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(15,948 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:49 PM Sep 2019

Fox News, GOP media now warn of bloodshed if Democrats win in 2020

That's one way to try halt public debate in this country: by threatening mass violence and a bloody people's revolt in the streets. That's what conservative media voices, including those on Fox News, have done in recent days. Specifically, the reckless rhetoric has revolved around proposed new gun laws in the wake of America's latest string of mass shootings. Those are laws that would likely only be enacted if Democrats won the Senate and the White House in 2020.

If you take “people’s guns away from them, there’s going to be a lot of violence," The View’s Meghan McCain announced. "What you are calling for is civil war,” warned Fox News' Tucker Carlson. “What you are calling for is an incitement to violence." And that was just a sampling of the right-wing media hysteria last week.

These kinds of alerts about looming political violence if the opposition party wins power and passes laws in a democratic fashion represent the worst type of far-right insurrectionism. It's an ominous and long-held belief among conservatives and conservative media outlets that citizens need to be fully armed in order to one day wage war on the American government, as a kind of second American civil war. In other words, the reason the Second Amendment exists is not for self-defense, or to protect the rights of hunters and gun enthusiasts, but to enable citizens to go to war with the U.S. government, and to fend off a “tyrannical” turn at home.

"The core philosophy of the Three Percenter movement, whose adherents have engaged in violence, is that citizens would be justified in taking up arms to violently overthrow the government if the government enacted stronger gun regulations," Media Matters recently noted.


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Fox News, GOP media now warn of bloodshed if Democrats win in 2020 (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2019 OP
They said the same thing before Obama was elected. bitterross Sep 2019 #1
Connect the dots: no_hypocrisy Sep 2019 #2
Yup, mass violence is what the gun nutters want. Initech Sep 2019 #3
Sounds like terrorism to me. 2naSalit Sep 2019 #4
Some gun stats PSPS Sep 2019 #5
Truth be known.... safeinOhio Sep 2019 #6
And yet we don't see Trump following their lead. n/t Mister Ed Sep 2019 #12
He is using the issue to gain permanent power safeinOhio Sep 2019 #14
Gun nuts are going to shoot Democrats for saving wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #7
Maybe try Timewas Sep 2019 #8
JimBakker, guests predicting war. Guest RickJoyner calls for Chistian militia bobbieinok Sep 2019 #9
The NRA sounds panicky. eShirl Sep 2019 #10
F' them. CentralMass Sep 2019 #11
Sounds like a dog whistle to the gun nuts to shoot... nt mitch96 Sep 2019 #13
Exactly.They hope to trigger murderous rage from the criminally insane wingers,stay safe themselves. Judi Lynn Sep 2019 #16
Laughing The Bopper Sep 2019 #15


(4,066 posts)
1. They said the same thing before Obama was elected.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:57 PM
Sep 2019

Granted, Trump has ramped up the level of crazy since he was elected. However, I believe that the majority of the people who say such stuff are too lazy to get off their asses and go to war for real.

Sure, there are a bunch of militia idiots out there who would be more than happy to saddle up. I just don't see even Trump's supporters being able to field an army of any sort.

ON EDIT: All that said, I have no doubt Trump will inspire some sort of mass violence as he is forced out of the White House when he loses.


(47,206 posts)
2. Connect the dots:
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:00 PM
Sep 2019

1. NRA lobbies Congress to ensure gun control is not an issue.
2. NRA lobbies the public to buy more guns and weapons including military weapons.
3. Trump holds rallies for his adoring minions.
4. FOX News and Trump Media not only imply but explicitly threaten violence if he isn't allowed to be re-elected.
5. The violence is now possible by militias and disgruntled/disenfranchised MAGAts.

The guns were never meant for hunting or home protection. They are for insurrection to ensure that democracy dies by the hands of American citizens.

The encouraging factor is that they will fail. Unless Trump orders the military to stand down and let them riot.


(100,638 posts)
3. Yup, mass violence is what the gun nutters want.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:04 PM
Sep 2019

A 24/7 cycle of fear, hate and misinformation has brought this on. Who knows where it will end?


(13,794 posts)
5. Some gun stats
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:17 PM
Sep 2019

70-80% of the people in the USA do not own a gun
60% of people in the USA don't know anyone who owns a gun
Only about 10% of gun owners are members of the NRA

Of deaths from gunshot wounds:
Almost 70% are suicide
About 30% are one-on-one shootings
About 1% are mass shootings



(33,242 posts)
6. Truth be known....
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:28 PM
Sep 2019

Look at the leaders trump loves. Those countries need gun control to stop all opposition.


(33,242 posts)
14. He is using the issue to gain permanent power
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 07:40 AM
Sep 2019

and then he will take everyones guns away except for his Brown Shirts.


(12,858 posts)
9. JimBakker, guests predicting war. Guest RickJoyner calls for Chistian militia
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 11:47 PM
Sep 2019

Most in audience seem to be senior citizens. But they'll take message to home churches, kids, grandkids.

Finally time for a Holy War Crusade!

Joyner just recently called for his militia.

But Bakker has been 'prophesying attacks by liberals planning to wipe out Bakker and all 'true Christians'. So it's only reasonable that they prepare to defend themselves, right.

Judi Lynn

(161,466 posts)
16. Exactly.They hope to trigger murderous rage from the criminally insane wingers,stay safe themselves.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:52 AM
Sep 2019

I think they've been working on it a long time.

Here's a blast from the recent past:

01/09/2011 11:56 am ET Updated Dec 06, 2017

Sarah Palin’s PAC Puts Gun Sights On Democrats She’s Targeting In 2010
By Jeff Muskus

Sarah Palin is targeting — yes, with gun sights — House Democrats facing tough reelection fights who voted for health care reform.

Palin’s Facebook page now carries a map featuring 20 gun sights, one for each of the Democrats targeted this year by her political action committee SarahPAC. Three of the gun sights, those where incumbent Democrats have already announced their retirement, are colored red.

Likewise, Palin’s rhetoric is decidedly militant. “We’ll aim for these races and many others,” she wrote on her Facebook page. “This is just the first salvo in a fight to elect people across the nation who will bring common sense to Washington. Please go to sarahpac.com and join me in the fight.”


It doesn't leave too much to the imagination. If they can't win by lying, cheating, stealing, they'll turn to violence, of course.

The Bopper

(236 posts)
15. Laughing
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 03:30 PM
Sep 2019

You mean like the nitwits that were going to overthrow Obama. Or the nitwit truckers who were going to close down DC a few years back all 4 of them. These J.O.’s are the epitome of all big mouth bark (chihuahua like) and no bite. They’ll be so far in the rear that the guy with the bone spurs can’t see them without a telescope.

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