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RainCaster

(10,853 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 01:52 PM Nov 2019

Verdict- Go Big, Democrats: Attempts to Rig Elections Are Not the Only Impeachable Offenses

This is an op-ed piece in the Verdict, written by Neil H. Buchanan

This legal scholar posts some very wise arguments for the "take no prisoners" approach to impeachment. Read the entire article- it's short and worth the time.

The Strategic Case for Minimalism Does Not Ultimately Hold Up
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It might be possible that one article of impeachment can be stripped down to the very minimum for Democrats to defend, but that will then leave them open to the claim from Republicans that there is not enough substance to the case against Trump to remove him from office. “This is all you have? That’s nuthin’—and certainly not enough to end a presidency!”

In the end, the Democrats might be talking themselves into a strategy that leaves them without a “simple and clean” case even as they opt not to pursue the strongest possible case against Donald Trump. As so often happens, focusing on the clever public relations-friendly approach might well be a fools’ errand that would have catastrophic consequences.
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The Substantive Case for Minimalism Is Irresponsible and Wrong
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This, not to pull any punches, is simply bonkers. Before exploring why, I will note that The Times’s editors did make the good point that the Democrats had no choice but to pursue impeachment once it became clear that Trump was trying to rig next year’s election. If impeachment is for nothing else, they point out, it must be used in situations in which the President is committing impeachable offenses that stop him from being held accountable by voters.

Fair enough, but impeachment is not “for nothing else.” Impeachable offenses – treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors – should not simply be tolerated until the next election so long as that election will be fair. What if the President commits treason or accepts bribes but does not rig an election? And what if he shows every indication that he will keep committing those offenses – and also that he will begin to pardon all of his partners in crime?
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Verdict- Go Big, Democrats: Attempts to Rig Elections Are Not the Only Impeachable Offenses (Original Post) RainCaster Nov 2019 OP
I wonder if there is a criteria that only 1 impeachment attempt can be made...why not... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #1
Plus so many things are related. gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #2
I agree. My limited courtroom experience showed me that the "kitchen sink approach" lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #3

SWBTATTReg

(22,097 posts)
1. I wonder if there is a criteria that only 1 impeachment attempt can be made...why not...
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 02:06 PM
Nov 2019

multiple attempts. If one impeachment round doesn't make it, there seems to be no language in the Constitution or articles prohibiting multiple attempts, is there?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. I agree. My limited courtroom experience showed me that the "kitchen sink approach"
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 02:27 PM
Nov 2019

is the wisest. I brought a ton of evidence, some of it exculpatory, some of it simply technical. I ended up being completely surprised at the one thing that got my case dismissed.

(just a traffic ticket, by the way)

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