even Georgia and Florida, while, except for Sherrod Brown, god bless him, Ohio is a lost cause. It was an outlier even in its own geographic area. There were Democratic—and progressive—victories in Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Illinois. Ohio and, yes, Iowa, were loss leaders.

This did not stop Moulton, who declines to challenge Pelosi himself, from spouting off in Roll Call that he and his group have the votes to block Pelosi's elevation to the speakership on the floor of the House—although, as has now become customary, Moulton declines to provide details on exactly how many members of the House have signed on here.

I am willing to concede—indeed, I am devoutly hoping—that this talk is all a bluff. The #FiveWhiteGuys seem to think they can scare Pelosi out of running, which is completely foolish. This is because, if it's not a bluff, and Moulton really has these votes, it almost certainly means that he's cut a deal with some Republicans to get them.”

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25093451/nancy-pelosi-speaker-democrat-opposition-tim-ryan-seth-moulton/

Me.

(35,454 posts)
10. Bit More
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:05 PM
Nov 2018

For those members, old and new, who oppose Pelosi from the left, the #FiveWhiteGuys are offering a sucker's bet. The #FiveWhiteGuys are of the school that believes that the Democratic Party's needs are best served winning back all those disgruntled folks at diners in the Mahoning Valley, a theory fairly well demolished last Tuesday. It is very unlikely that a Green New Deal or Medicare For All is high on their list of priorities. The only argument that the #FiveWhiteGuys have that might resonate with their new progressive colleagues is that Pelosi is old and has been in Congress for a long time. Period. That's not enough to dispense with the party's most effective legislative leader since Lyndon Johnson.


 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
11. HaaaHaaa ha! And from Esquire no less. Wonder if Moultan realizes how many readers Esquire has.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:12 PM
Nov 2018

Bye, The effects of broad public humiliation brought on by your own actions will subside oneday.

Maybe you could just stop being a tool for the Republicans for awhile.
That might help.
Good luck Mr Moultan

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