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riversedge

(70,051 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:49 PM May 2019

If only we had heard from Robert Mueller before William Barr's spin

If only....

Sigh!!



usatoday.com
If only we had heard from Robert Mueller before William Barr's spin



https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/05/29/robert-muellers-statement-clarifies-report-president-donald-trumps-wrongdoing-column/1276016001/


Joyce White Vance, Opinion contributor


Published 4:35 p.m. ET May 29, 2019 | Updated 5:53 p.m. ET May 29, 2019


Impeaching a U.S. president might not be the be all end all for their career. Not only can a president remain in office after impeachment, but even see higher approval ratings. We explain. Just the FAQs, USA TODAY

Robert Mueller's statement clarified the implications of his report, shifting the conversation back to President Donald Trump's criminal actions

Just two months ago, brand new Attorney General William Barr took to the podium at the Justice Department to share his “principal conclusions” about the Mueller report with the public. He told us there would be no further charges brought by the Special Counsel’s Office, that Robert Mueller had concluded he should not charge President Donald Trump with collusion or obstruction.

Subsequently a letter from Mueller to Barr — complaining that Barr’s comments did not “fully capture the context, nature and substance” of the Russia investigation — surfaced. Now we know that letter was more than just the snit from members of Mueller’s team that Barr tried to dismiss it as. Wednesday morning, Mueller made his own statement.

His remarks sounded like the comments Mueller wanted Barr to make when the report was first released.
Mueller's statement reframes the conversation

If Mueller’s statement Wednesday had been the public’s introduction to his report, the conversation about it would have been framed in a very different light, far more damaging to Trump than Barr’s were...........................................

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If only we had heard from Robert Mueller before William Barr's spin (Original Post) riversedge May 2019 OP
Please... Cary May 2019 #1
It also takes messaging Bradshaw3 May 2019 #2
Here's your message: Cary May 2019 #4
Well it requires more than that Bradshaw3 May 2019 #5
We outnumber them Cary May 2019 #6
We don't outnumber them without a message Bradshaw3 May 2019 #7
Except we do outnumber them Cary May 2019 #8
Outnumbering them hasn't led to winning Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #9
Yes, well documented effects of negativity Cary Jun 2019 #10
We just heard from him and he said jack. CentralMass May 2019 #3

Cary

(11,746 posts)
1. Please...
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:02 PM
May 2019

This just handwringing.

Nothing is going to stop this fucker other than the slow, steady march of WE, THE PEOPLE, walking over him. It takes time. It takes perseverance. It takes discipline.

It takes trust in our leaders and unrelenting support.

Bradshaw3

(7,484 posts)
2. It also takes messaging
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:28 PM
May 2019

It's not handwringing, it's called a narrative and many of those things you talk about don't happen on a large scale without that narrative.

Bradshaw3

(7,484 posts)
7. We don't outnumber them without a message
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:21 PM
May 2019

People don't vote without good messaging. Historical fact. Nothing is more obvious than that.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
8. Except we do outnumber them
Fri May 31, 2019, 11:21 PM
May 2019

That's a fact, and your logic fails because you ignore the well documented negative effects of negativity.

Bradshaw3

(7,484 posts)
9. Outnumbering them hasn't led to winning
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jun 2019

Repubs control the senate and the presidency, as well as all of state government in a large number of states. There is no logic or documentation in your bumper sticker platitudes.

And, "Well documented negative effects of negativity."?

Cary

(11,746 posts)
10. Yes, well documented effects of negativity
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jun 2019

As in discouraging people from voting. It works. That's why the Kochs and Russians spend billions of dollars on negative campaigns. It's also why the radical left thinks it can weasel its way into power by deploying scorched earth tactics.

It's all a big joke to you?

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