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Fri Sep 20, 2019, 05:44 PM Sep 2019

If Trump extorted a foreign leader for political gain, it's impeachment time

Until now, I have been willing to accede to the judgment of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to go slow on impeachment proceedings that are unpopular with voters and could imperil the Democratic majority. But if the new scandal involving President Trump and Ukraine is as bad as it seems — and that is, of course, a very big if at this early stage — the House will have no choice but to impeach, consequences be damned.

Already, since the release of the Mueller report and the waning of the impeachment threat (despite damning evidence of obstruction of justice), Trump has become more brazen in flouting the law. In August, he expressed interest in holding the Group of Seven summit at his own Doral resort in Florida — a violation of the Constitution’s emoluments clause — and he allegedly told aides that he would pardon them if they broke the law to build his border wall. Charles Fried, solicitor general in the Reagan administration, observes that promising a pardon to induce illegality “is the essence of tyranny and lawlessness.” In September, Trump invoked a bogus claim of executive privilege to limit the congressional testimony of former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, and he still refuses to comply with lawful requests for his financial records — most recently from the district attorney in Manhattan.

But all this is small change compared with what could be the next big scandal. On Wednesday, The Post reported that an intelligence community whistleblower had lodged a report alleging that Trump had made an improper “promise” to a foreign leader. This complaint was considered so troubling by a Trump-appointed inspector general that he asked that the acting director of national intelligence, Joseph Maguire, immediately forward the complaint to Congress, but Maguire refused to do so, reportedly on the advice of William Barr’s Justice Department. Then on Thursday night, The Post reported that the complaint centers on Ukraine.

We don’t know yet precisely what this means. But the most likely explanation is that this is a reference to a July 25 call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.


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If Trump extorted a foreign leader for political gain, it's impeachment time (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2019 OP
Consequences be damned?! That plays the into trump's hand real well. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #1
she's not going to do anything Skittles Sep 2019 #2


(4,516 posts)
1. Consequences be damned?! That plays the into trump's hand real well.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 05:58 PM
Sep 2019

Factual witnesses, factual witnesses, factual witnesses we need factual witnesses.

It is a good thing Pelosi is Speaker.

Suppose we announce impeachment hearings and no one comes to testify?

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