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Judi Lynn

(160,448 posts)
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 08:29 PM Jun 2019

Author kidnapped by Somali pirates absolutely destroys the integrity of Trump and DHS Sec Kirstjen N


Published 1 min ago on June 22, 2019
By Bob Brigham

Journalist Michael Scott Moore, who was held hostage by pirates for 32 months, offered a damning observation on American politics in the age of President Donald Trump.

In January of 2012, Moore was kidnapped in Galkayo, Somali and held until being liberated by Navy SEALs in September of 2014.

He published the memoir The Desert and the Sea : 977 Days Captive on the Somali Pirate Coast in 2018.

Moore posted a video of a Trump Department of Justice official attempting to justify not giving toothpaste or soap to children detained by the Department of Homeland Security under Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen.

“Somali pirates gave me toothpaste and soap,” Moore noted.

More:
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/author-kidnapped-by-somali-pirates-absolutely-destroys-the-integrity-of-trump-and-dhs-sec-kirstjen-nielsen/?utm_source=push_notifications
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Author kidnapped by Somali pirates absolutely destroys the integrity of Trump and DHS Sec Kirstjen N (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2019 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2019 #1
kick KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #2
Thank you, KentuckyWoman. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #28
K&R 2naSalit Jun 2019 #3
Kick! sheshe2 Jun 2019 #4
Kick democrank Jun 2019 #5
The Trump lawyer's name is Sarah Fabian sharedvalues Jun 2019 #6
Watching her Mira Jun 2019 #9
She's a lawyer.... reACTIONary Jun 2019 #19
Just ask "Hilary" what? eggplant Jun 2019 #21
Yeah that parts not clear at all. cstanleytech Jun 2019 #23
Hillary - my hero reACTIONary Jun 2019 #25
Ahhh, it might help in the future if you explain such things then in your posts. cstanleytech Jun 2019 #26
Will do (nt) reACTIONary Jun 2019 #27
Hillary - my hero reACTIONary Jun 2019 #24
Not true. She should have refused. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #30
As mentioned, she is a carrier official, and is not .... reACTIONary Jun 2019 #31
Check out this. She had a choice. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #32
Here is some reporting on the incident.... reACTIONary Jun 2019 #33
There are others more deserving: GOP Senate. Fox. Murdoch. Limbaugh sharedvalues Jun 2019 #34
Thanks for shedding more light on this monstrous lawyer. Back in July 2018 Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #10
Bet the dogs get soap once in a while klook Jun 2019 #14
Yeah, really sad. This administration treats dogs better Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #15
The dogs get regular baths and grooming. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2019 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author lunatica Jun 2019 #17
Thanks, sharedvalues. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #29
Boom goes the dynamite shanny Jun 2019 #7
They Walk Among Us NBachers Jun 2019 #8
I guess MAKE AMERICA At LEAST AS GREAT AS A BUNCH OF SOMALI PIRATES AGAIN..... zed nada Jun 2019 #11
Wow. Chemisse Jun 2019 #12
When is Nielsen going to be fired and behind bars? llmart Jun 2019 #13
She's resigned some time ago radical noodle Jun 2019 #20
recommended to publicize real Cannabis calm Jun 2019 #18
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jun 2019 #22

Mira

(22,380 posts)
9. Watching her
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jun 2019

gave me insight into what it means to hem and haw. A despicable performance of bought and paid for servitude. She did not manage an argument, and made me sick to the core.
She has not slept a wink since this performance. I'm certain of it. I believe in women in general. She is a sickening exception, solidifying the rule.

reACTIONary

(5,766 posts)
19. She's a lawyer....
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:02 PM
Jun 2019

.... Lawyers have an obligation to represent their clients regardless of how despicable they may be. Just ask Hilary.

Now maybe she believes what she is saying. But I doubt it. And I feel a bit sorry for her. (Just a bit.)

reACTIONary

(5,766 posts)
31. As mentioned, she is a carrier official, and is not ....
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 04:04 PM
Jun 2019

.... responsible for the policy. I don't think she should be vilified as if she were.

Career officials are responsible for advocating for the administration's policy choices without insinuating their own political views. This is part of the ethos of the career civil service. It is similar to the responsibility of trial lawyers to advocate for their client regardless of their personal judgement of their clients behavior or character. It is important to the integrity of the civil service.

If you want to denigrate someone for this policy, denigrate those who are responsible for it. She doesn't deserve it.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
34. There are others more deserving: GOP Senate. Fox. Murdoch. Limbaugh
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 08:32 AM
Jun 2019

But there is a time when all people should stand up against atrocity.
She didn’t design the policy. But she had a chance to make a stand. And she failed to do so.
Personal accountability is powerful and it’s worth using her name.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
10. Thanks for shedding more light on this monstrous lawyer. Back in July 2018
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:55 AM
Jun 2019
During the two-hour hearing, Sabraw asked Justice Department lawyer Sarah Fabian and a lawyer representing the American Civil Liberties Union about their availability over the weekend.

“We will do whatever. We will stay the weekend,” said the lawyer representing the ACLU, which successfully sued the Trump administration over its family-shattering practice last month.

Fabian said she had other obligations.

“I have dog-sitting responsibilities that require me to go back to Colorado but I will be back Monday,” she said, according to a transcript published by NBC News.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-trump-doj-extension-migrant-families-20180706-story.html

klook

(12,151 posts)
14. Bet the dogs get soap once in a while
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:49 AM
Jun 2019

and probably toothpaste — and are not separated from their families.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
15. Yeah, really sad. This administration treats dogs better
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:45 AM
Jun 2019

than children and literally argues just that.

16. The dogs get regular baths and grooming.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jun 2019

Too bad the same can't be said about the residents of the Trump Concentration Camps.

Response to sharedvalues (Reply #6)

zed nada

(60 posts)
11. I guess MAKE AMERICA At LEAST AS GREAT AS A BUNCH OF SOMALI PIRATES AGAIN.....
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:29 AM
Jun 2019

...would be too long to fit on a baseball cap.....

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