Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:19 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
John Wayne's racist and homophobic 1971 Playboy interview resurfaces: 'I Believe in White Supremacy'
John Wayne, who died at age 72 in 1979, made headlines on Tuesday, February 19, after his racist and homophobic remarks resurfaced via Twitter.
Wayne expressed his views after taking aim at African American political activist Angela Davis. “With a lot of blacks, there’s quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent and rightfully so,” he told the publication. “But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks.” He added: “I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgement to irresponsible people.” Wayne also claimed that “the academic community has developed certain tests that determine whether blacks are sufficiently equipped scholastically,” and “some blacks have tried to force the issue and enter college when they haven’t passed the tests and don’t have the requisite background.” Although he expressed his support for African American actors, he told Playboy that he casts them in what he deems to be “proper” roles. Wayne, who was known for his Western films, also slammed Native American Indians for their role in history. “I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.” Wayne also made insensitive remarks about LGBTQ representation in Hollywood, telling Playboy that he considers films like Midnight Cowboy and Easy Rider to be “perverted.” “Wouldn’t you say that the wonderful love of those two men in Midnight Cowboy, a story about two fags, qualifies?” At: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/john-waynes-racist-homophobic-playboy-interview-resurfaces/
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sandensea | Feb 2019 | OP |
SHRED | Feb 2019 | #1 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Feb 2019 | #2 | |
underpants | Feb 2019 | #8 | |
brush | Feb 2019 | #30 | |
The Blue Flower | Feb 2019 | #3 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #4 | |
underpants | Feb 2019 | #12 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #16 | |
Dustlawyer | Feb 2019 | #36 | |
underpants | Feb 2019 | #11 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #22 | |
argyl | Feb 2019 | #33 | |
still_one | Feb 2019 | #5 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #9 | |
still_one | Feb 2019 | #15 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #21 | |
3Hotdogs | Feb 2019 | #34 | |
still_one | Feb 2019 | #40 | |
Aristus | Feb 2019 | #45 | |
CaptainTruth | Feb 2019 | #6 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #10 | |
50 Shades Of Blue | Feb 2019 | #7 | |
Loki Liesmith | Feb 2019 | #13 | |
samnsara | Feb 2019 | #14 | |
AJT | Feb 2019 | #17 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #18 | |
demigoddess | Feb 2019 | #25 | |
brush | Feb 2019 | #31 | |
arenean | Feb 2019 | #38 | |
Mosby | Feb 2019 | #60 | |
lunasun | Feb 2019 | #19 | |
BlueStater | Feb 2019 | #20 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #24 | |
progressoid | Feb 2019 | #37 | |
BHDem53 | Feb 2019 | #23 | |
czarjak | Feb 2019 | #26 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #27 | |
pangaia | Feb 2019 | #28 | |
Dawson Leery | Feb 2019 | #29 | |
YOHABLO | Feb 2019 | #32 | |
MFM008 | Feb 2019 | #35 | |
marble falls | Feb 2019 | #42 | |
MosheFeingold | Feb 2019 | #39 | |
erpowers | Feb 2019 | #41 | |
marble falls | Feb 2019 | #43 | |
magicarpet | Feb 2019 | #46 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #47 | |
Blue_Tires | Feb 2019 | #44 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #48 | |
Zorro | Feb 2019 | #49 | |
dalton99a | Feb 2019 | #58 | |
MicaelS | Feb 2019 | #50 | |
BeckyDem | Feb 2019 | #51 | |
Hassler | Feb 2019 | #52 | |
dameatball | Feb 2019 | #53 | |
thucythucy | Feb 2019 | #54 | |
stopbush | Feb 2019 | #55 | |
sandensea | Feb 2019 | #56 | |
MicaelS | Feb 2019 | #59 | |
Power 2 the People | Feb 2019 | #57 |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:21 PM
SHRED (28,136 posts)
1. John Wayne was a rotten arrogant bastard
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:22 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (105,519 posts)
2. Even for the time, he was an awful right-winger.
Couldn't stand him then; still can't.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:38 PM
underpants (174,433 posts)
8. He was a John Bircher member
I saw an interview where he said everyone in Hollywood thought he was in a cult.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:12 PM
brush (46,022 posts)
30. Ditto. I've know of his views long before he died.
Something about those macho, cowboy types—see Clint Eastwood also.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:23 PM
The Blue Flower (5,070 posts)
3. The man never served his country
He built his tough-guy image on Hollywood roles and nothing more. I change the channel when his old movies are on because he was such a phony.
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Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #3)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:26 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
4. +1
To think many Trumpkins think he did serve in World War II.
He had almost demi-god status among Orange County Republicans when I lived there some years ago. ![]() |
Response to sandensea (Reply #4)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:43 PM
underpants (174,433 posts)
12. Tiny feet
I checked out his cowboy boot footprints at Grauman's years ago. Tiny tiny feet. My daughters feet are about the same size and she isn't even in high school.
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Response to underpants (Reply #12)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:52 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
16. No wonder he wobbled to and fro so much
Between his drinking habit and those tiny feet, he must have been falling on the furniture all the time.
Or poor Pilar. |
Response to underpants (Reply #12)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:39 AM
Dustlawyer (10,305 posts)
36. Freaky small. I was shocked they were so small.
Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #3)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:41 PM
underpants (174,433 posts)
11. He actually profited and started his career when a lot of stars were serving
Fonda
Stewart Gable Even Reagan (not really the same level of star) Hell Ted Williams quit playing baseball TWICE to serve. Wayne was there to fill in on roles and it mushroomed into a career. I heard an interview once where he said he caught a lot of crap about that especially from guys back from Vietnam. Not an excuse for him but just something I heard him say years ago. |
Response to underpants (Reply #11)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:02 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
22. The inspiration for Cap'n Bone Spurs no doubt.
And Ted Nugent, Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, and the rest of the draft-dodging chicken hawks.
Thanks for the great info. Had heard about that vaguely; but it's nice to get the skinny. |
Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #3)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:29 PM
argyl (3,064 posts)
33. I recall as a kid I had seen The Alamo with Wayne ....
and was just gobsmacked by the red, white, and blue Duke.
Not too long after I'd seen the movie we were visiting my Uncle Homer and I was going on about Wayne. Serious hero worship. My Uncle Homer who flew 25 missions over Germany in WW II, won the Distinguished Flying Cross and came home with the greatest respect for the Tuskegee Airmen and their courage and skill. And whose favorite cousin John's plane was shot down over Germany and whose body was never recovered. Said the only war Wayne ever fought was on a movie screen. And that really gave me something to think about. Johnn Wayne wasn't fit to tie my Uncle's bootlaces. And I read that Playboy interview when it came out. It turned my stomach. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:29 PM
still_one (86,865 posts)
5. No surprise, he was always known as an ultra right winger for a long time. In fact, a lot of
Hollywood was Republican up until the mid 50’s and 60’s before that started to change
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Response to still_one (Reply #5)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:40 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
9. Good point.
Wayne's appeal among the Archie Bunker types helped make John Birch-style politics more acceptable among people who might have otherwise feared "sounding too extreme."
He was a catalyst for much what we have to deal with now. |
Response to sandensea (Reply #9)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:50 PM
still_one (86,865 posts)
15. If you get a chance to see the movie Trumbo I highly recommend it. John Wayne, Hedda Hopper, and
others were not presented in a very complementary way
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Response to still_one (Reply #15)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:58 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
21. Absolutely.
I saw it last year; it was a real education.
And kudos to Trumbo for rubbing Wayne's faux military service record in his face. Reminds me of President Bone Spurs here. |
Response to still_one (Reply #15)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:02 AM
3Hotdogs (9,705 posts)
34. Its available on Netflix DVD
Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #34)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:34 AM
still_one (86,865 posts)
40. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Response to still_one (Reply #15)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:42 AM
Aristus (60,994 posts)
45. I saw it a couple of weeks ago.
Excellent film.
I have loathed John Wayne and everything he stood for for decades. My stepson, the sweetest, nicest guy in the world, adores John Wayne. I don't see any way of disabusing him of the notion that Marion was some kind of All-American patriot. He'll just have to find out for himself. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:30 PM
CaptainTruth (5,376 posts)
6. "I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgement...
...to irresponsible people.”
I guess if he were alive today he would oppose Trump & his entire cabinet? |
Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #6)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:41 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
10. "Weeeell, give the guy a chance won't ya!"
That's how he'd put probably defend Cheeto these days.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:34 PM
50 Shades Of Blue (8,093 posts)
7. Have always loathed him!
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:46 PM
Loki Liesmith (4,595 posts)
13. Why is this news?
It’s literally the exact opposite of new.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:49 PM
samnsara (16,799 posts)
14. when i was 14..or there-abouts....i remember my mom saying she would no longer...
...watch John Wayne because she found out he was a Republican. She LOVED JW!....my dad was also a repug. We had an interesting childhood.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:53 PM
AJT (5,240 posts)
17. It made me sad to find out Jimmy Stewart was a right winger too....
Response to AJT (Reply #17)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:56 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
18. True.
But my guess is that Stewart was of the less ideological, cut-my-taxes brand of Republican.
What most in today's GOP would call a RINO these days. |
Response to AJT (Reply #17)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:34 PM
demigoddess (6,480 posts)
25. same on Wayne, but there may have been an actual reason for his military deferment.
He was a stunt man before he became an actor. Jumping and falling off of horses not to mention riding them must have turned his back into a wreck. Read about the men who fought and died with Custer. Their skeletons showed huge damage to their spines. And they were all about age 20. Wayne was older than that, late 30s I believe. So his deferment may have been authentic.
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Response to AJT (Reply #17)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:21 PM
brush (46,022 posts)
31. Oooh, I didn't know that. I'm glad one of my favorites, Jsames Garner was a Dem..
He met his wife at an Adlai Stevenson rally and marched in Washington protest marches with Dr. King.
Link to tweet /photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E490831049077690368&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fmorning-mix%2Fwp%2F2014%2F07%2F21%2Fjames-garners-legacy-a-commitment-to-civil-rights-and-political-activism%2F |
Response to AJT (Reply #17)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:41 AM
arenean (456 posts)
38. Jimmy Stewart
Jimmy Stewart was nothing like John Wayne though - he was more of an old school republican.
He was best friends with Henry Fonda, one of the most liberal actors of his generation. They just kept away from talking politics. |
Response to arenean (Reply #38)
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:08 PM
Mosby (14,144 posts)
60. yeah, after fonda kicked his ass.
They agreed to not talk politics.
Stewart wasn't a RINO, he supported Goldwater, Reagan and Mcarthyism. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:57 PM
lunasun (21,646 posts)
19. His real name was Marion . I like that one of his lasting legacies is an urban myth about his colon
What current racists do you suspect will be rumored to be full of old poo when they die?
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:57 PM
BlueStater (7,596 posts)
20. There's rumors that he was gay.
So he was possibly a self-hating homosexual.
![]() Also, weird how he cited Midnight Cowboy as a film that he had disdain for. That movie started Jon Voight, who we all know later became a massive Puke himself. |
Response to BlueStater (Reply #20)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:08 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
24. Say it ain't so!
In all seriousness, I had heard those about Reagan when I lived in L.A. (whom, so they say, was bisexual and was fond of taking boy toys to his Lake Tahoe ranch on some weekends - even as governor).
Jack Kemp, so I was told, got his start in politics during those Lake Tahoe stays. Never about the Duke - though it's certainly possible he was bi like Reagan (they say) was. Of course, I can't claim to know all these Hollywood down-low stories. Here's to the day none of those things mattered anymore. |
Response to BlueStater (Reply #20)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:55 AM
progressoid (47,634 posts)
37. From the movie Repo Man...
LANGUAGE WARNING:
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:06 PM
BHDem53 (1,026 posts)
23. He is at the top of my list of
unwatchable actors along with raygun, heston and eastwood.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:52 PM
czarjak (8,410 posts)
26. Chain-smoking, draft-dodging, womanizing alcholic...
True American hero!
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Response to czarjak (Reply #26)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:01 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
27. A weak man's idea of a strong man
Like someone else we know.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:05 PM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
28. A terrible, terrible actor.
I never in my life was able to get through more than a few minutes of one his movies..
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:08 PM
Dawson Leery (19,326 posts)
29. Yellow draft dodging scum bag.
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:29 PM
YOHABLO (7,358 posts)
32. He wasn't at all a very good actor. In every picture he was just ''John Wayne''.
He was also an avid antique collector.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:33 AM
MFM008 (19,692 posts)
35. Stage coach
And the Cowboys.
The rest of his life was a waste. |
Response to MFM008 (Reply #35)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:15 AM
marble falls (47,684 posts)
42. The Quiet American.
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:49 AM
MosheFeingold (3,051 posts)
39. He'll never work in Hollywood again!
Sure, seriously a bigot. The man was born in 1907, and is a product of his times.
This is nothing compared to what I heard from my own ears coming out of LBJ’s mouth. Or pretty much everyone. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:27 AM
erpowers (9,269 posts)
41. Wasn't He a Cross Dresser
I heard that he was a cross dresser. I thought there were pictures of him dressed in women's clothing.
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Response to erpowers (Reply #41)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:18 AM
marble falls (47,684 posts)
43. You're thinking of Marie Dressler ...
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Response to erpowers (Reply #41)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:14 PM
magicarpet (12,859 posts)
46. Well cowboy grubs were not his only attire...
https://m.imgur.com/r/funny/en2RXmq Closer up.... John Wayne's camel foot crotch with a wonderful matching male purse.... https://goo.gl/images/21KmBM |
Response to erpowers (Reply #41)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:00 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
47. I thought was was his old friend J. Edgar
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:25 AM
Blue_Tires (55,445 posts)
44. I don't get it...
Did people out there not know this already?
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #44)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:05 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
48. Sure. But most people had forgotten, or never heard, about this interview.
Republicans, as you know, like to dog-whistle and tap dance around their often deep-seated hatred issues. They seldom admit it in as many words.
But that one time, the Duke put it all out there - unfiltered and un self-censored. Goes to show how much truth can come out when people get a few drinks in them. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:56 PM
Zorro (14,683 posts)
49. Curiously enough
all three of his wives were Latinas.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:07 PM
MicaelS (8,739 posts)
50. Why is this being brought up now?
The interview is 47 years old, and Wayne died 40 years ago. So what is the point?
Something is definitely going on, the question is what? |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:13 PM
BeckyDem (7,582 posts)
51. Idiot white man says"""""""""""""""""
what a shame, such a terrible bigot.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:20 PM
Hassler (2,697 posts)
52. It is no surprise that Wayne's biggest fans also love fellow racists, Putin and Chump.
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:31 PM
dameatball (7,099 posts)
53. I never was a giant John Wayne fan, but he had the benefit of some great cinematography
Such as "The Searchers." Never cared much for his war movies. "Green Berets" as prime example. I consider him a product of his times who took advantage of his on screen persona to elevate his career. Same as Ronald Raygun, although his movie career was not comparable to Marion's.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:15 PM
thucythucy (7,185 posts)
54. "The Green Berets" was horrible right wing pro-war apologist crap.
Last edited Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1) The plot was laughable, the dialogue stilted--the movie such a string of right wing toxic male clichés it even had Wayne walking into the sunset over the South China Sea, though of course Vietnam is to the WEST of that body of water!
A perfect example of style (of sorts) over substance, myth and fantasy as opposed to facts and critical thinking. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:10 PM
stopbush (24,127 posts)
55. I'm a lifelong D, and as much as I dislike Wayne's politics and his social stances
I have become quite a fan of his movies.
Sorry, DU. I refuse to be boxed in on this one. |
Response to stopbush (Reply #55)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:14 PM
sandensea (18,277 posts)
56. I hear you.
Never been a fan of the Duke's - but I've always liked Clint Eastwood's work.
I doubt Eastwood and I would agree on much; but I always look forward to any new film of his. |
Response to sandensea (Reply #56)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:20 PM
MicaelS (8,739 posts)
59. Agreed.
It takes a lot for me to not watch an actors work. This does not even come close.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:19 AM
Power 2 the People (2,437 posts)
57. Dalton Trumbo calling John Wayne out on his phony patriotism
Just like faux-patriot Ronald Reagan,John Wayne spent WWII in Culver City wearing makeup on a film set.
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